Conservatives: Why are you anti-science?

[silverpig]

Republicans against science.

 

[sandorski]

Last I looked, Europe and North America are part of the "western" world, and Asia (including Japan) is the "eastern" world.

I might not have a degree in geography, and I might not be too good at it, but I do know that much.

Sorry, but it's usage, in current and recent History includes Japan. Modern Political use of "Western"

Not that it matters anyway as the distinction between Japan/Europe on this subject reeks of desperation to begin with.

 

[sandorski]

Nonsense. If you believe in global warming then nuclear power is the way to go until we can really develop wide-spread solar power, which is a ways off. There are no mutants roaming the streets of Japan because of their Earthquake. Don't try to act like you're some official voice of scientific policy. You're not.

NIMBY, that's what prevents it most and not for unfounded Reasons. Nuclear is *not* the only option either.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Sorry, but it's usage, in current and recent History includes Japan. Modern Political use of "Western"

Not that it matters anyway as the distinction between Japan/Europe on this subject reeks of desperation to begin with.

OK so I was wrong about that, I was using the classical definition of it.

You know, instead of some canned one-word response that doesn't do any good at all, you could have provided the information in the first place

NIMBY, that's what prevents it most and not for unfounded Reasons. Nuclear is *not* the only option either.

OK so give some examples of other options please. Reliable, consistent options.

 

[JSt0rm]

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was the REPUBLICAN President George Bush who got the NCLB program established with both Houses of Congress under Repub majority control at the time.

another fail for the repugs and again they blame liberals. Amazing.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Do you thinking dumbing down our nation, not funding public schools, disregarding the tireless efforts of thousands of scientists is going to put this country in the best position it can be going forward?

It's probably not so much that they are anti-science as much as that they are religious zealots. Evolution contradicts their religious beliefs, therefore they oppose the teaching of Evolution. Also, the notion that humans can change the planet's climate contradicts the authority and supremacy of God, therefore it must be false.

From a philosophical standpoint they are anti-science because their theory of knowledge is that faith and feelings are a proper way of gaining knowledge of reality. In contrast, science is based on sensory perceptions and reason.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's probably not so much that they are anti-science as much as that they are religious zealots. Evolution contradicts their religious beliefs, therefore they oppose the teaching of Evolution. Also, the notion that humans can change the planet's climate contradicts the authority and supremacy of God, therefore it must be false.

From a philosophical standpoint they are anti-science because their theory of knowledge is that faith and feelings are a proper way of gaining knowledge of reality. In contrast, science is based on sensory perceptions and reason.

In other words they are brainwashed bigots.

 

[zsdersw]

I sent both of my kids to a NON-Christian private school and that school is one of the top rated in the State.

It isn't about religion. It's about private schools compared with public schools. Specifically, the NCLB Program has had a major effect on public schools and how their classes are taught, vs. private schools that are not required to abide by the conditions of that program. The public schools are teaching their kids to pass the test required by NCLB, which regrettably, somewhat hinders the fast learners and those students on track to acquire a college education. The public schools are rated on an aggregate scale, meaning, ALL students test scores are piled in and averaged out. What this does is force the teachers to slow things down to give the slow learners a better chance at passing the test. Public schools with large immigrant populations that have difficulty with speaking/reading english are hardest hit, with no exceptions made for that disparity, thus penalizing those schools and making it even harder for those schools to teach the way they were meant to.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was the REPUBLICAN President George Bush who got the NCLB program established with both Houses of Congress under Repub majority control at the time.

Yes, it's all about the difference between schools that cannot deny admission and enrollment and schools that can.

If you're of a certain race, religion, or have special needs your private school options in any given community are much narrower than your public school options.

 

[beginner99]

Do you thinking dumbing down our nation, not funding public schools, disregarding the tireless efforts of thousands of scientists is going to put this country in the best position it can be going forward?

Do you think our children will be able to compete with the rest of the world if we continue to degrade their education by forcing them to learn about Creationism, intelligent design, instead of real scientific facts?

Explain yourselves. And for those that say you're not anti-science, if you've voted for Republicans in the last decade your opinion is automatically discarded IMHO.

You got it. the problem is Creationism and religion in general which for me are synonyms for stupidity.

"when one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." - Robert Pirsig

 

[charrison]

You forgot?

