Congresswoman to Google CEO: Why when I search ‘idiot’ do I get pictures of Trump? Claims conspiracy.

[ch33zw1z]

Lol, regulate the free market. Gg guys. I forgot Google's the only game in town.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Lol, regulate the free market. Gg guys. I forgot Google's the only game in town.

Nothing to see here citizens. Move along.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/...king-data-ad-targeting-facebook-google-amazon

 

[ch33zw1z]

Nothing to see here citizens. Move along.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/...king-data-ad-targeting-facebook-google-amazon

Wrong. There's plenty to discuss, again and again, like it hasn't been beaten to death. None of this is surprising.

Spare me the outrage. Republican leaders dont give a shit about that. They only care if it isn't kissing their asses.

Read your other articles. Regulation private businesses when there's plenty of other options out there is foolish nonsense that's all about feels. But not one bit surprising that all of a sudden republicans are for it in a drastic change of stance.

You wanna regulate Google's ISP venture? Fine by me. You wanna address aggressive data collection and advertisement targeting, let's do it. But pretending like this is a Google specific problem indicates a general ignorance regarding how to the internet functions.

I can get behind something like the EU's GDPR, which America isn't "qualified" under lol...

The ideological 180 is transparently centered around feels and ignorance.

 

[nOOky]

A quick image search for idiot using duckduckgo has plenty of images of DJT right thur on top.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Wrong. There's plenty to discuss, again and again, like it hasn't been beaten to death. None of this is surprising.

Spare me the outrage. Republican leaders dont give a shit about that. They only care if it isn't kissing their asses.

Read your other articles. Regulation private businesses when there's plenty of other options out there is foolish nonsense that's all about feels. But not one bit surprising that all of a sudden republicans are for it in a drastic change of stance.

You wanna regulate Google's ISP venture? Fine by me. You wanna address aggressive data collection and advertisement targeting, let's do it. But pretending like this is a Google specific problem indicates a general ignorance regarding how to the internet functions.

I can get behind something like the EU's GDPR, which America isn't "qualified" under lol...

The ideological 180 is transparently centered around feels and ignorance.

Also spare me the outrage that this is a GOP only issue. While Republicans seek less restrictive regulations around traditional industries like fossil fuels and manufacturing, and are hypocrites for now demanding regulations on Google, the Democrats are so deeply entwined with Silicon Valley that the party of “big government” has not exactly moved the needle on the privacy and monopoly concerns that both you and I see as legitimate. The sudden adoration of free market capitalism and meritocracies warms my heart.

Google is not the only problematic company, but they are symbolic of the disease that permeates across tech, and Pichai did little to change perceptions of tech executives as arrogant and out of touch.

 

[ch33zw1z]

A quick image search for idiot using duckduckgo has plenty of images of DJT right thur on top.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=idiot&t=h_&ia=about

Hits at the top are about definitions and how searching for idiot turns up trump, guess why....because that's what is the latest.

Hey, maybe Trump's an idiot and people post online / write news articles about it lol....

 

[ch33zw1z]

Also spare me the outrage that this is a GOP only issue. While Republicans seek less restrictive regulations around traditional industries like fossil fuels and manufacturing, and are hypocrites for now demanding regulations on Google, the Democrats are so deeply entwined with Silicon Valley that the party of “big government” has not exactly moved the needle on the privacy and monopoly concerns that both you and I see as legitimate.

Google is not the only problematic company, but they are symbolic of the disease that permeates acrosd tech, and Pichai did little to change perceptions of tech executives as arrogant and out of touch.

Pathetic attempt at both sides. Republicans do an about face and youre there to try and equalize it.

We'll agree that this is overall a problem for the American people, who wholly DGAF unless they're told to, and that's our illustrious education system and parental failures or maybe successes at work.

Overall Americans are ignorant to what's happening behind the scenes, should the government now become our baby sitters? Guess so cause someone was mean to republicans

 

[darkswordsman17]

Didn't people manipulate Google's algorithm years ago that made it so googling "Failure" or "miserable failure" turned up nothing but pictures of George Bush?

Not sure about that situation, but I know there was a lot of gaming of the results, which is why Google added extra things that get taken into account specifically in order to abstract who can control/dictate the results (including from within).

That whole hearing was like watching a (good) SNL skit. Some of the gold these guys were mindlessly dropping:

"Why do you have to go to the third page before you find anyone saying anything good about HB 1234"

"Uh... Because people aren't saying good things about your shittt bill"

"It's a CONSPIRACY"

What's sad is the red meat is likely drawing in conservative/Evangelical folks with a persecution complex. Doesn't help that Google is obviously run by a illegal immigrant terrorist.

