Conservative Have Larger Fear Center!

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sandorski

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One trick the Nazis did to the Jews, is try to make them look subhuman using "science." IMO this whole thread treads on dangerous ground.

Boosting feelings of superiority, and righteousness of creed is a sign of fanaticism.

lol, ya, might wanna stick to those doing it for the last couple decades first.
 

Throckmorton

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I think it has to do with how the parties appeal to people.

Conservatives have become good at appealing to fear-- whether it's fear of negroes Muslims, government, socialism, the UN, taxes on rich people, or illegal immigrants.

Liberals just suck at peddling fear. Note how even after the huge BP spill, most people still support increased offshore drilling. Even after a huge economic collapse caused by the mechanisms to make the rich richer, most Americans don't think wealth concentration is a problem. Even though everybody is at risk of losing their job and therefore health insurance, liberals can't convince America that that is something to be afraid of that universal healthcare would protect them from.
 
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Craig234

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One trick the Nazis did to the Jews, is try to make them look subhuman using "science." IMO this whole thread treads on dangerous ground.

Boosting feelings of superiority, and righteousness of creed is a sign of fanaticism.

Worst play of the nazi card in months.

What's next, criticizing meth use's harm and crime correlation is nazi technique on them?
 

Genx87

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I think it has to do with how the parties appeal to people.

Conservatives have become good at appealing to fear-- whether it's fear of negroes Muslims, government, socialism, the UN, taxes on rich people, or illegal immigrants.

Liberals just suck at peddling fear. Note how even after the huge BP spill, most people still support increased offshore drilling. Even after a huge economic collapse caused by the mechanisms to make the rich richer, most Americans don't think wealth concentration is a problem. Even though everybody is at risk of losing their job and therefore health insurance, liberals can't convince America that that is something to be afraid of that universal healthcare would protect them from.

Liberals fear mongering includes

Welfare cuts making poor people starve in the streets
School cuts destroying our youth
Open Markets hurting the stupid
SS cuts throwing granny out in the street
The rich
Small govt
 

Throckmorton

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Liberals fear mongering includes

Welfare cuts making poor people starve in the streets
School cuts destroying our youth
Open Markets hurting the stupid
SS cuts throwing granny out in the street
The rich
Small govt

But liberals don't push them as well as conservatives push their fears. That's my point.
 

Moonbeam

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This kind of thinking is natural for folk seeking to lump me into a group demonized by topic of discussion. Naturally, someone who is fiscally conservative yet socially liberal can't be an exception. It would be easier for you if I were the real conservative you imagine, an old bible thumping redneck who hates gays and doesn't want guvment meddlin' with my medicare.

You are wrong. I didn't try to lump you anywhere. I just wanted you to know consider what you said with the information I provided so that you could judge for yourself whether you wanted to deflect criticism you didn't want to accept. You and Bober tend to want to point to the error in others instead of focusing on your own limitations. You guys are wrapped up and very intense, eh? Have a dog in this race?
 

Genx87

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But liberals don't push them as well as conservatives push their fears. That's my point.

Are you kidding me? Watch any debate on public policy and the second any of those topics are talked about the fear mongering comes out. If liberals cant push these fear tactics as well as Conservatives then why arent school budgets cut? Why is SS still untouched? Why isnt the welfare state gone????
 

OCGuy

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In the US, a "liberal" point of view would be Marijuana legalization. (SEE: NORML, a liberal group.)

In Holland, this would be a more "conservative" ideology, with the liberal ideology being outright legalization of even opiates.


Does my brain change when I land in Amersterdam or something?


And those who are liberal in college because a professor crams leftist lectures down his throat for 4 years, and later changes ideology.......does the brain physically change?


There is so much subjective about this it should be pointed and laughed at.
 
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Scotteq

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One trick the Nazis did to the Jews, is try to make them look subhuman using "science." IMO this whole thread treads on dangerous ground.

Boosting feelings of superiority, and righteousness of creed is a sign of fanaticism.


It's not Eugenics, it's Social Biology!! :sneaky:
 

hal2kilo

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You are wrong. I didn't try to lump you anywhere. I just wanted you to know consider what you said with the information I provided so that you could judge for yourself whether you wanted to deflect criticism you didn't want to accept. You and Bober tend to want to point to the error in others instead of focusing on your own limitations. You guys are wrapped up and very intense, eh? Have a dog in this race?

