"Convert or die!" What would you do?

[Blue_Max]

Even if they let me live (which is very doubtful) after "converting", paying the jizya tax, and running like hell before they caught me again - I'd never get my foreskin back.

I'll tell ya... it's getting disturbing hearing "convert or die" right here in our North American cities though. More and more.

 

[AstroGuardian]

It really doesn`t matter to these people if Atheism is or is not a religion....
If they know you are atheist and they will trust me..they will just kill you...why?

Because if you convert they will know you are being phony!!

Haha LOL. True that, cause i could never act so ________ as believers do.

 

[disappoint]

Can't wait till all religions make apostasy punishable by death in their holy books. Because they all think it! They may not be stupid enough to say it, but they all think it!

Burn in hell for all eternity because you don't believe what I do!
Death to people who don't share our beliefs anymore!
God will punish all non believers @ armageddon! LOL!

Can you guess which religionnuts those 3 belong to?

And do you know WHY they have these dangerous/sick/twisted/insane/psychopathic/bloodthirsty/insert your favorite term here thoughts?

Because the subconscious doesn't know the difference between reality and fantasy. That's why! And now you know...maybe.

 

[sandorski]

Can't wait till all religions make apostasy punishable by death in their holy books. Because they all think it! They may not be stupid enough to say it, but they all think it!

Burn in hell for all eternity because you don't believe what I do!
Death to people who don't share our beliefs anymore!
God will punish all non believers @ armageddon! LOL!

Can you guess which religionnuts those 3 belong to?

And do you know WHY they have these dangerous/sick/twisted/insane/psychopathic/bloodthirsty/insert your favorite term here thoughts?

Because the subconscious doesn't know the difference between reality and fantasy. That's why! And now you know...maybe.

Indeed. The difference between Modern Day Islam and Modern Day Christianity is little more than how much Political Power each has in the nations they dominate.

Make a Christian Theocracy and it will quickly turn into something akin to Iran or possibly worse. It really doesn't matter what the actual words in the "Holy" book are, although admittedly the Koran is much more clear about using Physical force as part of its' Religious practice, when the Principles within the book are presented as having extreme consequences. If one truly believes that x will lead to negative consequence y(Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Disease seems to be popular), then all kinds of extreme actions can be justified regardless of what the book says. As history and even pockets of current Africa show.

 

[Blue_Max]

Catholicism is like that (as a system) protestants are not - which is why they came to exist in the first place.

 

[Sattern]

I'd probably end up leaving that country if I lived there.

I see many Muslims transferring their citizenship over to move out West because of the conflicts that are occurring right now.

 

[Rezist]

Don't worry they'll be saying the same things in USA pretty soon.

 

[Topweasel]

That, and he and others like him still act like they don't understand that atheism is not a religion. I don't know if they are sincere in their continued misunderstanding, but it makes for a really poor argument on their part.

To someone who's agnostic and not wanting to belittle other peoples beliefs, yeah Atheists come off as a "religion". Might not have a church that you go to once a week (if you did, it would probably be Tuesday). But the way a lot of people treat "believers" out there and try to berate and demean other peoples beliefs. Atheists can be just as unaccepting and arrogant as any other religion. It's still one of the "one true beliefs".

 

[disappoint]

Berating goofy thoughts helps to keep people sane. Well as sane as they can be given the circumstances. It's different than berating people, or worse, calling for their deaths.

Unlike some organized religions, atheists don't call for the elimination of people, just their insane thoughts.

 

[Topweasel]

Berating goofy thoughts helps to keep people sane. Well as sane as they can be given the circumstances. It's different than berating people, or worse, calling for their deaths.

Unlike some organized religions, atheists don't call for the elimination of people, just their insane thoughts.

Not every religion is violence prone. Many Eastern religions are very non confrontational when it comes to non-believers. A lot more tolerant than Atheists display from time to time. And they may not call for their deaths. But decent portion of the Atheist crowd does berate people referring to their level of intelligence for believing in mysticism among the examples.

 

[Blue_Max]

Not every religion is violence prone. Many Eastern religions are very non confrontational when it comes to non-believers. A lot more tolerant than Atheists display from time to time. And they may not call for their deaths. But decent portion of the Atheist crowd does berate people referring to their level of intelligence for believing in mysticism among the examples.

Nicely said. Very often extremely rude, and hurling personal insults. Not exactly a great way to spread ANY message! (Of course, "XXX OR DIE!!" carries a lot of weight too...)

