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BoberFett

BoberFett

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Moonbeam said:
Yes I do. I note a worship of the perfect in defiance of reality of a pragmatic need for the greater good. I see these folk as prisoners of idealism of a kind that keeps them pure in their own imaginative self image, as if only they had clean hands. I see this as nothing but a childish ego need to imagine oneself as clean and not dirty like lesser beings. I am filthy, myself, but I love mud so mud pies are OK by me.
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The greatest good is the love of friends and family. As a libertarian, I don't care what the world does, the love of family is all I need. With the amount of self-hate you "liberals" have for yourselves it doesn't surprise me that you choose to focus your efforts on building massive government to fill the void. You want to force the whole world to love you. How sad.
 
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Moonbeam

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BoberFett said:
The greatest good is the love of friends and family. As a libertarian, I don't care what the world does, the love of family is all I need. With the amount of self-hate you "liberals" have for yourselves it doesn't surprise me that you choose to focus your efforts on building massive government to fill the void. You want to force the whole world to love you. How sad.
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Your friends and family are the whole world. You are more closely identical genetically to any other person in the world, than two chimpanzees who live in the same area in Africa are identical to each other. WE are all the same, us humans. All your other junk about liberals isn't about liberals to me. I think it's your amygdala speaking.
 
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Moonbeam

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sMiLeYz said:
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Originally Posted by Hayabusa Rider
The real problem is that ideologues have larger idiot centers.

truth
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Those idiot centers are called egos, the identification with some externally they were trained to believe would grant them self value if they joined. An ideologue is a person who has no inner sense of self worth and has substituted something else that is in fact incapable of replacing it. An ideologue is a person whose attachment to something is based on the fear that if that to which he attached is found to be false, it will mean he is truly as worthless as he was made to feel. An ideologue is an idiot because there is nothing wrong with him save he believes there is. Do not despise idiots too much least that hatred blind you to the fact you may also be in that camp.
 
Throckmorton

Throckmorton

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I for one live in constant fear. Fear of losing health insurance, fear of hurricanes and tsunamis, fear of being stabbed by a meth addict on a Friday night, fear of being homeless when I'm too old to work.

That's why I'm a Democrat. The "free market" can't save me from any of these things, but the government can.
 
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Moonbeam

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Throckmorton said:
I for one live in constant fear. Fear of losing health insurance, fear of hurricanes and tsunamis, fear of being stabbed by a meth addict on a Friday night, fear of being homeless when I'm too old to work.

That's why I'm a Democrat. The "free market" can't save me from any of these things, but the government can.
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Right, and the reason the government will save you is because by doing so you can continue to play in the market and the government will get back what it spends on you in the taxes you pay. Government is just social insurance.
 
JD50

JD50

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Throckmorton said:
But liberals don't push them as well as conservatives push their fears. That's my point.
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Throckmorton said:
I for one live in constant fear. Fear of losing health insurance, fear of hurricanes and tsunamis, fear of being stabbed by a meth addict on a Friday night, fear of being homeless when I'm too old to work.

That's why I'm a Democrat. The "free market" can't save me from any of these things, but the government can.
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Apparently they do.
 
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DucatiMonster696

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Throckmorton said:
I for one live in constant fear. Fear of losing health insurance, fear of hurricanes and tsunamis, fear of being stabbed by a meth addict on a Friday night, fear of being homeless when I'm too old to work.

That's why I'm a Democrat. The "free market" can't save me from any of these things, but the government can.
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When government (which we see now at state the level) goes bankrupt because of massive over spending it won't be doing much of anything for you period. You are taking your future and putting it in the hands of bureaucrats rather then taking charge of it using the "Free Market" to benefit yourself. You're a passive lamb economically it seems.
 
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Nemesis 1

Nemesis 1

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I consider myself conservative. There are things that bother me , Like when my children were teens and had the car . I feared for there safty . Is that fear . I don't believe so . I worry about my childrens and grandchildrens well being . Is that fear or concern . I have many concerns ,. The only thing that I can say strikes fear into my heart is not death . But God rightious judgement of me. Thats something to fear. But you libs have no fear of such things . Only your persona well being . l feel bad for the judgement that has already been rendered against you . Hubris is a bad thing and you liberials are very hubris along with so called christians who are completely cluesless as to what you worship. Hubris gone wild.
 
Nemesis 1

Nemesis 1

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Throckmorton said:
I think it has to do with how the parties appeal to people.

Conservatives have become good at appealing to fear-- whether it's fear of negroes Muslims, government, socialism, the UN, taxes on rich people, or illegal immigrants.