You noticed that also, about our resident libertopians.
 

bamacre

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Worst play of the nazi card in months.

What's next, criticizing meth use's harm and crime correlation is nazi technique on them?

Perhaps he could point to the scientific studies showing that homosexuality is the result of a birth defect. :\
 

bamacre

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You are wrong. I didn't try to lump you anywhere. I just wanted you to know consider what you said with the information I provided so that you could judge for yourself whether you wanted to deflect criticism you didn't want to accept. You and Bober tend to want to point to the error in others instead of focusing on your own limitations. You guys are wrapped up and very intense, eh? Have a dog in this race?

Hah, I don't need to examine whether or not I fall into a made-up category entitled "conservatism." I was questioning their use of the term when you decided to jump in and proclaim I was trying to exclude myself from their definition, or lack there of. No reason for me to jump ship when I never climbed aboard.
 

JSt0rm

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One trick the Nazis did to the Jews, is try to make them look subhuman using "science." IMO this whole thread treads on dangerous ground.

Boosting feelings of superiority, and righteousness of creed is a sign of fanaticism.

This is a fair point Zebo.
 

Scotteq

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One trick the Nazis did to the Jews, is try to make them look subhuman using "science." IMO this whole thread treads on dangerous ground.

Boosting feelings of superiority, and righteousness of creed is a sign of fanaticism.


Worst play of the nazi card in months.

What's next, criticizing meth use's harm and crime correlation is nazi technique on them?

Perhaps he could point to the scientific studies showing that homosexuality is the result of a birth defect. :\




Out of Curiosity: Why is it the Original Post's premise that differences in brains to explain why "Conservatives" were "different" was (seemingly) accepted as fodder for discussion. And yet Z's post bringing up the highly relevant point that these types of pseudo~scientific studies were, in fact, used as justification to commit all manner of atrocities in the past is what gets attacked?




Are we to believe it's acceptable to use the method to attack <one's opponents>, but when someone points out that the same method was used by Nazis (and others) to provide similar ammunition for dehumanizing groups of people.... That someone is wrong??
 
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bamacre

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You noticed that also, about our resident libertopians.

Well, Republicans think we're Democrats, and Democrats think we're Republicans. It's not our fault the average American brain can't see past the two parties.
 

Scotteq

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Well, Republicans think we're Democrats, and Democrats think we're Republicans. It's not our fault the average American brain can't see past the two parties.


Nor, as is often the case here in P&N, even differentiate between social issues and economic ones. :\
 

Moonbeam

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Hah, I don't need to examine whether or not I fall into a made-up category entitled "conservatism." I was questioning their use of the term when you decided to jump in and proclaim I was trying to exclude myself from their definition, or lack there of. No reason for me to jump ship when I never climbed aboard.

I guess you never thought that you are a fiscal conservative because you place a value on money to keeping the fear of poverty away and to maintain an illusory sense of self worth.
 

bamacre

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I guess you never thought that you are a fiscal conservative because you place a value on money to keeping the fear of poverty away and to maintain an illusory sense of self worth.

I suppose that's what happens when you guess.
 

Moonbeam

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You noticed that also, about our resident libertopians.

Yes I do. I note a worship of the perfect in defiance of reality of a pragmatic need for the greater good. I see these folk as prisoners of idealism of a kind that keeps them pure in their own imaginative self image, as if only they had clean hands. I see this as nothing but a childish ego need to imagine oneself as clean and not dirty like lesser beings. I am filthy, myself, but I love mud so mud pies are OK by me.
 

Moonbeam

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I suppose that's what happens when you guess.

I find it better to offer truth as a guess rather that state it as a fact. This allows you to consider it without the weight of certainty hanging over your head and to deflect it superciliously, as you did, if you lack seriousness.
 

BoberFett

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One trick the Nazis did to the Jews, is try to make them look subhuman using "science." IMO this whole thread treads on dangerous ground.

Boosting feelings of superiority, and righteousness of creed is a sign of fanaticism.

This thread should come as no surprise to you then. The more the "left" protests that they are not like the "right" they so despise, the more obvious it is that they're identical.