Conservative radio host on 'where the right went wrong'

[Blackjack200]

Thank goodness the left doesn't do anything like that. We might have people actually murdering cops, for instance.

I suggest you read some Ta-Nehisi Coates if you want to understand why police brutality provokes violence in response.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ear-certainty-of-anti-police-violence/490541/

My point was that false Republican narratives have led to real violence. Are you suggesting that discriminatory policing is a false narrative?

 

[MrSquished]

Yeah let's pretend for two seconds the green party took any significant votes away from Hillary. You can smoke screen it all you like with another storm of bullshit, but the fact stands. The left was more in lock step behind HC (with FAR fewer people calling her what she turned out to be: a shit choice of candidate) than the right was lock step for Trump and didn't call him the shit candidate that he was. And you STILL lost.


Confirmed idiot vs. strong suspect idiot.

You truly have zero clue about what you are talking about. Leftists were not in lock step with Hillary. Remember this thing called Bernie Sanders? He was the darling of the left. And he got a lot of votes and came up 300 delegates short - this was without receiving fair media coverage for a good part of the race. How the fuck you could have forgotten about Bernie Sanders is beyond me, and makes you an utter fool.

And yes, Stein voters count as leftists and she didn't have much support. But she got about 1% in the general in many areas that were important. In Michigan and Wisconsin that 1% would have given Hillary the win, and in PA it would have made it a virtual tie. Not to mention all the Bernie Bros who stayed home and didn't vote. That's far from being lock step. A lot of Bernie Bros did vote for Hillary in the general, but not enough. And many of them did so not because Hillary was such a great candidate to them, but to vote against Trump, who was an obvious anathema of a candidate.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your weird fantasy that the left was all in for Hillary.

 

[norseamd]

The Right went wrong with Nixon, and has been doubling down ever since.

 

[werepossum]

I suggest you read some Ta-Nehisi Coates if you want to understand why police brutality provokes violence in response.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ear-certainty-of-anti-police-violence/490541/

My point was that false Republican narratives have led to real violence. Are you suggesting that discriminatory policing is a false narrative?

As it's being sold, it's an extremely false narrative.

 

[Blackjack200]

Can you provide examples of the "extremely false narrative" you're referring to?

 

[werepossum]

Can you provide examples of the "extremely false narrative" you're referring to?

There have been many in these forums. For example, Mike Brown, the gentle giant, was shot in the back with his hands up. You cannot possibly have missed all the people here claiming that essentially, cops hunt and murder black men for sport, not to mention the people on television saying essentially the same thing.

 

[Jaskalas]

#BLM, originated on the lies of "hands up don't shoot", were obvious motivation for the Dallas Sniper.
In fact, it has been quite a deadly year for cops. Plenty of people with motivation ambushing them.

 

[werepossum]

#BLM, originated on the lies of "hands up don't shoot", were obvious motivation for the Dallas Sniper.
In fact, it has been quite a deadly year for cops. Plenty of people with motivation ambushing them.

Yep. And it's quite disturbing to see people brushing past the bodies of dozens of dead cops to point to three holes in a pizzeria and scream "See the violence?"

 

[Blackjack200]

BLM did not start after Ferguson, it started after George Zimmerman shot Treyvon Martin. It's not fueled by false narratives, it's fueled by the discriminatory policing, as documented by the DoJ after Ferguson. Dozens of dead cops? BLM started after Ferguson? The false narratives aren't coming from BLM, they're coming from you.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

BLM did not start after Ferguson, it started after George Zimmerman shot Treyvon Martin. It's not fueled by false narratives, it's fueled by the discriminatory policing, as documented by the DoJ after Ferguson. Dozens of dead cops? BLM started after Ferguson? The false narratives aren't coming from BLM, they're coming from you.

At least spell his name right, it's Trayvon and it was a legal shooting.

 

[norseamd]

Yep. And it's quite disturbing to see people brushing past the bodies of dozens of dead cops to point to three holes in a pizzeria and scream "See the violence?"

BLM isnt just built off the backs of individuals like Michael Brown and Treyvon Martin, 2 individuals in particular I think probably were not exactly innocent. There are plenty of real innocent black people like Eric Garner, Freddie Gray, Sandra Bland, and Philando Castile.