Liberals just suck at peddling fear. Note how even after the huge BP spill, most people still support increased offshore drilling. Even after a huge economic collapse caused by the mechanisms to make the rich richer, most Americans don't think wealth concentration is a problem. Even though everybody is at risk of losing their job and therefore health insurance, liberals can't convince America that that is something to be afraid of that universal healthcare would protect them from.
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Ya see this must be true. What Gulf accident you talking about , Are you referring to the attempt by liberials to create prophecy come true . After all the gulf current got really screwed up. Ask the EU how their winter is going now that there not getting that nice warm water from the Gulf. Ask the mammals in the gulf waters how they like the frigid water. The mermaid are sruggling for life. Liberials had no fear of what their actions in the gulf would do. I guess they lack the understanding of their own actions. Thoughtlessness! But this isn't the last attempt they will make a making prophecy occur . After all we have all those those newly built ferma camps to hold people such as myself in. Not to fear tho as the good guys have a royal flush in this hand and the liberials thinking they have the winning hand with 4- 9s. The laydown is yet to come as wagering is still going on. I bet they cry cheat on the laydown in 2011.
 
Nemesis 1

Nemesis 1

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I spent alot of time going to school to be come nurse only to be striken after finishing. It was hard to take . All i wanted was to help the sickly and thats what I became. Ironic but it was a lesson well learned. I even went to mexico to get druges our government stops . Ya I feared for self . But a child 1 year ago told me that he would fix me. I don't know if he did or not. As a refused the help american doctors offer. I can say I am stronger today than a year ago . But still pretty weak . But that childs faith has given me something to hang onto. Its really funny his 4 month old brother who I also carefor according to everone is differant around me than all others. Me and his brother have wonderful days together . I wish I had them 5 days aweek . But daughter and wife worked it out so as not to over work me. But wife sees now that was a mistake on their part. daughter works weekends so grandma can assist me. Fear is a strange animal that can be easily tamed threw faith.
 
Throckmorton

Throckmorton

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Moonbeam said:
Right, and the reason the government will save you is because by doing so you can continue to play in the market and the government will get back what it spends on you in the taxes you pay. Government is just social insurance.
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The problem with a conservative is he isn't afraid of the things he should be. You can fire him from his job, take his house away, and take his health insurance away, and he'll still be proclaiming the virtues of the free market from his cardboard box on the streetcorner.
 
Throckmorton

Throckmorton

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Nemesis 1 said:
Ya see this must be true. What Gulf accident you talking about , Are you referring to the attempt by liberials to create prophecy come true . After all the gulf current got really screwed up. Ask the EU how their winter is going now that there not getting that nice warm water from the Gulf. Ask the mammals in the gulf waters how they like the frigid water. The mermaid are sruggling for life. Liberials had no fear of what their actions in the gulf would do. I guess they lack the understanding of their own actions. Thoughtlessness! But this isn't the last attempt they will make a making prophecy occur . After all we have all those those newly built ferma camps to hold people such as myself in. Not to fear tho as the good guys have a royal flush in this hand and the liberials thinking they have the winning hand with 4- 9s. The laydown is yet to come as wagering is still going on. I bet they cry cheat on the laydown in 2011.
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Mermaids??
 
Nemesis 1

Nemesis 1

Lifer
Dec 30, 2006
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^ I knew that was coming in the gulf we have a mammal that sailors mistakenly called Mermaids. Lok it up . They are in deep trouble right now as the water is to cold.
 
Red Dawn

Red Dawn

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PeshakJang said:
That's really what you are saying, and I agree completely.

And I'll say, the problem with a liberal is, he values security more than freedom.
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That's why a Conservative Administration pushed through the Patriot Act.
 
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PeshakJang

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Red Dawn said:
That's why a Republican Administration pushed through the Patriot Act.
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Fixed that. There's a difference between Republican and Conservative, just as there's a difference between a liberal and a Democrat. Bush and the Repubs did a lot of things that weren't conservative, just like Obama and the Democrats are doing a lot of things most liberals don't consider liberal. Politicians are politicians.
 
Red Dawn

Red Dawn

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PeshakJang said:
Fixed that. There's a difference between Republican and Conservative, just as there's a difference between a liberal and a Democrat. Bush and the Repubs did a lot of things that weren't conservative, just like Obama and the Democrats are doing a lot of things most liberals don't consider liberal. Politicians are politicians.
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Well then we haven't had a Conservative Administration in decades.
 
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