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Conservative Self-Reliance

Newell Steamer

Newell Steamer

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http://www.inquisitr.com/1777070/jo...tors-family-took-460000-in-taxpayer-handouts/

she declared that because her family learned to “live within our means,” the federal government should “do the same.”
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But the District Sentinel investigation showed that Ernst’s own father, Richard Culver, received $38,395 in taxpayer handouts, almost all of which went to corn subsidies. The Iowa senator’s uncle, Dallas Culver, made out even better, soaking up almost $370,000 in federal agriculture subsidies.

The total subsidies enjoyed by members of Joni Ersnt’s family came in upwards of $460,000.
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This $$$ went to her uncle and father,.. so, it must be totes OK.
 
HomerJS said:
Not surprised. For her response speech Ernst should have turned around and used her ass to talk.
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I also love the Inception quality depth of this latest example of conservative hypocrisy:
1) Whine about how everyone needs to be self-reliant
2) But it turns out, the family of this Righthadist is sucking on the government teet,.. by taking government subsidies,...
3) ,... to not grown a crop (aka, not work), in order to maintain market pricing of said crop at a higher price

Lots of gubnament involvement, right there.

Letting the market dictate the pricing, earning the money the government gives you and being self reliant,.. all out the window.
 
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The real question is whether or not she'd be in favor of ending the subsidy by which she and her family benefited.
 
I've always had to live within my means. I, nor any one I know who is conservative, have never received a subsidy on anything....so your point is what exactly?? I've always had to live within my means.
 
Ronstang said:
I've always had to live within my means. I, nor any one I know who is conservative, have never received a subsidy on anything....so your point is what exactly?? I've always had to live within my means.
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The point is she's a huge hypocrite, just like the Tea Party military wife in the other thread.
 
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Ronstang said:
I've always had to live within my means. I, nor any one I know who is conservative, have never received a subsidy on anything....so your point is what exactly?? I've always had to live within my means.
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You don't actually believe you've never gotten a subsidy on anything do you?
 
Atreus21 said:
The real question is whether or not she'd be in favor of ending the subsidy by which she and her family benefited.
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While I would agree that's very important, it's pretty telling that she doesn't even view huge amounts of cash being given to her family as a subsidy while she decries other forms of government welfare spending.
 
eskimospy said:
While I would agree that's very important, it's pretty telling that she doesn't even view huge amounts of cash being given to her family as a subsidy while she decries other forms of government welfare spending.
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Living near farm country it is rather amusing hearing farmers talk about the welfare state of the inner city and how it needs to be reduced.
 
Genx87 said:
Living near farm country it is rather amusing hearing farmers talk about the welfare state of the inner city and how it needs to be reduced.
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lol exactly.

Never mind the highways that give their trucker friend Bubba a job to haul their government subsidized product that they sell to us inner city people.
 
Atreus21 said:
The real question is whether or not she'd be in favor of ending the subsidy by which she and her family benefited.
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No it isn't. The real question is whether she will acknowledge that her family and by inference, herself, will never be able to, and would be unwilling to return to the government subsidies they received in the past as part of any plan to abolish such handouts. Give me a million dollars and I will campaign for ending such gifts. She stinks of hypocrisy.
 
Farmers aren't living the high life without working off of subsidies. To get $300k+ in subsidies we are talking about 1000's of acres of land, which is a multi-million dollar operation with a vast amount of equipment and infrastructure.

Much different than bums sitting at home collecting welfare.
 
So you are saying her hypocrisy makes a welfare state ok? Focusing on political hypocrisy gets you no where on addressing issues.
 
Subyman said:
Farmers aren't living the high life without working off of subsidies. To get $300k+ in subsidies we are talking about 1000's of acres of land, which is a multi-million dollar operation with a vast amount of equipment and infrastructure.

Much different than bums sitting at home collecting welfare.
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Do shed more information on these welfare bums that are living the high life. I might just dabble in poverty myself since you put it that way.
 
PricklyPete said:
So you are saying her hypocrisy makes a welfare state ok? Focusing on political hypocrisy gets you no where on addressing issues.
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As Genx brought up, it's more like a fundamental lack of understanding. They don't even seem to realize that they are the recipients of large government subsidies.

I mean I support the welfare state as a positive good regardless of her stance, but it's like the whole Craig T Nelson thing where he said "Nobody gave me a leg up and I made it. Hell, I was on food stamps!"
 
Subyman said:
Farmers aren't living the high life without working off of subsidies. To get $300k+ in subsidies we are talking about 1000's of acres of land, which is a multi-million dollar operation with a vast amount of equipment and infrastructure.

Much different than bums sitting at home collecting welfare.
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Major Major's father was a sober God-fearing man whose idea of a good joke was to lie about his age. He was a longlimbed farmer, a God-fearing, freedom-loving, law-abiding rugged individualist who held that federal aid to anyone but farmers was creeping socialism. He advocated thrift and hard work and disapproved of loose women who turned him down.

His specialty was alfalfa, and he made a good thing out of not growing any. The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow. The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn't earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce.

Major Major's father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa. On long winter evenings he remained indoors and did not mend harness, and he sprang out of bed at the crack of noon every day just to make certain that the chores would not be done. He invested in land wisely and soon was not growing more alfalfa than any other man in the county.

Neighbors sought him out for advice on all subjects, for he had made much money and was therefore wise. "As ye sow, so shall ye reap," he counseled one and all, and everyone said, "Amen."
 
Ronstang said:
I've always had to live within my means. I, nor any one I know who is conservative, have never received a subsidy on anything....so your point is what exactly?? I've always had to live within my means.
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Do you, or any conservatives you know, have children?
 
eskimospy said:
As Genx brought up, it's more like a fundamental lack of understanding. They don't even seem to realize that they are the recipients of large government subsidies.

I mean I support the welfare state as a positive good regardless of her stance, but it's like the whole Craig T Nelson thing where he said "Nobody gave me a leg up and I made it. Hell, I was on food stamps!"
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Yes, because a hypocritical politician is an absolute defense of a huge welfare state.
 
glenn1 said:
Yes, because a hypocritical politician is an absolute defense of a huge welfare state.
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You should read better. Our welfare state is good, although it should be larger.

Whether it is good or not has nothing to do with this lady's obliviousness. It is sort of sad for the people who elected her though, no?
 
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