Copenhagen climate summit: 1,200 limos, 140 private planes...

[Zebo]

I think I'll burn some tires in my back yard in tribute to climate summit. To bad it's raining right now and I'm our of magnesium flares. Gas works.

 

[PJABBER]

Not really. It comes back to the same argument of 'if you think taxes should be higher why don't you just start paying more yourself?', and it's equally fallacious. Global warming is a collective action problem and wide scale policy changes are needed, not fewer limos used by heads of state. Changing their method of transportation wouldn't do a single thing, and so to argue that heads of state should take meaningless action to show their commitment to science is silly.

A use of the equivalent of 60 nations of carbon based energy consumption as well as the letting of the equivalent in by product is not insignificant. And that does not include the vast amount of non-acid free paper product that will result. Maybe we can recycle the paper into a more appropriate use for the toilet, but still.

I can see the time coming where I will have to kill the family cow to make up for this flatulence.

 

[CycloWizard]

My electric bill is about $40 a month and I split that with a roommate. Time to light up the night!

So it's not a big deal to live it up when there is no impending crisis? Gotcha.

 

[BoberFett]

Not really. It comes back to the same argument of 'if you think taxes should be higher why don't you just start paying more yourself?', and it's equally fallacious. Global warming is a collective action problem and wide scale policy changes are needed, not fewer limos used by heads of state. Changing their method of transportation wouldn't do a single thing, and so to argue that heads of state should take meaningless action to show their commitment to science is silly.

If their choice of vehicle doesn't matter then neither does mine.

What happens when everyone thinks that way?

You're the worst kind of apologist. One who believe his own lie.

 

[fskimospy]

So it's not a big deal to live it up when there is no impending crisis? Gotcha.

It was a joke.

 

[Patranus]

Not really. It comes back to the same argument of 'if you think taxes should be higher why don't you just start paying more yourself?', and it's equally fallacious. Global warming is a collective action problem and wide scale policy changes are needed, not fewer limos used by heads of state. Changing their method of transportation wouldn't do a single thing, and so to argue that heads of state should take meaningless action to show their commitment to science is silly.

Um. The laws more than allow you to pay more taxes if you think they should be higher. You are more then welcome to do so. So do it.

Except liberals are inherently hypocrites because they are all for redistribution of wealth as long as it isn't their money.

 

[PJABBER]

It was a joke.

Some some people don't think this is such a good joke. They wonder why they are being asked to sacrifice so that the guys in top hats and girdles get to party on their dime. The reactions are notable.

Doug Giles posted a response to the latest shenanigans being put upon us by the Holy Church of Anthropogenic Global Warming. He is a man of God and is not taking this usurpation lightly.

1. I am going to go outside by my pool and spray two full 32oz cans of Aqua Net right at the ozone.

2. I am going to use a gas powered scooter to go from room to room in my house, which will have all the outside doors open wide while the A/C is blowing full blast.

3. I am going to buy a ‘69 GTO with no exhaust system and let it idle for 4 hours a day in my driveway every day until Jesus returns.

4. I am going to fart as much as possible.

5. Speaking of farting, I am going to feed my cows bean dip and only bean dip.

6. I am going to set my thermostat on 85 in the winter and 55 in the summer.

7. I am going to use all my curly cue fluorescent light bulbs for clay pigeons—and not clean up the mess.

8. I am going to air up my tires on my ‘69 Goat so much that it looks like a frickin’ Macy’s Parade float.

9. When I go grizzly bear hunting in Alaska this spring I am going to add a polar bear to my license and take one of those as well.

10. While in Alaska I will take a blowtorch to a glacier to get my drinking water.

11. In addition, I am going to throw snowballs at seals. It won’t hurt them, but they will understand that the game is back on.

12. And finally, I am going to make certain my girls have Horner’s book "Red Hot Lies" and Milloy’s book "Green Hell" so that when their profs and goofy friends open their mouths on behalf global warming they can go Stone Cold Steve Austin on them with the cold, hard facts.

Sounds reasonable to me.

 

[fskimospy]

Um. The laws more than allow you to pay more taxes if you think they should be higher. You are more then welcome to do so. So do it.

Except liberals are inherently hypocrites because they are all for redistribution of wealth as long as it isn't their money.

