Congratulations to the people of Spain!

[FrodoB]

The Spaniards decided to accelerate the fall of European civilization by giving in to fear.
As history has taught us, appeasement is absolutely foolish. How many millions died in World War 2 because Europe was unwilling to deal with Hitler? Europe and the American Left are as destructive as the terrorists themselves because they allow evil to flourish.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Anyway - according to the left it has become the battleground - they keep saying that Iraq is the cause and breeding ground. If they say so... otherwise they couldn't use the Al Qaeda/Iraq scenario for Spain - no?

Your contention remains incorrect. That you continue to repeat it after countless people have clearly, repeatedly explained why it is wrong demonstrates how dishonest you have become in your defense of King George. Please let us all know if you someday become interested in discussion instead of pointless diversionary arguments.

So it is your contention that Iraq isn't a current battleground for terrorism?

CkG

Of course it is, but only because we decided to invade it. Now there are terrorists roaming the streets all over the place.

OK - So if it is - then how can someone say the terrorists didn't win last week? The new Spainish "govt" promised to pull their troops - and they've set a timetable to do so...just like the terrorists wanted.

Terrorists influenced things through terrorism and the killing of innocents. They will keep doing so until they are stopped and killed.

CkG

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Anyway - according to the left it has become the battleground - they keep saying that Iraq is the cause and breeding ground. If they say so... otherwise they couldn't use the Al Qaeda/Iraq scenario for Spain - no?

Your contention remains incorrect. That you continue to repeat it after countless people have clearly, repeatedly explained why it is wrong demonstrates how dishonest you have become in your defense of King George. Please let us all know if you someday become interested in discussion instead of pointless diversionary arguments.

So it is your contention that Iraq isn't a current battleground for terrorism?

CkG

That statement is also dishonest.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Anyway - according to the left it has become the battleground - they keep saying that Iraq is the cause and breeding ground. If they say so... otherwise they couldn't use the Al Qaeda/Iraq scenario for Spain - no?

Your contention remains incorrect. That you continue to repeat it after countless people have clearly, repeatedly explained why it is wrong demonstrates how dishonest you have become in your defense of King George. Please let us all know if you someday become interested in discussion instead of pointless diversionary arguments.

So it is your contention that Iraq isn't a current battleground for terrorism?

CkG

That statement is also dishonest.

That was a question.

CkG

*note - this post was a statement

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
OK - So if it is - then how can someone say the terrorists didn't win last week? The new Spainish "govt" promised to pull their troops - and they've set a timetable to do so...just like the terrorists wanted.

Terrorists influenced things through terrorism and the killing of innocents. They will keep doing so until they are stopped and killed.

CkG

Thanks to King George's detour from the war on terror, the terrorists won when they successfully attacked Spain. Bush lost when the people of Spain repudiated his warmongering and his failed war on terrorism.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Anyway - according to the left it has become the battleground - they keep saying that Iraq is the cause and breeding ground. If they say so... otherwise they couldn't use the Al Qaeda/Iraq scenario for Spain - no?

Your contention remains incorrect. That you continue to repeat it after countless people have clearly, repeatedly explained why it is wrong demonstrates how dishonest you have become in your defense of King George. Please let us all know if you someday become interested in discussion instead of pointless diversionary arguments.

So it is your contention that Iraq isn't a current battleground for terrorism?

CkG

That statement is also dishonest.

That was a question.

CkG

*note - this post was a statement

Yes, that statement was a question. It was a dishonest question.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Anyway - according to the left it has become the battleground - they keep saying that Iraq is the cause and breeding ground. If they say so... otherwise they couldn't use the Al Qaeda/Iraq scenario for Spain - no?

Your contention remains incorrect. That you continue to repeat it after countless people have clearly, repeatedly explained why it is wrong demonstrates how dishonest you have become in your defense of King George. Please let us all know if you someday become interested in discussion instead of pointless diversionary arguments.

So it is your contention that Iraq isn't a current battleground for terrorism?

CkG

That statement is also dishonest.

That was a question.

CkG

*note - this post was a statement

Yes, that statement was a question. It was a dishonest question.

So is that a yes or a no?
Do you think Iraq is currently a battleground on terrorism? Yes( ) No( )

CkG

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Yes, that statement was a question. It was a dishonest question.

So is that a yes or a no?
Do you think Iraq is currently a battleground on terrorism? Yes( ) No( )

CkG

CkG

I think your statement is still a dishonest question. I think I am not going to play your pointless games on your terms anymore.

 

[DealMonkey]

So first it was, "Iraq which is now the central battle ground on terror."

Now it has become "Iraq is currently a battleground on terrorism."

Next, will it be, "Iraq which is a battleground."

And later, perhaps "Iraq. Ground."

Lord Bushy has taught you well Sir Cad.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Yes, that statement was a question. It was a dishonest question.

So is that a yes or a no?
Do you think Iraq is currently a battleground on terrorism? Yes( ) No( )

CkG

I think your statement is still a dishonest question. I think I am not going to play your pointless games on your terms anymore.