 

[raildogg]

BLM is part of the agenda to stir racial strife in the country. Just like these so-called white supremecist groups that are coming out are also part of the agenda.

They want the sheeple (99% of the population) to be a part of this plan. That's why CNN, Drudge, Fox News and MSNBC are always putting out race-related stories more and more. It's there to rile you up.

Remember, these stories have only been coming out recently while racist attacks have always happened. It's all part of the new game.

 

[werepossum]

BLM isnt just built off the backs of individuals like Michael Brown and Treyvon Martin, 2 individuals in particular I think probably were not exactly innocent. There are plenty of real innocent black people like Eric Garner, Freddie Gray, Sandra Bland, and Philando Castile.

That's true, and it's a good point. Not Sandra Bland - she showed her ass, got arrested, and then could not get a single person to accept her phone calls - not exactly a Sterling example of character - before killing herself. But Garner and Gray, I agree were horrible. But they were NOT racially motivated. Garner was being arrested for a totally bullshit SJW cause and resisted arrest. Gray was being arrested and ran. (News flash: White guys don't away with that shit either.) But you do make a good point.

Ferguson too is an example of government horribly abusing its citizens, just because it can. But the narrative being sold is that cops just murder black men at will and get away with it. THAT is a false narrative. And it's getting cops murdered.

And that will lead to more black men getting wrongfully killed.

 

[MrSquished]

You truly have zero clue about what you are talking about. Leftists were not in lock step with Hillary. Remember this thing called Bernie Sanders? He was the darling of the left. And he got a lot of votes and came up 300 delegates short - this was without receiving fair media coverage for a good part of the race. How the fuck you could have forgotten about Bernie Sanders is beyond me, and makes you an utter fool.

And yes, Stein voters count as leftists and she didn't have much support. But she got about 1% in the general in many areas that were important. In Michigan and Wisconsin that 1% would have given Hillary the win, and in PA it would have made it a virtual tie. Not to mention all the Bernie Bros who stayed home and didn't vote. That's far from being lock step. A lot of Bernie Bros did vote for Hillary in the general, but not enough. And many of them did so not because Hillary was such a great candidate to them, but to vote against Trump, who was an obvious anathema of a candidate.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your weird fantasy that the left was all in for Hillary.

to add to this guys idiocy

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...llary-fucking-ignored-us-in-swing-states.html

 

[Zaap]

You truly have zero clue about what you are talking about. Leftists were not in lock step with Hillary. Remember this thing called Bernie Sanders? He was the darling of the left. And he got a lot of votes and came up 300 delegates short - this was without receiving fair media coverage for a good part of the race. How the fuck you could have forgotten about Bernie Sanders is beyond me, and makes you an utter fool.

You're incredibly stupid. Sanders wasn't the candidate in the election, moron. Clinton was. Sanders got steamrolled because you idiots fell for the ruse that the presidency was Hillary's birthright. You might have stood a chance had the left actually been in lockstep behind Sanders or.. really, almost ANYONE but Her Highness!

You're pretty funny though, it's as if the reality of the ACTUAL election didn't happen in your silly little world.

Enjoy 4 years of Trump, chump!

 

[agent00f]

The media is owned by the rich and the rich have a priority to make money. I think you can trace media appeasement of the right to desire not to lose eyeballs for advertisement as the real source of the wish not to offend. It used to be we have just a few major broadcasters that competed on journalistic objectivity as a source to pull audience but not there are places like Fox Smooze that provide the conservative brain defect with a safe space. Today people have the option to watch cult media that is tailored to produce a community accepted place for lunatics. In this way all the worst of our nature can be view as righteous and dignified with the accompanying stimulus to magnify them. Schools also used to teach people the habit of thinking which develops the liberal qualities of the brain. The whole purpose of an educated mind is to be able to rationally judge data without personal bias. Rationalizations were exposed early on for what they are, lying to yourself. The number of enfeebled minds that post here with pride and glee is quite something to see. We have completely lost the art of self examination. All that matters is image and ego and Trump mastered that form. He is what everybody who is nobody wants to be. He's going to make us great again. Really, when was it the brow-beaten wage slaves were great? If you want to be great you have to be something other than brain dead and neither Trump nor the rich are't going to help anybody with that.