Yes we can leave out Chernobyl, That was a very bad design to begin with and was being operating outside of design conditions.

 

[zsdersw]

Yes we can leave out Chernobyl, That was a very bad design to begin with and was being operating outside of design conditions.

... and, most (if not all) of the reactors of the RBMK design that are still in use have been improved to be a lot safer than Chernobyl's ever was.

 

[Ausm]

Democrats are just as every bit anti science as republicans are. They only choose science when it fits what they want.


As someone who deeply respect science, I find the climate change battle completely disgusting as it more about politics than money. Solutions are rejected because they are not the ones the left wants.

The most ridiculous comment I have seen on this forum since Spidey's posts.

 

[nick1985]

I love science.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

That's odd....I'm a conservative and love science too. Go figure.

 

[nick1985]

That's odd....I'm a conservative and love science too. Go figure.

The OP has a pretty wide brush.

 

[piasabird]

Dont you think people can learn about a wide range of subjects? If science is so important why do we also study Art and music? People study what gives them meaning and what they think they can get a job in. There are an awful lot of science majors with advance degrees that can not get a job in the field that they studied.

What science degree are your children studying? Tell us about oh enlightened ones???

My son is studying Physics with a minor in Computer Science.

 

[zsdersw]

That's odd....I'm a conservative and love science too. Go figure.

Even when it disproves or makes dubious some of your long-held beliefs?

 

[JockoJohnson]

Nonsense. If you believe in global warming then nuclear power is the way to go until we can really develop wide-spread solar power, which is a ways off. There are no mutants roaming the streets of Japan because of their Earthquake. Don't try to act like you're some official voice of scientific policy. You're not.

I don't know. Apparently some Japanese turtles were in the sewers near the nuke plant during the tsunami--and now this is what became of them:

I could have found other mutations that occurred but all others were NSFW or even this board in general.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Even when it disproves or makes dubious some of your long-held beliefs?

And which long-held beliefs are those?

 

[Schadenfroh]

I'm not against science. I accept the synthetic theory of human evolution (with punctuated equilibrium). I believe that we are experiencing climate change. I also want to expand stem cell research.

But, I also want to:
*Vaccinate children
*Build modern nuclear reactors to generate the bulk of our energy
*Expand GMO R&D
*Fund NASA with an emphasis on manned space exploration
*Replace "natural" plants and animals with genetically modified versions if they increase efficiency and are safe in the food industry
*Expand modern agricultural techniques at the expense of "traditional" or "organic" farming
*Combat "witch doctor" medicine (alternative medicine) via regulation and public education (if not scientifically proven to be effective)
*Educate the public on the dangers and inefficiency of organic, locally grown produce
*Eliminate animal-rights in regards to scientific experimentation
*Combat "snake oil" herbs / supplements / remedies that are not scientifically proven to do what they claim via regulation and public education

I wonder how many "liberals" disagree with the last part.

 

[piasabird]

The climate has always been changing ever since I was born, and a long time before then, Duh, Duh, Duh . . . .

So what?

 

[Ausm]

The climate has always been changing ever since I was born, and a long time before then, Duh, Duh, Duh . . . .

So what?

Brilliant conclusion

 

[SparkyJJO]

*Educate the public on the dangers and inefficiency of organic, locally grown produce

*Combat "snake oil" herbs / supplements / remedies that are not scientifically proven to do what they claim via regulation and public education

What is so dangerous about locally grown produce? And why do you want to put government regulation on stuff that really does not need regulated? Not like some supplements are going to do any harm to anyone. Well, maybe if you ingest the whole bottle all at once but that's just common sense to not do something stupid like that

 

[QuantumPion]

The super-religious, real anti-science wing of the republican party is a tiny minority. Just like the liberals that cancel high school science and math classes because they are heavily populated by whites and asians as opposed to blacks and latinos. Making everyone equally stupid is right up liberals' alley I guess.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

The super-religious, real anti-science wing of the republican party is a tiny minority. Just like the liberals that cancel high school science and math classes because they are heavily populated by whites and asians as opposed to blacks and latinos. Making everyone equally stupid is right up liberals' alley I guess.

Perhaps we need to start a thread titled "Liberals: Why are you anti-science?"...perhaps that would help the intellectually challenged here to catch a glimpse of just how moronic partisan hacks can be.