Cop charged with murder after shooting

[Subyman]

mizzou is actually cooking up some sympathy for the officer? I thought maybe he had a limit, but it doesn't seem so.

 

[soundforbjt]

Heard on CNN, Scott was shot four times in the back and one shot to the ear.

 

[BoberFett]

What we need, I hate to say, is video of a likely Republican voter getting shot by a cop 8 times in the back like this. Then the systematic change we'll see right quick is cops too afraid to leave their police stations.

I'm disappointed by you Vic.

 

[JSt0rm]

I'm disappointed by you Vic.

its kind of true. Look at that rancher. Word got out that the cops had a dog bark at them protesters and a swarm of yeehaw showed up with guns and horses. The cops backed away.

Cops only want easy kills. They go into all the servers labeled noobs only.

 

[BoberFett]

its kind of true. Look at that rancher. Word got out that the cops had a dog bark at them protesters and a swarm of yeehaw showed up with guns and horses. The cops backed away.

Cops only want easy kills. They go into all the servers labeled noobs only.

What's true? Your statement has nothing to do with Vic's position.

Vic believes the lack of action is due to Fox News viewers. That's simply a stupid thing to say unless he's just trying to stir up partisan bullshit.

Second, he thinks that if a Republican gets shot that will have those "Faux News viewers" up in arms. Unless he knows the political affiliation of everyone who was gunned down by the cops, that's another stupid things to say. I'm sure plenty of those white people shot by cops were idiot rednecks. Hell, just watch an episode of Cops and see all the hillbilly white trash the cops deal with. I'm betting those aren't Democrats.

As someone pointed out, strictly by the numbers more white people get killed by the cops than black people. The difference is that white people don't react with a ridiculous "That could have my son!" campaign.

That rancher and the nutty militia types aside, how often do you see white people protesting the death of some random white person? I'd bet that at this point white people are more likely to protest black police victims than white ones.

Vic used to be more even handed, but he seems to have given in to the partisan stupidity.

 

[master_shake_]

*drivel*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BOG4p1-H2Q&list=PL1F772BFE6A01C523

 

[Pipeline 1010]

In fact in virtually every single case, if people would just listen to police when told to do something, like put the gun down, stop resisting when trying to be arrested they would be alive.

In every single case, if the cops would just decide to not kill people, their victims would still be alive.

The following mindset cherished and adored by you and your coworkers is the issue: failure to obey enough = death sentence.

 

[jhbball]

What's true? Your statement has nothing to do with Vic's position.

Vic believes the lack of action is due to Fox News viewers. That's simply a stupid thing to say unless he's just trying to stir up partisan bullshit.

Second, he thinks that if a Republican gets shot that will have those "Faux News viewers" up in arms. Unless he knows the political affiliation of everyone who was gunned down by the cops, that's another stupid things to say. I'm sure plenty of those white people shot by cops were idiot rednecks. Hell, just watch an episode of Cops and see all the hillbilly white trash the cops deal with. I'm betting those aren't Democrats.

As someone pointed out, strictly by the numbers more white people get killed by the cops than black people. The difference is that white people don't react with a ridiculous "That could have my son!" campaign.

That rancher and the nutty militia types aside, how often do you see white people protesting the death of some random white person? I'd bet that at this point white people are more likely to protest black police victims than white ones.

Vic used to be more even handed, but he seems to have given in to the partisan stupidity.

If YOU aren't even-handed, why do you care if others are?

 

[Dari]

What we need, I hate to say, is video of a likely Republican voter getting shot by a cop 8 times in the back like this. Then the systematic change we'll see right quick is cops too afraid to leave their police stations.

Sad but true. I hope it isn't me...

 

[Pipeline 1010]

mizzou is actually cooking up some sympathy for the officer? I thought maybe he had a limit, but it doesn't seem so.

Blue wall stands tall.

 

[Vic]

What's true? Your statement has nothing to do with Vic's position.

Vic believes the lack of action is due to Fox News viewers. That's simply a stupid thing to say unless he's just trying to stir up partisan bullshit.

Second, he thinks that if a Republican gets shot that. Unless he knows the political affiliation of everyone who was gunned down by the cops, that's another stupid things to say. I'm sure plenty of those white people shot by cops were idiot rednecks. Hell, just watch an episode of Cops and see all the hillbilly white trash the cops deal with. I'm betting those aren't Democrats.

