Confessions of a Tea Party Casualty

[Jaskalas]

He voted against the surge (Iraq).

So the guy is to the left of McCain. He'd do well to stamp a D on his name and get welcomed into the "big tent".

 

[hal2kilo]

And yet Democrats have put into place systems that encourage the least educated and least responsible to reproduce prodigiously. Want more government money? Have more kids!

Well done Democrats. Well done.

Paint with a broad brush much. Oh, yeah, you're an equal opportunity bitcher because you're a non-partisan libertarian, lol.

Ask the pro-lifers! I see no problem with sterilization if you're on welfare. Surprised!

 

[ShawnD1]

Abortion is legal, if you hadn't noticed. It apparently doesn't stop teenage hoodrats from cranking out kids.

It might have something to do with the fact that right wingers put a ridiculous amount of red tape around abortions.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_supr.htm

There have been many attempts since 1973 to reduce free access to abortions. Laws have been passed by some states and at the federal level to:
-Require counseling and/or a cooling-off period before an abortion is performed.
-Require an underage woman to notify, or obtain permission, from a parent, guardian or court.
-End government financial support for women in poverty who seek abortions.
-Ban abortions after viability of the fetus unless required to preserve the woman's life or health.

Some states require a 24 hour period to think things through after the woman has seen the abortion doctor, so the woman needs to see the doctor a minimum of 2 times and none of this is covered by medicaid. If Laquisha doesn't have a few hundred dollars kicking around, then she can't have an abortion because it's unaffordable.
Women under 18 also have trouble getting abortions because they need written consent from their crazy religious right wing parents.

Right wingers try to get in the way of abortion in every way possible. They try to restrict zoning laws, they put up impossible standards for abortion clinics, they protest the clinics, they publicly shame women for having abortions, and they try to make abortions as unaffordable and inconvenient as possible. Right wingers want poor people to have a shitload of kids that put a huge burden on society. If that wasn't their goal, then they wouldn't be doing any of the things that they currently are doing.

Not only do right wingers stand against abortion, but they're against general sex education. This is why red states have the highest rates of teen pregnancy. They know this abstinence-only approach does not work, but they keep doing it because abstinence was never their goal. Their goal is fuck up the country by flooding it with unwanted children.

http://womensissues.about.com/od/datingandsex/a/TeenPregStates.htm

States ranked by rates of live births among women age 15-19 (births per thousand):

1. Mississippi (71)
2. Texas (69)
3. Arizona (67)
4. Arkansas (66)
5. New Mexico (66)
6. Georgia (63)
7. Louisiana (62)
8. Nevada (61)
9. Alabama (61)
10. Oklahoma (60)

Well would you look at that. All 10 states with the highest birth rate to teen mothers all happen to be red states and here you're trying to tell me that conservatives are against poor people having fuckloads of welfare babies? Really?

 

[BoberFett]

Paint with a broad brush much. Oh, yeah, you're an equal opportunity bitcher because you're a non-partisan libertarian, lol.

Ask the pro-lifers! I see no problem with sterilization if you're on welfare. Surprised!

I never claimed to be non-partisan. I'm highly partisan. In fact I think Democrats and Republicans are all a bunch of fucksticks.

And if you ever get such a requirement for welfare recipients you'll see myself and a lot of Republicans right beside you. What you won't get is Democrat support. They need those welfare babies more than anybody. That's their future voter!

 

[BoberFett]

Congratulations Shawn, you've proven, what exactly? That Republicans and Democrats are all assholes? I could have told you that.

 

[JSt0rm]

What you won't get is Democrat support. They need those welfare babies more than anybody. That's their future voter!

uh. I think democrats are prochoice by large. Wouldnt this mean they are killing off their future voting block?

 

[hal2kilo]

I never claimed to be non-partisan. I'm highly partisan. In fact I think Democrats and Republicans are all a bunch of fucksticks.

And if you ever get such a requirement for welfare recipients you'll see myself and a lot of Republicans right beside you. What you won't get is Democrat support. They need those welfare babies more than anybody. That's their future voter!

So sad that you actually believe that. It's probably true on the local level in some urban areas but this welfare buying votes constituancy crap gets old. I can't think of a less reliable voting block. After all they are all on crack or smack. Are they dangling rocks and balloons of smack at the polling booth? All this ACORN nonsense.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

And you liberals want us to live by Sharia Law. I defend your right to that belief though!

Still waiting on FNE to defend his blatant ignorant and bigoted comment above. Typical that he thread-craps and and runs away since he can't defend something like that. Typical of a idiot troll.

 

[hal2kilo]

Still waiting on FNE to defend his blatant ignorant and bigoted comment above. Typical that he thread-craps and and runs away since he can't defend something like that. Typical of a idiot troll.

We're only liberals because we hate America, don't ya know.

 

[woolfe9999]

So sad that you actually believe that. It's probably true on the local level in some urban areas but this welfare buying votes constituancy crap gets old. I can't think of a less reliable voting block. After all they are all on crack or smack. Are they dangling rocks and balloons of smack at the polling booth? All this ACORN nonsense.