The thing is, I don't think they're that stupid. By that, I mean, I'm sure they have no fucking clue how any of this stuff works, what an algorithm is, or anything, but I'm fairly sure they actually know Google is not manipulating the results. I'm also pretty sure they've been told by conservative friendly people that do understand this stuff what to think. This was a show, for the base, and also for people that despise them to distract them by giving them something to point and laugh at and obfuscate them doing absolutely nothing about the much more serious issues. They play the fool on this while they don't address the actual issue this hearing was for (privacy and data collection).

 

[Starbuck1975]

Pathetic attempt at both sides. Republicans do an about face and youre there to try and equalize it.

We'll agree that this is overall a problem for the American people, who wholly DGAF unless they're told to, and that's our illustrious education system and parental failures or maybe successes at work.

Overall Americans are ignorant to what's happening behind the scenes, should the government now become our baby sitters? Guess so cause someone was mean to republicans

Faux outrage noted. There are legitimate underlying concerns, and all you care about is myopic and tribalistic nonsense.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Why would it matter if Google is partisan? Google is not a government entity. They are allowed to be just as biased as they wish. They could intentionally change their algorithms to make every search for Trump come back with a picture of a horses ass and it would be well within their rights. It would be protected under the First Amendment as political commentary by a private organization.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Ted Lieu response to this

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/rep-ted...blaming-yourself-for-negative-google-results/

“Let me just conclude here by stating the obvious. If you want positive search results, do positive things. If you don’t want negative search results, don’t do negative things. To some of my colleagues across the aisle, if you’re getting bad press articles and bad search results, don’t blame Google or Facebook or Twitter. Consider blaming yourself.”

Lieu continued by performing a “real-time Google search” where he changed “Scalise” to “King,” referencing Rep. Steve King (R-IA) who was present at the hearing and has been in the news lately over his ties to the white supremacist movement.

“The article that pops up is from ABC News, ‘Steve King’s racist immigration talk prompts calls for Congressional censure,'” Lieu said. “That’s a negative article, but you don’t have a group of people at Google sitting there — to modify search results, [so] every time Steve King comes up, a negative article appears — that’s not what’s happening, right?”

It's not a conspiracy for people on the internet to call you a piece of shit when you act like a piece of shit.

A while back Republicans passed legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare," said Rep. Steve Chabot (R-OH). Chabot said, he Googled the Republican legislation and "virtually every article was an attack on our bill. It wasn't until you got to the third or fourth page of search results before you found anything remotely positive."

This was extremely unpopular, deal with it. Republicans prove yet again that the only thing they truly care about is themselves. They want sound bites for their political base. That same base that confuses angry, incoherent shouting with leading.

They don't want 'neutral', even if that's a true assessment of Google's search ranking algorithms: they want their search engine "fair and balanced". There seems to be a push of "false neutrality" from conservatives where it means that there has to be an equal number of stories each way, regardless of the truth of the matter.

 

[dank69]

Also spare me the outrage that this is a GOP only issue. While Republicans seek less restrictive regulations around traditional industries like fossil fuels and manufacturing, and are hypocrites for now demanding regulations on Google, the Democrats are so deeply entwined with Silicon Valley that the party of “big government” has not exactly moved the needle on the privacy and monopoly concerns that both you and I see as legitimate. The sudden adoration of free market capitalism and meritocracies warms my heart.

Google is not the only problematic company, but they are symbolic of the disease that permeates across tech, and Pichai did little to change perceptions of tech executives as arrogant and out of touch.

Hmm when is the last time the Democrats held the House where legislation originates? Oh that's right, two-thousand-fucking-ten.

 

[OCGuy]

While these morons don't even realize how badly they embarrassed themselves, and Google's search results are 100% accurate for that word, your premise is partially incorrect.

Search results can be manipulated by a "small group" of people, nobody really disputes that. I am not saying that is what is being done here. These lawmakers were ridiculous, but the concept of manipulating search results are openly discussed, even by Google employees.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Faux outrage noted. There are legitimate underlying concerns, and all you care about is myopic and tribalistic nonsense.

Bullshit, you know it. Read it again, or at all. U Mad cuz cons are making themselves looked like idiots and people tell them so.

If I googled idiot and Hilary came up, cons wouldn't care anymore

 

[Jhhnn]

While these morons don't even realize how badly they embarrassed themselves, and Google's search results are 100% accurate for that word, your premise is partially incorrect.

Search results can be manipulated by a "small group" of people, nobody really disputes that. I am not saying that is what is being done here. These lawmakers were ridiculous, but the concept of manipulating search results are openly discussed, even by Google employees.

For sure. I figure that's what happens when Breitbart comes up at the top...

 

[BurnItDwn]

If you search for idiot, trump is only SOME of the pictures.
If you search for dotard, trump is almost ALL of the pictures!

Hahaha

 

[nakedfrog]

Why would it matter if Google is partisan? Google is not a government entity. They are allowed to be just as biased as they wish. They could intentionally change their algorithms to make every search for Trump come back with a picture of a horses ass and it would be well within their rights. It would be protected under the First Amendment as political commentary by a private organization.