Yes they do. My point was that choosing to have one person pay higher taxes themselves was a moronic idea, just like what people were saying here. It's also comparable to having someone who supports war with Iran go grab a rifle and personally invade the country without any help. They are all collective action problems.

Not the brightest bulb I see.

 

[Patranus]

Yes they do. My point was that choosing to have one person pay higher taxes themselves was a moronic idea, just like what people were saying here. It's also comparable to having someone who supports war with Iran go grab a rifle and personally invade the country without any help. They are all collective action problems.

Not the brightest bulb I see.

Well, because of liberals and the income tax, 47% of Americans pay zero federal income taxes so essentially there is a collective action problem, paying for your fair share.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Yes they do. My point was that choosing to have one person pay higher taxes themselves was a moronic idea, just like what people were saying here. It's also comparable to having someone who supports war with Iran go grab a rifle and personally invade the country without any help. They are all collective action problems.

Not the brightest bulb I see.

No leading by example? Hmm... here's a hint, if you think it's a good idea for the "collective" good of our citizen and since it is possible for you to take action on your own(unlike your asinine suggestion about Iran) then why aren't you doing it? Why wait for the gov't to force you to?

 

[Corn]

No leading by example? Hmm... here's a hint, if you think it's a good idea for the "collective" good of our citizen and since it is possible for you to take action on your own(unlike your asinine suggestion about Iran) then why aren't you doing it? Why wait for the gov't to force you to?

We know the answer Cad: I'd bet that he's betting that he won't be affected by any tax increase -- hopefully funded by Richie Rich.

Eskimospy doesn't believe in collective taxation, he believes in selective taxation.

Millions of people donate billions of dollars to charity without being forced to at gunpoint--I'm sure there are even a few liberals donating into that pot. Let the lefties lead by example, maybe then I'll follow. It ain't gonna happen, and instead I'd rather donate my extra time and money to more worthwhile causes than our irresponsible federal government.

 

[ebaycj]

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT !!!!!!!

We got this far in this thread without ANYONE here mentioning this gem (Did ANY of you actually read the article?) :

And this being Scandinavia, even the prostitutes are doing their bit for the planet. Outraged by a council postcard urging delegates to "be sustainable, don't buy sex," the local sex workers' union – they have unions here – has announced that all its 1,400 members will give free intercourse to anyone with a climate conference delegate's pass. The term "carbon dating" just took on an entirely new meaning.

(In this case)
UNION FTW!!!
(also)
SCANDINAVIAN WOMEN FTW!!!!

 

[ebaycj]

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[PJABBER]

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT !!!!!!!

We got this far in this thread without ANYONE here mentioning this gem (Did ANY of you actually read the article?) :
(In this case)
UNION FTW!!!
(also)
SCANDINAVIAN WOMEN FTW!!!!

That pretty much guaranteed full attendance right there. I can't comment about the quality of the prostitutes, many of which I believe are actually imports from places outside of Scandinavia.

IMHO the women in Denmark are among the most beautiful in the world. Very feminine but also not given to taking the usual shite you see in pubs. Of course, being gorgeous they are also somewhat tetched in the head along with not being much impressed by non-Danes. It might take 6-10 beers to break them out of their melancholy. (Don't axe me how I know that!) ;-)

Knowing how some of them think about the whole AGW religion, I would expect at least a few guys away from their wives, à la Tiger Woods, will get lucky, but not many. And only if they are still standing after the requisite ten or more beers in Nyhaven, where the weekends start on Wednesday. Yup, just about the time the jet lag is wearing off for the delegates the real partying will get going.

 

[blackangst1]

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT !!!!!!!

We got this far in this thread without ANYONE here mentioning this gem (Did ANY of you actually read the article?) :


(In this case)
UNION FTW!!!
(also)
SCANDINAVIAN WOMEN FTW!!!!

Yah Im surprised it took the third page to realize they get free hookers too

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091205/tod-prostitutes-to-offer-free-sex-to-un-7f81b96.html

 

[drebo]

Well, because of liberals and the income tax, 47% of Americans pay zero federal income taxes so essentially there is a collective action problem, paying for your fair share.

It might surprise you to note that the federal income tax is unconstitutional, anyway.

