Conservative Self-Reliance

[hal2kilo]

#breadbagshoes

I guess I should shout out to the world that I never had a lunch box and used used brown paper bags instead. God I 'm so proud of where I 've gotten to and how that very fact has shaped my whole outlook on life.:\

 

[dank69]

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My favorite:

Breadbags over shoes- to help you visualize the GOP Response story

 

[HomerJS]

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My favorite:

Wow dude can't afford good shoes but can afford raisin bread??

 

[dank69]

Wow dude can't afford good shoes but can afford raisin bread??

It's just like the guys who put $2200 rims on a $500 beater.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's just like the guys who put $2200 rims on a $500 beater.

Lol

 

[IronWing]

Dang, when I was a kid bread bags in our boots were a staple of late winter/early spring when the snow turned to slush to keep our socks dry. Didnt know it would a prop for political theater. I shoulda made a video of noble proto-ironwing stuffing my feet into the sandwich loaf wrappers (grandma lived high on the hog, she had Roman Meal bags).

 

[BurnItDwn]

Liars and idiots are liars and idiots.

There are hypocritical scumbags all over the place across every spectrum.

She shoudl be honest and say "We get government money, we want all of it, we do not want to share it, so you should not take any"

 

[dank69]

http://www.inquisitr.com/1777070/jo...tors-family-took-460000-in-taxpayer-handouts/





This $$$ went to her uncle and father,.. so, it must be totes OK.

Wha? Wha she do?

 

[Atreus21]

You don't actually believe you've never gotten a subsidy on anything do you?

In that case, is there anyway to criticize government subsidies and the welfare state without being a hypocrite?

 

[nickqt]

In that case, is there anyway to criticize government subsidies and the welfare state without being a hypocrite?

You can criticize the government for giving handouts to the wealthy while cutting handouts to the "deserving poor" without being a hypocrite.

 

[Jhhnn]

Farmers aren't living the high life without working off of subsidies. To get $300k+ in subsidies we are talking about 1000's of acres of land, which is a multi-million dollar operation with a vast amount of equipment and infrastructure.

Much different than bums sitting at home collecting welfare.

Yeh, it's rich bums sitting on a beach letting their managers take care of everything.

 

[glenn1]

If you're not going to repeal the subsidy, I don't really give a shit if it goes to a rich farmer or poor urban crack head. The "giving away taxpayer money to people we like" is your game, not mine.

 

[fskimospy]

In that case, is there anyway to criticize government subsidies and the welfare state without being a hypocrite?

Of course. There's nothing wrong with taking full advantage of the law as it is now while saying you think it should be changed.

There is something wrong about taking subsidies and pretending you aren't though.

 

[shira]

I've always had to live within my means. I, nor any one I know who is conservative, have never received a subsidy on anything....so your point is what exactly?? I've always had to live within my means.

Really? Neither you nor any of the conservatives you know get a tax deduction for interest on the mortgage on their homes? Neither you nor any of the conservatives you know get exemptions for every dependent? Neither you nor any of the conservatives you know get to exempt from taxation money put in reimbursement accounts for child-care and medical expenses?

There's absolutely no difference between - on the one hand - a subsidy check received from the government to help a person pay for a mortgage, childcare expenses, and health care exenses, and - on the other hand - a reduction in income tax equal to the same amount as that subsidy, where the reduction in income tax is based on mortgage interst and child-care expenses, and healh care expenses. No difference whatsoever.

 

[nickqt]

Really? You and none of the conservatives you know don't get a tax deduction for interest on the mortgage on their homes? You and none of the conservatives you know don't get exemptions for every dependent? You and none of the conservatives you know don't get to exempt from taxation money put in reimbursement accounts for child-care and medical expenses?

There's absolutely no difference between - on the one hand - a subsidy check received from the government to help a person pay for a mortgage, childcare expenses, and health care exenses, and - on the other hand - a reduction in income tax equal to the same amount as that subsidy, where the reduction in income tax is based on mortgage interst and child-care expenses, and healh care expenses. No difference whatsoever.

Subsidies have been so thoroughly demonized over the past 30+ years that many people assume that subsidies consist solely of welfare checks/food stamps/t-bone steaks and Cadillacs/big screen tvs, mailed out once a week.

Trying to convince someone that they've received a subsidy because of a tax deduction, or a tax credit, or, by having running water and a paved street will fly right over their heads.

 

[TreVader]

We should build a giant wall around the midwest and south and institute border controls to keep stupid people contained in their "zone". They are irrelevant to the economy at large and we can use them as a cheap labor source for doing things they can do (like castrate pigs). Why we even have "farmers" anymore when every single thing they do can be done by a robotic tractor and a wifi router, I will never know. If anybody is on "welfare" in this country, it's all the shitty conservative states that constantly run budget deficits and complain about the aid programs they exploit to prevent their uneducated and uninspired consituents from starving out of their own incompetence.

We will call it "Special America". They won't realize we are making fun of them and will think we think they're special.

I don't understand why, maybe it's all the fracking and water pollution, but there is some kind of brain damage going on in indiana to elect this woman and her ilk.