...just ask the Syreen!

...our current bad-guys will never be content until the spread of Juffo-Wup is complete.
"Juffo-Wup is All... omni-existent, spreading and changing the Non into Juffo-Wup. You are the Non, who must become Juffo-Wup or Void."
"Acceptable new worlds are a priority for the rapid and complete spread of Juffo-Wup."
"When Juffo-Wup is complete, when, at last, there is no Void or Non, when the Creators return, then we can finally rest."


...sounds familiar.

 

[disappoint]

I don't think you 2 have any idea what you're dealing with.

All I heard from you is woo woo woo woo.

Let's try a little thought experiment.

1. We're going to put you in a fenced in jungle with no laws.
2. There will be 100 other people with you that know the terrain and have simple melee weapons like knives, spears. They can be either atheists or theists.
3. I'm going to do my best to convince them that you are evil. That you're the devil.

Now which one would you stand a better chance of survival with? The atheists or the theists?

 

[Craig234]

I don't think you 2 have any idea what you're dealing with.

All I heard from you is woo woo woo woo.

Let's try a little thought experiment.

1. We're going to put you in a fenced in jungle with no laws.
2. There will be 100 other people with you that know the terrain and have simple melee weapons like knives, spears. They can be either atheists or theists.
3. I'm going to do my best to convince them that you are evil. That you're the devil.

Now which one would you stand a better chance of survival with? The atheists or the theists?

It's hard to say.

The atheists: they have plenty of idea of 'evil', which can be secular. Some support capital punishment, some don't, Some are more 'rational', some less. It could go either way.

Religious people are also diverse. Sometimes they can want to kill evil people, on the other hand all religions teach against murder and many oppose capital punishment. 'Love your enemy'. 'Turn the other cheek'. Some are bigots, some are not, There are many types of religious people. It could go either way.

Most Muslims - who you have singled out before - I've found to be especially gentle people. A small number are violent.

 

[inachu]

I would just tell them the truth so the entire team of ISIS would just leave me alone.

Funny how people just love the truth until it injures them and gives them bad face to the public. Then they get angry. Even more angry when they find your truth is greater than theirs and they get even more angrier then a small subset of people become sad to see they supported the wrong side for the wrong reason when they follow the root of the argument started in the 1960's back when even Osama Bin Laden wore western style clothing and Iranian women were wearing real Bikinis.

Oh! What truth is that? Ha! A western style govt used to be in Iran. Now why would the CIA screw up a country based on western ideologies when their cities were prosperous and such? Sure you can blame the CIA but that argument is too simplistic. Goes deeper than that. Take the issue from all sides then you would see we are supporting the wrong side.

NO!!!! I am not saying we should support ISIS. if you thought that then you have a low IQ.

I am saying we should stop supporting any and all of islam and totally stop supporting Israel as well.

The moment we started taking sides was when America lost its moral footing on the world as a whole. Only war hawks and eternal war end time cults would support an idea based on death=peace and war=peace. What sick mind thought that up? Yeah thats right...... NEOCONS.

 

[disappoint]

I would just tell them the truth so the entire team of ISIS would just leave me alone.

Yes that'll work because religious people have a great track record of seeking the truth and are well grounded in reality. They require evidence to believe what they do. So I'm going to have a tough time convincing them you're evil right?

You know those same religious folks that believe in transubstantiation, that is that if you speak a few Latin words over a wafer it magically transforms into the flesh of a carpenter that lived thousands of years ago but is somehow also magically completely undetectable by science. Because scientists are too stupid to figure out the difference between a wafer and human flesh.

That same carpenter who performed miracles to help humanity through it's troubles. By turning water into wine. Turning something essential for life: water, into an alcoholic beverage. An alcoholic beverage that causes liver damage, brain damage, both short and long term. So turning that which is essential for life into something that destroys life. Because the trouble with humanity was that there weren't enough drunks running around back then.

THAT'S the miracle he chose? That's the miracle everyone celebrates and talks about that was so great?

Those are the thought processes you want to celebrate?

I'll celebrate them too, for a different reason. Because they are funny, that's why. If they weren't also so dangerous, I'd really have a good laugh.

 

[JTsyo]

Convert, then join ISIS. Then be a mole for the US and collect all that sweet reward money.

 

[IronWing]

Convert, then join ISIS. Then be a mole for the US and collect all that sweet reward money.

