Contagion spreading among the vaccinated

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I NEVER, NEVER said the vaccines are useless. NEVER, and for you to suggest that is quite crazy. What the hell is wrong with you guys?

There is no direct quote of you saying the vaccine is useless, but post after post saying it isn't useful. You downplay the usefulness of vaccines by claiming (erroneously I might add) their effectiveness is low and everybody will get COVID anyway. The implication is that they are unnecessary. That's how useful idiots like you dance around being anti-vax.

You didn't answer the question. Are you vaccinated? If not, get vaccinated and shut the fuck up.
 
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eikelbijter

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There is no direct quote of you saying the vaccine is useless, but post after post saying it isn't useful. You downplay the usefulness of vaccines by claiming (erroneously I might add) their effectiveness is low and everybody will get COVID anyway. The implication is that they are unnecessary. That's how useful idiots like you dance around being anti-vax.

You didn't answer the question. Are you vaccinated? If not, get vaccinated and shut the fuck up.
Classy! I'm not implying they're unnecessary, quite the opposite, but your response is par for the course. Reading comprehension FAIL.... this is crazy.
 

VW MAN

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That's none of your business and not pertinent to this conversation.
So in other words nope (until you say otherwise), but boy oh boy the grand standing and arm waiving and shouting from the roof tops with deliberate half truths and many not so nice implications along with the almost complete discounting of people who have questioned your statements and motives must go on and not be questioned.

Just stfu and get vaxed and come back when you are ready to discuss and learn and share things like a mature adult. Until then you'll just be considered by many here to be nothing but another clown with nothing of relevance to say.
 
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So in other words nope (until you say otherwise), but boy oh boy the grand standing and arm waiving and shouting from the roof tops with deliberate half truths and many not so nice implications along with the almost complete discounting of people who have questioned your statements and motives must go on and not be questioned.

Just stfu and get vaxed and come back when you are ready to discuss and learn and share things like a mature adult. Until then you'll just be considered by many here to be nothing but another clown with nothing of relevance to say.
Wow, your wise words are awe inspiring....
 

VW MAN

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Wow, your wise words are awe inspiring....
Good...maybe you do have the ability to learn...i highly doubt it because most of the clowns here don't, and you seem more similar to them then not.

And yes I know your post is 100% sarcastic and 100% dismissive, but for posterity sake Im pushing the whole maybe you can learn, but not holding my breath thing ;)
 

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Did you read it? It certainly doesn't say that vaccines offer better immunity, it just doesn't. As a matter of fact, it says exactly what I said, that the immune response is measurably different.
Yes I read it, that’s why I linked it to you. The article says the immunity it offers is different, yes, and then mentions how this might lead to immunity from vaccination that is superior to immunity from infection, the thing you said was impossible.
 
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Pohemi

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Again with the name calling. Classy.....
You get what you ask for and deserve here when you constantly contradict yourself and dance around in the tulips, refusing to answer direct questions with anything understandable.

Okay, clown? Alrighty then. Now fuck off.
 

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Yes I read it, that’s why I linked it to you. The article says the immunity it offers is different, yes, and then mentions how this might lead to immunity from vaccination that is superior to immunity from infection, the thing you said was impossible.
I said CATEGORICALLY better. Again, reading comprehension my friends. Look it up if you don't know what it means.
 
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You get what you ask for and deserve here when you constantly contradict yourself and dance around in the tulips, refusing to answer direct questions with anything understandable.

Okay, clown? Alrighty then. Now fuck off.
I have answered every question directly except whether I got this vaccine, which is not pertinent to the discussion. I'm not going to discuss my medical situation with you guys any more than I wanna hear about yours. We're talking about policy and expectations here.
 
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Good...maybe you do have the ability to learn...i highly doubt it because most of the clowns here don't, and you seem more similar to them then not.

And yes I know your post is 100% sarcastic and 100% dismissive, but for posterity sake Im pushing the whole maybe you can learn, but not holding my breath thing ;)
"more similar THEN"? Is that how wise men spell that? LOL
 

fskimospy

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I said CATEGORICALLY better. Again, reading comprehension my friends. Look it up if you don't know what it means.
An immunity that is equally effective against the original strain and more effective against variants is categorically better.