This is a good point but the fact still remains the new american 24hr media is trivial to manipulate. It's arguable by (evolutionary) "design" to fit the framework of a PR-based society, but it's simply the case that people with the means to pay for PR have been better at using it to their advantage. Trump's real genius is the way he learned to command headlines even without paying, by saying/doing outrageous crap they're compelled to cover AND resonates with his minions, eg "mexicans are rapists".

Also btw, the few major broadcasters didn't do what they used to for the news out of virtue or ratings, but per FCC agreement in exchange for spectrum rights.

 

[agent00f]

You're incredibly stupid. Sanders wasn't the candidate in the election, moron. Clinton was. Sanders got steamrolled because you idiots fell for the ruse that the presidency was Hillary's birthright. You might have stood a chance had the left actually been in lockstep behind Sanders or.. really, almost ANYONE but Her Highness!

You're pretty funny though, it's as if the reality of the ACTUAL election didn't happen in your silly little world.

Enjoy 4 years of Trump, chump!

Quite hilarious when dumbshit was only just berating liberals for being too leftist, then berates them for supporting the centrist instead. There's no level of dumbshittery he won't sink to.

 

[MrSquished]

You're incredibly stupid. Sanders wasn't the candidate in the election, moron. Clinton was. Sanders got steamrolled because you idiots fell for the ruse that the presidency was Hillary's birthright. You might have stood a chance had the left actually been in lockstep behind Sanders or.. really, almost ANYONE but Her Highness!

You're pretty funny though, it's as if the reality of the ACTUAL election didn't happen in your silly little world.

Enjoy 4 years of Trump, chump!

Here comes the local dunce now changing the goalposts yet again after being called out for his bs. First it was the left came out for Hillary in lockstep, then that was disproven, then it was 'wait no, it was the 'Left not Democrats', called out on that as well and wouldn't post a definition of each to prove the point. Again disproven.

now it's 'only the general election'

the left was pretty much in lock step with Sanders you dumb fuck. a large majority of them went Clinton during the general because she was the only viable option besides Trump. while a bunch stayed home. that is far from lockstep. i can't stop repeating myself because you are too fucking stupid to keep up.

Either way you cut it, general election or primaries, there was no lock step behind Hillary. Never at one point.

Your ability at political analysis is a joke, a farce, and downright stupid.

 

[piasabird]

I'm sorry if you can't see reality. The Putin worship was palpable on the right. And I'm sorry also if you can't observe reality without feeling hate. Conservative low life scum voted for Trump because they are brain dead insane. A turd in a toilet bowl is a turd. You don't have to hate it. What would be the point of that. I don't live with shit like that. Voting for Trump was a disgustingly foul thing to do based on a deep sickness within. I don't have that sickness and I didn't vote to fuck my country. And that's exactly what the brain dead but can't see it. Hate would be a waste of effort on dirt like that. They are never going to know it. You talk about fucked. Hahahaha. Pity would be more like it. A bunch of sad deluded bastards who fucked themselves. I don't need to worry. I'm in the cat bird seat.

At least Putin was a leader.

 

[Blackjack200]

Not Sandra Bland - she showed her ass, got arrested, and then could not get a single person to accept her phone calls - not exactly a Sterling example of character - before killing herself.

Sandra Bland was pulled over for a "minor traffic violation" (read: driving while black) and the arresting officer was put on administrative leave after reviewing the dashcam footage. I think it's terribly sad that you have no empathy for her, but the grievance of BLM is not that 'cops are murdering black people', it's that black people's lives are treated like they do not matter. Again, you're the one deliberately misrepresenting the arguments and genesis of the movement, you're the one spreading the false narrative.

 

[Moonbeam]

At least Putin was a leader.

Putin is an authoritarian asshole who used fear to maintain power. The inner sense of worthlessness that conservatives feel gravitates to the strong man as an ideal they imagine will make them feel great as well. You have real value and don't need the worship of heroes to be somebody, but you were taught there is nothing within you that is of value. That is something that only you can retrieve.

 

[fskimospy]

At least Putin was a leader.

I feel like you guys need to make up your mind about Obama. Either he's a milquetoast president with no leadership ability or he's a tyrant fundamentally remaking the US. He can't be both, but somehow you guys seem to swing back and forth between the two caricatures constantly. Pick one and stick with it!