Ah yes - can't even answer a simple question and yet I'm the one playing pointless games

Sure bow -whatever helps you sleep at night...

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
So first it was, "Iraq which is now the central battle ground on terror."

Now it has become "Iraq is currently a battleground on terrorism."

Next, will it be, "Iraq which is a battleground."

And later, perhaps "Iraq. Ground."

Lord Bushy has taught you well Sir Cad.

No monkey boy - you need to read what I said and then follow things. Nice try though.

CkG

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Yes, that statement was a question. It was a dishonest question.

So is that a yes or a no?
Do you think Iraq is currently a battleground on terrorism? Yes( ) No( )

CkG

I think your statement is still a dishonest question. I think I am not going to play your pointless games on your terms anymore.

Ah yes - can't even answer a simple question and yet I'm the one playing pointless games

Sure bow -whatever helps you sleep at night...

CkG

Yes, I will not answer your dishonest question. Please let us know if and when you become interested in discussion instead of pointless diversionary arguments.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Yes, that statement was a question. It was a dishonest question.

So is that a yes or a no?
Do you think Iraq is currently a battleground on terrorism? Yes( ) No( )

CkG

I think your statement is still a dishonest question. I think I am not going to play your pointless games on your terms anymore.

Ah yes - can't even answer a simple question and yet I'm the one playing pointless games

Sure bow -whatever helps you sleep at night...

CkG

Yes, I will not answer your dishonest question. Please let us know if and when you become interested in discussion instead of pointless diversionary arguments.

It's a central point in determining the legitimacy of using Iraq as Al Qaeda's reasoning for attacking Spain. phocus didn't seem to have a problem admitting it is - why won't you answer it? Oh, that's right- because you know it proves my point- no?. If not - then why won't you answer? Why is it not a legitimate question when we are talking about terrorist attacks, spain, and involvement in Iraq?

Thanks for playing tonight bow - no need to respond if you won't answer my question.

CkG

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Yes, that statement was a question. It was a dishonest question.

So is that a yes or a no?
Do you think Iraq is currently a battleground on terrorism? Yes( ) No( )

CkG

I think your statement is still a dishonest question. I think I am not going to play your pointless games on your terms anymore.

Ah yes - can't even answer a simple question and yet I'm the one playing pointless games

Sure bow -whatever helps you sleep at night...

CkG

Yes, I will not answer your dishonest question. Please let us know if and when you become interested in discussion instead of pointless diversionary arguments.

What's so hard about saying "YES" but adding "because cowboy bush made it that way";

no one reasonable can say that we don't fight terrorism now in Iraq, or that labia would have given up it's nuclear program without the invasion; but it is reasonable to say that their where better country's to go after;

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
It's a central point in determining the legitimacy of using Iraq as Al Qaeda's reasoning for attacking Spain. phocus didn't seem to have a problem admitting it is - why won't you answer it? Oh, that's right- because you know it proves my point- no?. If not - then why won't you answer? Why is it not a legitimate question when we are talking about terrorist attacks, spain, and involvement in Iraq?

Thanks for playing tonight bow - no need to respond if you won't answer my question.

CkG

Your contention remains incorrect, your question irrelevant. That you continue to repeat it after countless people have clearly, repeatedly explained why it is wrong demonstrates how dishonest you have become in your defense of King George. Please let us all know if you someday become interested in discussion instead of pointless diversionary arguments.

 

[NonSequiter]

Yes, I will not answer your dishonest question. Please let us know if and when you become interested in discussions instead of pointless diversionary arguments.

How is it dishonest? There are currently terrorists in Iraq and coalition forces are engaged in fighting them, along with homegrown insurgents, criminal elements, and perhaps a good chunk of nihilists and others just in for blowing some sh!t up and causing havok. Basically, Cad is asking whether you agree or disagree with the "flypaper" theory of current Iraqi affairs, and it doesn't make any sense to avoid the question of whether it's a good policy or not.

That you prefer to concentrate on the other side of the coin (that they would likely be elsewhere if we hadn't invaded Iraq) doesn't make Cad's question dishonest. You can disagree with how we arrived at this point and still address issues about the reality on the ground now, not just what should have beens.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
What's so hard about saying "YES" but adding "because cowboy bush made it that way";

As I said before, "I think [his] statement is still a dishonest question. I think I am not going to play [his] pointless games on [his] terms anymore.

no one reasonable can say that we don't fight terrorism now in Iraq, or that labia would have given up it's nuclear program without the invasion; but it is reasonable to say that their where better country's to go after;

I suggest anyone whose labia have a nuclear program see a good gynecologist immediately.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: ObnoxiousNameTooLong
How is it dishonest? There are currently terrorists in Iraq and coalition forces are engaged in fighting them, along with homegrown insurgents, criminal elements, and perhaps a good chunk of nihilists and others just in for blowing some sh!t up and causing havok. Basically, Cad is asking whether you agree or disagree with the "flypaper" theory of current Iraqi affairs, and it doesn't make any sense to avoid the question of whether it's a good policy or not.