This is the second time you’ve tried to tell me to learn about something only for it to turn out I’m right.
 
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VW MAN

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"grammer"? Are you not American?
Does that matter, clown?

Edited to add - it probably does, things like that always matter to the clowns. Regardless of how i were to answer. But you know, the worlds needs clowns. It gives the rest of us something to laugh hysterically at! And I for one hopes this particular clown keeps frothing at the mouth while flailing his arms around widely, it is most amusing to watch!
 
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eikelbijter

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Does that matter, clown?
It's pretty rich when you're lecturing someone else and you spell like someone who hasn't finished high school. So yes, if you weren't a native English speaker it WOULD matter.

Anyway, the relentless name calling gives away your true nature.
 

eikelbijter

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An immunity that is equally effective against the original strain and more effective against variants is categorically better.

This is the second time you’ve tried to tell me to learn about something only for it to turn out I’m right.
Except it doesn't SAY that, it says it MIGHT be better against SOME variants, which is exactly what every study I've read so far on the subject says. Not a single one DARES to make the point it's categorically better, not even close. Details matter!
 
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Except it doesn't SAY that, it says it MIGHT be better against SOME variants, which is exactly what every study I've read so far on the subject says. Not a single one DARES to make the point it's categorically better, not even close. Details matter!
Details do matter, and you said there was no way such a thing was possible and they clearly believe such a thing is possible.

You were wrong here again and you should just be mature enough to admit it.
 

VW MAN

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It's pretty rich when you're lecturing someone else and you spell like someone who hasn't finished high school. So yes, if you weren't a native English speaker it WOULD matter.

Anyway, the relentless name calling gives away your true nature.
Relentless name calling hahahahaha...look at this fucking clown who comes in here with his clownish act start crying because he is called a clown. Would it be better if I were to call you a moron? Idiot? Useful idiot? If your posts didn't deserve to be called out for what they are, nobody would call you much of anything. There are several highly respected persons who have commented on your posts in this thread who I (or others) haven't called a clown. But, me and others have called you a clown...wonder why we did that? Perhaps look in a mirror and read all your posts here aloud and the corresponding replies to you. I bet you'd see a clown too.

Now kindly fuck off clown!
 
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sportage

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Up Trump's ass governor Kim Reynolds of iOwa, often making national news for her incompetence, is at it again. During the height of pandemic Reynolds made up this goofy map of state counties within iOwa, colored as "zones". Reynolds would not impose the wearing of masks "until" a county had exceeded the danger zone. Never before the danger zone, never as the county was reaching the danger zone, but only "after" the damage had been done. Like getting hit by a car and not rushed to the hospital until your heart stopped beating. A little too late, ya think?

Reynolds is at it again. While iOwa in total remains fairly low on the new infections scale, the individual counties are reaching the red zone with increasing variant infections yet once again Reynolds decides "to wait". Opposing any mask mandate or the very suggestion of masks, which should be imposed immediately if iOwa wishes to remain on the low end scale, but no.... Reynolds poo-poo's the wearing of masks idea despite new CDC recommendations. And once again, just as before during the height of the pandemic, Reynolds will wait until the patient is near death before the suggesting of masks.

Hey people out there.... where ever you live.... how about moving to iOwa and running for governor against this ass-wipe of a governor Kim Reynolds or as she is better know to iOwans.... COVID KIM. A Trumpie thru and thru.
 

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"More importantly, the data provide further documentation that those who’ve had and recovered from a COVID-19 infection still stand to benefit from getting vaccinated."

That statement, taken from the linked article, is a way of saying vaccinations are categorically better than immunity gained from infection.
 
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"More importantly, the data provide further documentation that those who’ve had and recovered from a COVID-19 infection still stand to benefit from getting vaccinated."

That statement, taken from the linked article, is a way of saying vaccinations are categorically better than immunity gained from infection.
But they didn’t use the specific word “categorically” so it’s a meaningless statement .

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