As someone pointed out, strictly by the numbers more white people get killed by the cops than black people. The difference is that white people don't react with a ridiculous "That could have my son!" campaign.

That rancher and the nutty militia types aside, how often do you see white people protesting the death of some random white person? I'd bet that at this point white people are more likely to protest black police victims than white ones.

I'm curious then, how do you explain the continued inaction by the self-labelled 'small government' crowd to this ongoing abuse of government power?

My opinion, which you misstated horribly, is that the fear-based demographic don't believe it will ever happen to them, and only happens to others (insert arbitrary label here: blacks, protesters, criminals, illegals, etc) who probably deserved it.
So why should they care? Don't want to get shot by a cop, don't run from a cop, right?
But once they find out that the cops have been lying about why they've been shooting people, just like Slager did here, the situation will change dramatically.

 

[Fern]

This stuff about Fox news seems stupid to me; not even 1% of the US population watches it. And judging by posters here quite a few who do watch are Libs.

With such an incredibly small population nothing of substance could be achieved no matter how riled up you got them.
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Otherwise, horrible killing. This is an example that justifies outrage, unlike most others the Left has latched onto in the past.

Fern

 

[MongGrel]

Still kinda gets me they charge him with murder, which I would say is correct, and they still have people staging protests against the police.

Seems a bit odd on that account, but I guess they going for the attention on the news coverage there I suppose.

 

[irishScott]

Still kinda gets me they charge him with murder, which I would say is correct, and they still have people staging protests against the police.

Seems a bit odd on that account, but I guess they going for the attention on the news coverage there I suppose.

The protesters number about 50, and apparently they're saying it's about more than just this one cop, it's about Mike Brown and other black people shot by police. So they're more "getting their message out" than "protesting".

In fact the dead guy's family has openly praised the police and local government for their reaction to the shooting, rightfully so IMO. Mayor seems to be a good guy.

 

[JSt0rm]

yeah that local government seems to be with it.

 

[BoberFett]

I'm curious then, how do you explain the continued inaction by the self-labelled 'small government' crowd to this ongoing abuse of government power?

My opinion, which you misstated horribly, is that the fear-based demographic don't believe it will ever happen to them, and only happens to others (insert arbitrary label here: blacks, protesters, criminals, illegals, etc) who probably deserved it.
So why should they care? Don't want to get shot by a cop, don't run from a cop, right?
But once they find out that the cops have been lying about why they've been shooting people, just like Slager did here, the situation will change dramatically.

We've been hearing for years that Republicans are a shrinking minority, there are far more Democrats in the US, and it's only through evils like gerrymandering that the Republicans stay in office.

Why haven't all those Democrats fixed law enforcement? Maybe because it has nothing to do with Fox News or Republicans or whatever other bogeyman you can conjure up.

You're becoming a sad partisan shill Vic, I didn't think I'd ever see that.

 

[BoberFett]

This stuff about Fox news seems stupid to me; not even 1% of the US population watches it. And judging by posters here quite a few who do watch are Libs.

With such an incredibly small population nothing of substance could be achieved no matter how riled up you got them.
---------------

Otherwise, horrible killing. This is an example that justifies outrage, unlike most others the Left has latched onto in the past.

Fern

Truth.

But hey, Faux Rage is a hit with the left wing crowd. Maybe we can pin this on the Koch brothers too?

 

[irishScott]

In every single case, if the cops would just decide to not kill people, their victims would still be alive.

The following mindset cherished and adored by you and your coworkers is the issue: failure to obey enough = death sentence.

Lol. The following mindset cherished and adored by those who resist cops: If I attack or otherwise provoke the man with a gun and legal power things will work out better!

Not excusing the cops by any means, but just because the cop's a murderer doesn't mean the victim isn't an temper-tantrum-throwing idiot.

 

[Venix]

Crawford again was waving a very realistic gun around. It was in fact a BB gun. The media kept saying that it was a "toy" yet I bet if anyone looks at that gun and a real one from 30 feet away they couldn't tell in a split second when a decision had to be made if it was real. Media kept on saying toy and white cop shooting a black cop. He was told to put it down and did not. He instead kept it in the air and attempted to leave. Trying to say that the shooting was a murder is idiotic. All he had to do was put the gun down, explain it was from the store, and he would have walked away.

