Confessions of a Tea Party Casualty

[hal2kilo]

Yea, because government works real good now. Funding for schools should be based on performance. If the school constantly cranks out shitbags, and has a bunch of substandard teachers it must go.

Should we fire their parents also?

 

[GuitarDaddy]

What I don't get is that the reports I've read on the demographics of the tea party indicate that as a group they're significantly better educated than average. If that's true, where does this embracing of ignorance come from? How can intelligent people be so stupid?

I don't think its stupidity as much as it's greed and selfishness, they truly beleive they will be better off with these misquided policies

 

[WHAMPOM]

None of this could be embellished or made up though? Someone gets defeated and suddenly everything he says about his opponent is true? If you can link for me him saying Obama was not a socialist and Tea Party people are racists and anti-semites before the election I might agree. Was he slamming Sarah Palin's ignorance before the election or only after?

But yes, I totally agree.. most Tea Party people think that your social security # is the bank that bought you.. Just like most liberals are all think Bush planned and executed 9/11 but was too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Liburls think the sock puppet planned 911, gotta spell that right. Yo' make a funny, man!

 

[ShawnD1]

Should we fire their parents also?

Shawn's final soluton to bad parents:

What's fucked is how so many people don't seem to get why schools crank out shitbags. Why do a bunch of Asian immigrant students learn so much at the exact same schools? Isn't that some indication that the school works fine and the parents are 99% of the problem?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Finally we agree on something. People are finally waking up to the fact that hope and change was a bunch of bullshit and Obama is not the messiah everyone thought he was. He is a false prophet, engulfed with self-hate.
__________________

You are an idiot. In fact you have a lot in common with Sarah Palin!!

You are still crying that a Republican is not the POTUS!!
Get over already!!

 

[xj0hnx]

Should we fire their parents also?

Parents get a healthy portion of the blame, of course when you get in there and boil it down to why, the loony left usually runs to "product of their environment", or "unequal opportunity", and only actually like blaming parents when it's convenient.

 

[ShawnD1]

Parents get a healthy portion of the blame, of course when you get in there and boil it down to why, the loony left usually runs to "product of their environment", or "unequal opportunity", and only actually like blaming parents when it's convenient.

Liberals - the school system is broken because it needs at least 30 administrators in a school with only 400 students

Conservatives - the school system is broken because it has too many blacks and because the gubment can't do anything right

Reality - the school works fine and parents are retarded

 

[xj0hnx]

Liberals - the school system is broken because it needs at least 30 administrators in a school with only 400 students

Conservatives - the school system is broken because it has too many blacks and because the gubment can't do anything right

Reality - the school works fine and parents are retarded

The schools hardly "work fine". Some do, some don't, just like some parents give a shit, and some don't. blanket statements are bad mmkay.

 

[Amused]

The schools hardly "work fine". Some do, some don't, just like some parents give a shit, and some don't. blanket statements are bad mmkay.

He's pretty much right, though. A good parent can make up for a broken school, but no matter how good a school is, it will never make up for a broken parent.

It's long past time the vast majority of the blame is laid at the feet of those who deserve it: Parents. Personal responsibility is just that, personal.

 

[xj0hnx]

He's pretty much right, though. A good parent can make up for a broken school, but no matter how good a school is, it will never make up for a broken parent.

It's long past time the vast majority of the blame is laid at the feet of those who deserve it: Parents. Personal responsibility is just that, personal.

Like I said, I agree, but that doesn't give a free pass to bad schools/teachers.

 

[ShawnD1]

The schools hardly "work fine". Some do, some don't, just like some parents give a shit, and some don't. blanket statements are bad mmkay.

Ok some schools really are bad, but most are not bad. Not including obvious factors like accidental pregnancy or mental retardation, the graduation rate is most strongly influenced by parents. I know quite a few people who never graduated high school or never finished university, and the recurring theme is how nobody stressed the importance of education.

Even money doesn't seem like it has any effect on education levels. One of my uncles is fairly well off and he runs a plastic company, but 2 of his 4 kids never finished high school. One kid went to college and dropped out. Only one kid actually finished university. They lived in a nice neighborhood, nice house, they have computers, internet, access to resources like the library, good school, etc. Even with all those advantages, they still sucked at school.
I don't think it would be a genetic cause since I'm related to these people but both my brother and myself finished university. A different uncle has 2 kids; one has a master's degree and one is a dentist. Another uncle has 4 kids; only 1 of them wanted to go to university.

The pattern I see is that families tend to be all or nothing. Either most of the kids are educated or most of the kids are not educated. You can speculate what would cause that, but my guess is the parenting style.

 

[woolfe9999]

What I don't get is that the reports I've read on the demographics of the tea party indicate that as a group they're significantly better educated than average. If that's true, where does this embracing of ignorance come from? How can intelligent people be so stupid?

Any sub-grouping of politically active people is probably "more educated" than the population mean. Careful about what conclusions you draw from statistics.

- wolf

 

[BoberFett]

What's fucked is how so many people don't seem to get why schools crank out shitbags. Why do a bunch of Asian immigrant students learn so much at the exact same schools? Isn't that some indication that the school works fine and the parents are 99% of the problem?

And yet Democrats have put into place systems that encourage the least educated and least responsible to reproduce prodigiously. Want more government money? Have more kids!