 

[Jhhnn]

We should build a giant wall around the midwest and south and institute border controls to keep stupid people contained in their "zone". They are irrelevant to the economy at large and we can use them as a cheap labor source for doing things they can do (like castrate pigs). Why we even have "farmers" anymore when every single thing they do can be done by a robotic tractor and a wifi router, I will never know. If anybody is on "welfare" in this country, it's all the shitty conservative states that constantly run budget deficits and complain about the aid programs they exploit to prevent their uneducated and uninspired consituents from starving out of their own incompetence.

We will call it "Special America". They won't realize we are making fun of them and will think we think they're special.

I don't understand why, maybe it's all the fracking and water pollution, but there is some kind of brain damage going on in indiana to elect this woman and her ilk.

They're Americans, like the rest of us. We need them & they need us. They've just been conditioned to fear change, to distrust, and to have self righteous blind spots. Their own best qualities are turned against their greater interests.

 

[soundforbjt]

We should build a giant wall around the midwest and south and institute border controls to keep stupid people contained in their "zone". They are irrelevant to the economy at large and we can use them as a cheap labor source for doing things they can do (like castrate pigs). Why we even have "farmers" anymore when every single thing they do can be done by a robotic tractor and a wifi router, I will never know. If anybody is on "welfare" in this country, it's all the shitty conservative states that constantly run budget deficits and complain about the aid programs they exploit to prevent their uneducated and uninspired consituents from starving out of their own incompetence.

We will call it "Special America". They won't realize we are making fun of them and will think we think they're special.

I don't understand why, maybe it's all the fracking and water pollution, but there is some kind of brain damage going on in indiana to elect this woman and her ilk.

She's from iOwa, not Indiana.

 

[TreVader]

She's from iOwa, not Indiana.

That website was awful. I'm not reading that article

Edit: in the future can people copy the article instead of forcing us to go to this awful site that makes chrome go nuts. It takes 5 clicks to copy and paste.

Newell Steamer great topic but I would appreciate it if next time you copied it into the post.

 

[Moonbeam]

We should build a giant wall around the midwest and south and institute border controls to keep stupid people contained in their "zone". They are irrelevant to the economy at large and we can use them as a cheap labor source for doing things they can do (like castrate pigs). Why we even have "farmers" anymore when every single thing they do can be done by a robotic tractor and a wifi router, I will never know. If anybody is on "welfare" in this country, it's all the shitty conservative states that constantly run budget deficits and complain about the aid programs they exploit to prevent their uneducated and uninspired consituents from starving out of their own incompetence.

We will call it "Special America". They won't realize we are making fun of them and will think we think they're special.

I don't understand why, maybe it's all the fracking and water pollution, but there is some kind of brain damage going on in indiana to elect this woman and her ilk.

You understand so little you should invest in a foot pedal garbage can and deposit your ideas there. You are just another kind of Special America, a conceited imbecile stuffed full of bigoted opinions. You are as arrogant as the worst conservative brain defectives.

 

[Moonbeam]

They're Americans, like the rest of us. We need them & they need us. They've just been conditioned to fear change, to distrust, and to have self righteous blind spots. Their own best qualities are turned against their greater interests.

:thumbsup:

 

[TreVader]

You understand so little you should invest in a foot pedal garbage can and deposit your ideas there. You are just another kind of Special America, a conceited imbecile stuffed full of bigoted opinions. You are as arrogant as the worst conservative brain defectives.

lol

I agree they are americans like you. Not so much like me.

 

[Moonbeam]

lol

I agree they are americans like you. Not so much like me.

You lack understanding and therefore compassion. Conservatives aren't the way they are because they chose to be, they had to be the way they are because they had to be that way to survive. They are conformists, wedded to an altered reality and they were forced as children to be that way. The other was despised and they had to become bigots to survive among other bigots. This is an ability that helped humanity survive when we were many competing tribes and others were a threat. This is still true in many places. Liberal thinking came late when we collected into larger groups. Liberal is suited to cities and the world of the future, but conservatives are more able to react to sudden dangers. You are spitting on people who have superior abilities to you in some areas. And your inability to see this makes you just like them, a reactionary, well let's just say jerk, as in knee jerk.

 

[boomerang]

We should build a giant wall around the midwest and south and institute border controls to keep stupid people contained in their "zone". They are irrelevant to the economy at large and we can use them as a cheap labor source for doing things they can do (like castrate pigs). Why we even have "farmers" anymore when every single thing they do can be done by a robotic tractor and a wifi router, I will never know. If anybody is on "welfare" in this country, it's all the shitty conservative states that constantly run budget deficits and complain about the aid programs they exploit to prevent their uneducated and uninspired consituents from starving out of their own incompetence.

We will call it "Special America". They won't realize we are making fun of them and will think we think they're special.

I don't understand why, maybe it's all the fracking and water pollution, but there is some kind of brain damage going on in indiana to elect this woman and her ilk.

With virtually every post you prove to us how special you are.

 

[Blanky]

Please have some compassion. Ultra poor republicans love to pretend that they are poor but doing it on all on their own. Pointing out all the ways the government is helping them upsets their sense of worth.