Incorrect on all points. The video and 911 audio show what really happened:

• Crawford is standing in the pet food section of the store talking on his phone while playing with the air rifle.
• The police arrive about five minutes later and approach him from behind, using a cat litter display for concealment.
• At this point, Crawford is holding the rifle by its stock with the muzzle facing the ground, slowly swinging it front to back.
• The police do not identify themselves. Crawford does not see them. One of the officers makes contact by yelling, "Get down," "Put it down," or some variant.
• Crawford turns to the left to look at the police.
• ~1.2 seconds after yelling, one of the officers shoots him twice.
• Crawford collapses and dies.

People can legitimately debate whether the shooting was murder. What's not up for debate is that the narrative you presented above is blatantly false. You should be embarrassed.

 

[touchstone]

Why is there even any discussion? This should not be a liberal/conservative issue.



This is cold blooded murder, with possible pre-meditation. The guy even has time to set up his shot, while the dude is running away incredibly slowly. He gave no directions, he just murdered that man, how can anybody here defend that? How can you say it's not a problem when we can all agree that had nobody been watching this cop would have gotten away with murder?


Please people, have some decency and stop defending these criminal cops.

 

[touchstone]

its kind of true. Look at that rancher. Word got out that the cops had a dog bark at them protesters and a swarm of yeehaw showed up with guns and horses. The cops backed away.

Cops only want easy kills. They go into all the servers labeled noobs only.

I never thought of this but you are totally spot on here. I think there is going to have to be some serious rioting, cops are going to have to die for this BS to end because some of these cops LIVE THE BRUTAL... their whole lives is caught up in psuedo-military adult playground called the police department, where he can fight his 'war' on us, the citizens. We are the enemy, we are the 'other'.


The fact that the guy was black was just icing on the cake, the cop was thrilled to have a poor person to kill, but black too?



He had hit the jackpot, and he would've gotten away with it too, if it hadn't have been for those meddling cellphone cameras.

 

[master_shake_]

Incorrect on all points. The video and 911 audio show what really happened:

• Crawford is standing in the pet food section of the store talking on his phone while playing with the air rifle.
• The police arrive about five minutes later and approach him from behind, using a cat litter display for concealment.
• At this point, Crawford is holding the rifle by its stock with the muzzle facing the ground, slowly swinging it front to back.
• The police do not identify themselves. Crawford does not see them. One of the officers makes contact by yelling, "Get down," "Put it down," or some variant.
• Crawford turns to the left to look at the police.
• ~1.2 seconds after yelling, one of the officers shoots him twice.
• Crawford collapses and dies.

People can legitimately debate whether the shooting was murder. What's not up for debate is that the narrative you presented above is blatantly false. You should be embarrassed.

forgot to mention "in an open carry state".

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Lol. The following mindset cherished and adored by those who resist cops: If I attack or otherwise provoke the man with a gun and legal power things will work out better!

Not excusing the cops by any means, but just because the cop's a murderer doesn't mean the victim isn't an temper-tantrum-throwing idiot.

I didn't see where I advocated that the victim is a well-mannered and scholarly gentleman. But if I HAD argued it, you would have just put me in my place, so there's that

 

[Ichinisan]

FNC showed this just now with no warning at all D:

A real life murder on TV with no warning?!

 

[Catriona]

In fact in virtually every single case, if people would just listen to police when told to do something, like put the gun down, stop resisting when trying to be arrested they would be alive. Even in this case, he had a warrant for arrest. He resisted and wrestled with the officer then ran away. He had a warrant, should have gone to jail and bonded out the next day. Alive and well. That is NOT saying the shoot was good, it by all means was not from the video. The officer should be punished to the full extent of the law. The facts are if people just fucking listen and don't try to run, fight, and drop the gun when told to they would be alive. It is not because they're black, it's pretty ignorant to make that claim. But you like to try to make that claim. Like these "victims" did nothing wrong.

So let me see if I understand you. As long as we do exactly what a cop says, no matter how irrational or irrelevant it is, we'll be just fine. Isn't that a police state?