Or get a drone strike up your butt.

 

[GoPackGo]

Would you rather be shot or beheaded?

 

[inachu]

When you can defeat any jew or muslim with logic to heighten their fervor because you dismantle the false lies they have been told since birth then more than likely they would not force convert you.

FACT 1. Classic Arab/Jewish text(1,000 years old) agree that Allah and God are one and the same.
FACT 2. Todays modern Jesuits still claim they are the ones who introduced a new muslim faith to counteract the jewish faith because possible jealous of one people having something over another who do not. Jesuits are called crypto jews. Jesuits modus operandi are to go to any catholic schools and point their goals in a new direction to mislead and such. Who knows maybe mohammad is the #1 decoption in human history if true what is said about the jesuits.

 

[TeeJay1952]

When you can defeat any jew or muslim with logic to heighten their fervor because you dismantle the false lies they have been told since birth then more than likely they would not force convert you.

FACT 1. Classic Arab/Jewish text(1,000 years old) agree that Allah and God are one and the same.
FACT 2. Todays modern Jesuits still claim they are the ones who introduced a new muslim faith to counteract the jewish faith because possible jealous of one people having something over another who do not. Jesuits are called crypto jews. Jesuits modus operandi are to go to any catholic schools and point their goals in a new direction to mislead and such. Who knows maybe mohammad is the #1 decoption in human history if true what is said about the jesuits.

People holding knives at other peoples throats are rarely logical. Loved your facts. Thought they were cute.

 

[inachu]

Yes that'll work because religious people have a great track record of seeking the truth and are well grounded in reality. They require evidence to believe what they do. So I'm going to have a tough time convincing them you're evil right?

You know those same religious folks that believe in transubstantiation, that is that if you speak a few Latin words over a wafer it magically transforms into the flesh of a carpenter that lived thousands of years ago but is somehow also magically completely undetectable by science. Because scientists are too stupid to figure out the difference between a wafer and human flesh.

That same carpenter who performed miracles to help humanity through it's troubles. By turning water into wine. Turning something essential for life: water, into an alcoholic beverage. An alcoholic beverage that causes liver damage, brain damage, both short and long term. So turning that which is essential for life into something that destroys life. Because the trouble with humanity was that there weren't enough drunks running around back then.

THAT'S the miracle he chose? That's the miracle everyone celebrates and talks about that was so great?

Those are the thought processes you want to celebrate?

I'll celebrate them too, for a different reason. Because they are funny, that's why. If they weren't also so dangerous, I'd really have a good laugh.

The catholic faith was actually the merger of 2 religions into one.

THe mother and her child is one of the cults and has its own page on the internet. If you can not find It then I'll find it for ya. I read it a few weeks ago.

But of all the religions I do surmise that religion is for the weak minded.
Not saying I am atheist but I've spoken to quite a few of them as well.

Point is it is better to follow logic.

 

[AstroGuardian]

I believe you are speaking to one now.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Or get a drone strike up your butt.

LOLed at this.

 

[MrColin]

So says ISIS in Northern Iraq.


This question applies to all people here including non-religious people who do not believe in God. Well, all people except for any Sunni Muslims here (go to hell!)

So would you be a martyr for your faith?

Would you convert and accept Islam?

Would you convert then convert back to your previous religion when the time is right and safe?

If you are an Atheist would you lie that you are of a certain religion then convert but secretly you will be living the lie until its safe.

As an Atheist would you say that you are non religious and probably get a bullet in the head on the spot?

Mass killings can be achieved expensively with overwhelming force at the push of a button but if you are looking to harvest the wealth of another community through genocide, it takes some finesse. You must first break their spirits and herd them to their end like cattle. Forced prayer or conversion is one tactic, rape is pretty popular too. Firsthand accounts of various exterminations like the inquisitions, centuries of witch hunting, the Jewish holocaust, communists in Indonesia, show that when the exterminators become experienced, they use psychological abuse to keep things running smoothly.

Personally, I think a forced conversion followed by a quick beheading sounds pretty gentle compared to weeks of torture followed by burning alive at the stake, which Christians have done to about 8 million people over the centuries.

Stories like these are also circulated to inflame the CBD and mobilize individuals to become exterminators themselves.

 

[MongGrel]

How are Atheist's even an issue.

They are the ones walking around without any cohesive group wondering why religions are as fucked up as they are.

It's not a coordinated group doing anything, just people that wonder why religious people are nuts.