The existense of a tax on income implies that the government is entitled to seize your property.

 

[sandorski]

This summit should have been done as a video conference to set an example...sounds more like the lords of the earth dividing the pie.

Ya, this is an idea that should become common place. It's not like we lack the technology these days.

 

[Zebo]

Opening video of Climate summit. Talk about your propaganda! Submit your monies and will or the girl gets it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OIPYUlHv38&feature=player_embedded#

OMG we're all gonna die!!!

 

[FerrelGeek]

Yah Im surprised it took the third page to realize they get free hookers too

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20091205/tod-prostitutes-to-offer-free-sex-to-un-7f81b96.html

I hear Tiger was a last minute delegate.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Yes they do. My point was that choosing to have one person pay higher taxes themselves was a moronic idea, just like what people were saying here. It's also comparable to having someone who supports war with Iran go grab a rifle and personally invade the country without any help. They are all collective action problems.

Not the brightest bulb I see.

Change starts one person at a time. You and the rest of the guilt-ridden libs can go back to the good old days of 70% (or so) marginal tax rates. The guilty libs don't think the poor have enough, fine. That collection of hand-wringers can give 90% of their money away and still live like kings; let's see them do it. But no, they have to live on their exalted perch so that they can better govern the new serf-class that they would see created.

You have to be poor; freeze in the winter and bake in the summer. I must remain comfortable to watch over you.

You must have second-rate health coverage. But I must have the best so that I can watch over you.

You must not have guns lest you hurt yourself. But I shall have my bodyguards to defend me so that I may watch over you.

You should not have the means to travel lest you pollute mother earth. But I must be allowed to travel the world to enrich myself so that I may better watch over you.

You must eat lettuce and pasta to promote good health. But I must eat steak so that I have the strength to watch over you.

You must not have evil cigars or fine Scotch. But I must have these indulgences because I must rejuvenate myself by partying because watching over you is so stressful.

Screw you!

 

[zmatt]

change starts one person at a time. You and the rest of the guilt-ridden libs can go back to the good old days of 70% (or so) marginal tax rates. The guilty libs don't think the poor have enough, fine. That collection of hand-wringers can give 90% of their money away and still live like kings; let's see them do it. But no, they have to live on their exalted perch so that they can better govern the new serf-class that they would see created.

You have to be poor; freeze in the winter and bake in the summer. I must remain comfortable to watch over you.

You must have second-rate health coverage. But i must have the best so that i can watch over you.

You must not have guns lest you hurt yourself. But i shall have my bodyguards to defend me so that i may watch over you.

You should not have the means to travel lest you pollute mother earth. But i must be allowed to travel the world to enrich myself so that i may better watch over you.

You must eat lettuce and pasta to promote good health. But i must eat steak so that i have the strength to watch over you.

You must not have evil cigars or fine scotch. But i must have these indulgences because i must rejuvenate myself by partying because watching over you is so stressful.

screw you!

qft!

 

[wiretap]

I upgraded to a car that gets roughly half the miles per gallon as my last. After this winter I'm getting a full turbo back cat-less exhaust with a vent-to-atmosphere wastegate dump.

 

[PJABBER]

I just bought a beautiful black Jeep Rubicon. I've been letting the kids drive it anywhere they want to, for as long as they want to, while I continue to post on P&N and burn the midnight oil.

What I really need to do is take a flight to Copenhagen, spend some time in the Nyhaven bars and fly back to DC.

But my wife is angry with Tiger Woods and demanding that she go along. As she likes to pick fights with liberals after a few drinks I will be staying home for Christmas.

;-)

 

[boomerang]

So, if we give hundreds of billions to poor nations, our climate will be saved? The earth will continue to support life as we know it?

What will those nations do with the money?

 

[Robor]

Some some people don't think this is such a good joke. They wonder why they are being asked to sacrifice so that the guys in top hats and girdles get to party on their dime. The reactions are notable.

Using your 'logic' GWB and Cheney should be in Iraq. I'm all for it by the way. :thumbsup:

Doug Giles posted a response to the latest shenanigans being put upon us by the Holy Church of Anthropogenic Global Warming. He is a man of God and is not taking this usurpation lightly.

Sounds reasonable to me.

Oh look, another right wing nut job trying to paint climate change as a religion.