But they're too powerful to be allowed to be biased.
Wait, aren't corporations people, though?
Such a sticky wicket...

 

[Starbuck1975]

Hmm when is the last time the Democrats held the House where legislation originates? Oh that's right, two-thousand-fucking-ten.

Hmm they just won the House. How many Democrats ran on reigning in tech? Perhaps that is why conservative news outlets like Vox and Slate are calling out both parties on this issue. But by all means, please keep making excuses for the Democrats.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Bullshit, you know it. Read it again, or at all. U Mad cuz cons are making themselves looked like idiots and people tell them so.

If I googled idiot and Hilary came up, cons wouldn't care anymore

I don’t care about whose image comes up on a keyword search. This whole “issue” and thread is a useful distraction for useful idiots. I do care about the recent NY Times article on data privacy.

 

[OCGuy]

For sure. I figure that's what happens when Breitbart comes up at the top...

Close. While Google admits the possibility is real, and that they have discussed it, they have not actually pulled the trigger.



"WASHINGTON—Days after the Trump administration instituted a controversial travel ban in January 2017, Google employees discussed ways they might be able to tweak the company’s search-related functions to show users how to contribute to pro-immigration organizations and contact lawmakers and government agencies, according to internal company emails."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/google...rch-function-to-counter-travel-ban-1537488472

 

[ch33zw1z]

Hmm they just won the House. How many Democrats ran on reigning in tech? Perhaps that is why conservative news outlets like Vox and Slate are calling out both parties on this issue. But by all means, please keep making excuses for the Democrats.

Lol, duhvert! This is another pathetic attempt to both sides away. Republicans have had the house for 8 years, plenty of time to address tech problems, sad. All we've seen from them is attempt to deregulate ISP's so they can rake us over the coals.

But please, after all the conservatives outrage over government regulations for clean water, air, and renewable energy, tell us how their outrage over search engine results is legit.

Like I said many posts ago, I'll support an EU GDPR style regulation. If your not familiar with it, many people aren't, no problem ..the information is out there. You can find it on any of the readily available search engines.

What I won't support is knee jerk faux outrage crybabies wanting to regulate what they simply don't comprehend and for the wrong reasons.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Lol, duhvert! This is another pathetic attempt to both sides away. Republicans have had the house for 8 years, plenty of time to address tech problems, sad. All we've seen from them is attempt to deregulate ISP's so they can rake us over the coals.

But please, after all the conservatives outrage over government regulations for clean water, air, and renewable energy, tell us how their outrage over search engine results is legit.

Like I said many posts ago, I'll support an EU GDPR style regulation. If your not familiar with it, many people aren't, no problem ..the information is out there. You can find it on any of the readily available search engines.

What I won't support is knee jerk faux outrage crybabies wanting to regulate what they simply don't comprehend and for the wrong reasons.

Ah yes the ever popular, worn and overused both sides “duhvert” card because reality doesn’t fit your tribalistic narrative. The irony is that we both support the assertive EU approach to regulating tech when it comes to privacy. You want to lay the blame at the feet of the GOP because of their misguided political stunt by which they incorrectly phrased relevant questions. The Democrats are beholden to Silicon Valley donors much as the GOP is beholden to the Koch Brothers and fossil fuels. I don’t expect to see any leadership on this issue.

 

[OCGuy]

This may be a heretical idea guys, but I'm still working out the kinks, so hear me out:

Is it possible that this line of questioning was as dumb as shit, and the big tech companies are abusive monopolies with information/our data?

 

[Starbuck1975]

This may be a heretical idea guys, but I'm still working out the kinks, so hear me out:

Is it possible that this line of questioning was as dumb as shit, and the big tech companies are abusive monopolies with information/our data?

Absolutely. Now which of the two is worth getting outraged over? So much rage and concern over the posing of dumb questions. The abusive tech monopolies...crickets.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Hmm they just won the House. How many Democrats ran on reigning in tech? Perhaps that is why conservative news outlets like Vox and Slate are calling out both parties on this issue. But by all means, please keep making excuses for the Democrats.

I dunno man..These "hearings" don't seem to be about Googles handling of personal data or a fact finding mission of how the technology works. They seem to be whining sessions by granpa's like Steve King about how his grand daughter see's negative things about him when they search his name. Maybe the parents of this child should know his views on things are not popular and block his name on her phone. When Democrats start whining in tax payer funded hearings about how negative searches are so unfair to them..I'll listen.

What should Democrats run on with regards to reigning in tech? What is "reigning in tech"?. It all depends on what this means..if I listen. It seems like that many Reps. in this committee think there is some liberal conspiracy by Google against conservatives. I going to assume the majority of people working at Google and probably most companies in existence thinks Steve King has horrible views and doesn't support the truth. The only thing he, and other's like him in the Republican party can do is to be for things that are popular and support the truth or do whatever things that will make him likable . He seems to not accept the fact that may people don't like him. No conspiracy found.