That you prefer to concentrate on the other side of the coin (that they would likely be elsewhere if we hadn't invaded Iraq) doesn't make Cad's question dishonest. You can disagree with how we arrived at this point and still address issues about the reality on the ground now, not just what should have beens.

The people of Spain would not be suffering right now if King George had not detoured from the real war on terror to invade Iraq. The people of Spain would not be suffering right now if their government represented their beliefs and interests instead of kissing George's butt.

 

[NonSequiter]

As I said before, "I think [his] statement is still a dishonest question. I think I am not going to play [his] pointless games on [his] terms anymore.

Okay, we'll keep it simple then. Do you agree or disagree with the
Flypaper Doctrine as it was originally dubbed by David Warren?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: ObnoxiousNameTooLong
Okay, we'll keep it simple then. Do you agree or disagree with the
Flypaper Doctrine as it was originally dubbed by David Warren?

It's an off-topic diversion in this thread. Put it in a new thread. I'll be happy to discuss it there.

 

[NonSequiter]

It's an off-topic diversion in this thread. Put it in a new thread. I'll be happy to discuss it there.

Point taken. Fair enough, and IMHO it's a good enough topic for another thread.

* EDIT * Evidently Cad thought so too, and so your wish is granted. new thread.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Is Iraq the Battlefield against Terrrorism ?

No. It is the broken shell of a country that was left after the Gulf War of 1991,
a country that was crushed by the US and Allies military might, and held at
bay through brutal sanctions for 12 years. 12 years of imposed hardships on the
people as punishment for having been left with the dictator that we placed there falling
out of favor with the Bush-1 Administration after being rewarded by the Reagan Administration
for being our bulldog and having a million of thier people killed in our proxie fight against Iran.

Bush-2 went into office with a single minded intent on finishing thier families revenge against
Saddam, as he was not allowed to prove to the world that he had, in fact, disarmed.
The people of Iraq continued to be punished with sanctions in the hopes that they would
rise up against him, like those did at the end of Gulf-1, where while we were point blank in your
face there, stood by and let his remaining Army wipe out those who dared show opposition.
Damn, we had just stomped his Army, and had them on the run, and we stepped aside and
let them re-group then we looked and yawned as his remaining troops crushed the feeble resistance.
Yes sir, I really think that they have learned to trust the US policies there,

It's not a Battlefield against Terrorism, it's a symbol of what happens to a country if Paranoid
leaders who are absolutely ignorant of the world and it's ways find themselves floundering in
a mess that they made and don't really care about - unless it's for thier millionare benefactors.

Terrorist Organizations are not going to be fighting us in Iraq, they are going to punish us and
those who were good little puppies and fell in line to accept the payment of concession.

Iraqis are going to be fighting us stealthy and cunningly, when they see a nick in our armour.
Get a little careless here, a little complacency there, they have centuries to go - it's their country.
They have been through this before, several times in multi-thousands of years, it's our turn now.

And all the time that we are making a big thing about Iraq and it being a battleground against terrorism,
the real terrorists will be selling you slurpies, answering your Tech Calls in India, golfing with OJ -
and we'll never be looking for the Real Killers.

 

[fjord]

Honesty with regards to Iraq? That is hard to come by, precious few are willing to whisper the truth. Its a bitter pill that few in the U.S. are willing to own-up to.

I am sad to say that we are are the criminals in Iraq. We are the agressors. We are the invaders.

The Terrorists blowing up restaurants and killing innocent people in Iraq are also criminals--to be sure. They are the indignant dumb ba$tards that want their sovereignty back--and the US out of Iraq.

War hawks well understand the mind-set of these terrorists. They are unwavering and unwilling to solve things through peaceful means. For them there is only one course of action--the one that will never solve anything.

In Spain there is new hope for sanity. The people of Spain won against corrupt policies of unjustified agression.

And even in-the-face of agression against them--their choice was not to escalate the madness.

It takes great courage to do that!

Let that be a lesson for us.

Cheers to the people of Spain.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Q36ExplosiveSpaceModulator

It's an off-topic diversion in this thread. Put it in a new thread. I'll be happy to discuss it there.

Point taken. Fair enough, and IMHO it's a good enough topic for another thread.

* EDIT * Evidently Cad thought so too, and so your wish is granted. new thread.

I figured if he really stands behind his word he will vote and explain why. But it still doesn't mean the point can't be brought back into this thread. The discussion may belong elsewhere but the point can and will be used here.

CkG

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Q36ExplosiveSpaceModulator

It's an off-topic diversion in this thread. Put it in a new thread. I'll be happy to discuss it there.

Point taken. Fair enough, and IMHO it's a good enough topic for another thread.

* EDIT * Evidently Cad thought so too, and so your wish is granted. new thread.

BTW, it's the pew-36ESM

Thought you would want to know that.