Indeed. It seems that the lower the income, the lower the chance of registering, and the lower the liklihood of voting once registered.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p20-562.pdf

- wolf

 

[ShawnD1]

Congratulations Shawn, you've proven, what exactly? That Republicans and Democrats are all assholes? I could have told you that.

In short, the extreme right wingers can't bitch about how expensive education is when their whacked out pro-life and abstinence-only politics are the reason schools are so overcrowded to begin with.

 

[BoberFett]

In short, the extreme right wingers can't bitch about how expensive education is when their whacked out pro-life and abstinence-only politics are the reason schools are so overcrowded to begin with.

You think that if there were a free abortion machine on every street corner that it would reduce the number of teenagers having children? There's no hope for you.

 

[Jhhnn]

You think that if there were a free abortion machine on every street corner that it would reduce the number of teenagers having children? There's no hope for you.

Strawman much?

 

[BoberFett]

Strawman much?

Unless we're talking about you and what your head is full of, then no. The argument was that teenagers only have babies because those nasty Republicans won't let them get abortions. Fact is, young girls in poor areas have babies for many reasons, none of which have anything to do with availability of abortions, or lack thereof because of conservative scheming.

 

[Jhhnn]

Unless we're talking about you and what your head is full of, then no. The argument was that teenagers only have babies because those nasty Republicans won't let them get abortions. Fact is, young girls in poor areas have babies for many reasons, none of which have anything to do with availability of abortions, or lack thereof because of conservative scheming.

More strawman, with bonus ad hom. You mischaracterize the point you argue against, claiming that ShawnD1 said the "only" reason teens have babies is because conservatives restrict abortion. That's not what he said. He said that such restrictions and abstinence only sex-ed add to the number of live births among teens.

That makes sense, whether you want it to or not. Your claim that limited abortion availability has nothing to do with it runs counter to common sense and the statistical evidence he presents.

I'm sure you won't allow any of that to interfere with adherence to your bigoted opinion, however. "Hoodrats" kinda gives it away...

 

[Hacp]

Liberals - the school system is broken because it needs at least 30 administrators in a school with only 400 students

Conservatives - the school system is broken because it has too many blacks and because the gubment can't do anything right

Reality - the school works fine and parents are retarded

Conservatives: The school system is broken because we use most of the money on Union pensions and salaries. We also spend too much money on our dumb kids when we should be spending the majority on the brightest kids.

 

[Hacp]

In short, the extreme right wingers can't bitch about how expensive education is when their whacked out pro-life and abstinence-only politics are the reason schools are so overcrowded to begin with.

The answer is simple. Kick anyone who isn't up to the challenge out of school. We're spending the same amount of money on the kid at the top of his class as we are spending on the kid that is an inch from failing. Our priorities are messed up.

 

[ShawnD1]

Conservatives: The school system is broken because we use most of the money on Union pensions and salaries. We also spend too much money on our dumb kids when we should be spending the majority on the brightest kids.

I was reading this reply in my email and I was going to respond with "only hacp says that" then I click the thread and find that it really was hacp who posted. I'm laughin my ass off right now

 

[CallMeJoe]

Conservatives: The school system is broken because we use most of the money on Union pensions and salaries. We also spend too much money on our dumb kids when we should be spending the majority on the brightest kids.

Arguing against your own interests again, eh?

 

[hal2kilo]

Arguing against your own interests again, eh?

Endlessly it seems.

 

[feralkid]

Parents get a healthy portion of the blame, of course when you get in there and boil it down to why, the loony left usually runs to "product of their environment", or "unequal opportunity", and only actually like blaming parents when it's convenient.

Has it occurred to you that parents are the ones providing the "environment"?

 

[hal2kilo]

The answer is simple. Kick anyone who isn't up to the challenge out of school. We're spending the same amount of money on the kid at the top of his class as we are spending on the kid that is an inch from failing. Our priorities are messed up.

Yea, there is always some flunky factory job for them to go to.

Oh yea, I guess not, we have a service sector (paper pushers, monery spinners) economy now.

 

[JS80]

Are you really this stupid? If you want to attract quality teachers, you don't pay them minimum wage. You'll end up with schools worse than they already are. Don't go cheap on schools if you want to improve this country.

This is false. The higher the salary range you set for teachers, the more idiots you attract to want to become teachers. All economists know this.

 

[ShawnD1]

This is false. The higher the salary range you set for teachers, the more idiots you attract to want to become teachers. All economists know this.

That's pretty true. It's best to shoot for the middle. People who want to teach will not be driven off by bad wages. People who are in it for the money will find something else more profitable.

If teachers make 30k per year, then it becomes everyone's backup plan. Only the people who fail at life become teachers.
If teachers make 300k per year, it's the top priority of everyone who loves money but doesn't give a shit about teaching.

 

[sandorski]

This is false. The higher the salary range you set for teachers, the more idiots you attract to want to become teachers. All economists know this.

Well, that explains the ridiculass salaries of CEOs.