Well done Democrats. Well done.

 

[ShawnD1]

Any sub-grouping of politically active people is probably "more educated" than the population mean. Careful about what conclusions you draw from statistics.

- wolf

Depends what their education is. If you're a nurse, then you probably don't know shit about economics. That's why it's usually best to look at what people in that field think.

Probably the best example is stuff like evolution, global warming, and the holocaust. Do most biologists believe in evolution yes/no? Do most climate scientists support global warming yes/no? Do most historians think the holocaust happened yes/no?

If you have certain economic or social goals in mind, then you should be asking for the opinions of economists and sociologists.

 

[ShawnD1]

And yet Democrats have put into place systems that encourage the least educated and least responsible to reproduce prodigiously. Want more government money? Have more kids!

Well done Democrats. Well done.

The democrats are the ones telling everyone to abort children they can't take care of. It's the republicans who have the pro-life and pro-welfare-baby attitude.

 

[bfdd]

Bob Inglis voted for the financial bailout.. That alone is enough to get the real Tea Party pissed off enough to vote against him. He was an establishment Republican that only voted 'conservative' when it was establishment platform conservative (socially, not fiscally).

He was a lawmaker for 12 years.. a career politician.. There's nothing wrong with changing dirty diapers.

He made no attempt to understand the Tea Party.. He generalized them as a bunch of 'Glenn Beck' watchers. Now he is bitter - a sore loser.. Meh.. fuck him.

Calling the Tea Party names won't make it go away.. making stupid generalizations about it won't make it go away either.

and that's what's wrong. you don't have to say anything more or look at anything this guy has done. he made a career out of being a politician, that's enough for me.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Hey, I found one of Inglis' constituents. Check this out:
http://www.viewzone.com/collateralx.html
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I actually heard one of Representative Inglis' constituents discussing this very issue on the afternoon Talk Radio drive-time show; he and the host were very concerned about why banks are issuing birth certificates and does this really mean we are all mortgaged at birth?

 

[Throckmorton]

and that's what's wrong. you don't have to say anything more or look at anything this guy has done. he made a career out of being a politician, that's enough for me.

How wise and insightful of you.

 

[nonlnear]

I actually heard one of Representative Inglis' constituents discussing this very issue on the afternoon Talk Radio drive-time show; he and the host were very concerned about why banks are issuing birth certificates and does this really mean we are all mortgaged at birth?

The sad thing is they are right that we are all mortgaged at birth, but only by accident. Not by the super-secret mechanisms they like to masturbate to on conspiracy blogs. We are all mortgaged at birth by the generally accepted notion (by those authorities with the power to force it to be thus) that a human being, for no reason other than that one draws breath, requires a national authority to claim rule over one's existence - and furthermore no sovereign nation may exist without being indebted indefinitely.

 

[sandorski]

The sad thing is they are right that we are all mortgaged at birth, but only by accident. Not by the super-secret mechanisms they like to masturbate to on conspiracy blogs. We are all mortgaged at birth by the generally accepted notion (by those authorities with the power to force it to be thus) that a human being, for no reason other than that one draws breath, requires a national authority to claim rule over one's existence - and furthermore no sovereign nation may exist without being indebted indefinitely.

History is the reason for this. When there haven't been Authorities ones life was worth jack squat. Hell, even today where Authorities are Weak ones life is worth jack squat.

It's always entertaining to philosophize about such things. However, when it comes right down to it, the idea of Complete Freedom from Authority will never work. What needs to be strived for is a good balance between Freedom and Authority. Something the US FFs did quite well and the rest of the West and many others have adopted in various forms.

 

[nonlnear]

History is the reason for this. When there haven't been Authorities ones life was worth jack squat. Hell, even today where Authorities are Weak ones life is worth jack squat.

It's always entertaining to philosophize about such things. However, when it comes right down to it, the idea of Complete Freedom from Authority will never work. What needs to be strived for is a good balance between Freedom and Authority. Something the US FFs did quite well and the rest of the West and many others have adopted in various forms.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no anarchist. I was simply making an observation.

 

[CallMeJoe]

The sad thing is they are right that we are all mortgaged at birth...

I could have worded that better. Their concern seemed to be that we were somehow "owned" by the bank that "issued the paper" on us.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Are you really this stupid? If you want to attract quality teachers, you don't pay them minimum wage. You'll end up with schools worse than they already are. Don't go cheap on schools if you want to improve this country.

THIS!

But, alas, it looks like Hacp has already gone through a school with minimum-wage teachers...

 

[ayabe]

The democrats are the ones telling everyone to abort children they can't take care of. It's the republicans who have the pro-life and pro-welfare-baby attitude.

No as with everything they just don't know what they want and their policies are just hypocritical BS.

You cannot abort that child it's life is precious.....until it's actually born, then you're on your own kid.

What's that? You were born to a single mother? Well it's time to bootstrap it kid, don't be lazy.

 

[BoberFett]

The democrats are the ones telling everyone to abort children they can't take care of. It's the republicans who have the pro-life and pro-welfare-baby attitude.

You mean the Republicans who would eliminate welfare if they could? Yes, I'm sure they're at fault.

Abortion is legal, if you hadn't noticed. It apparently doesn't stop teenage hoodrats from cranking out kids.