Confessions of a Tea Party Casualty

[GarfieldtheCat]

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Interview with Bob Inglis, who lost because of the tea party, despite having a 93/100 rating on conservative voting.

Some choice quotes:

I sat down, and they said on the back of your Social Security card, there's a number. That number indicates the bank that bought you when you were born based on a projection of your life's earnings, and you are collateral. We are all collateral for the banks. I have this look like, "What the heck are you talking about?" I'm trying to hide that look and look clueless. I figured clueless was better than argumentative. So they said, "You don't know this?! You are a member of Congress, and you don't know this?!" And I said, "Please forgive me. I'm just ignorant of these things." And then of course, it turned into something about the Federal Reserve and the Bilderbergers and all that stuff. And now you have the feeling of anti-Semitism here coming in, mixing in. Wow.

Wow is right, I can't imagine trying to not say anything with such a whacked theory.

The word is designed to have emotional charge to it. Throughout my primary, there were people insisting that I use the word. They would ask me if he was a socialist, and I would always find some other word. I'd say, "President Obama wants a very large government that I don't think will work and that spends too much and it's inefficient and it compromises freedom and it's not the way we want to go." They would listen for the word, wait to see if I used the s-word, and when I didn't, you could see the disappointment.

And he had the guts to not lie and call Obama a socialist.

Instead, he remarks, his party turned toward demagoguery. Inglis lists the examples: falsely claiming Obama's health care overhaul included "death panels," raising questions about Obama's birthplace, calling the president a socialist, and maintaining that the Community Reinvestment Act was a major factor of the financial meltdown. "CRA," Inglis says, "has been around for decades. How could it suddenly create this problem? You see how that has other things worked into it?" Racism? "Yes," Inglis says.

He called it 100% correct. The Republicans are selling their soul to get votes, and don't care how much they lie, or if these lies will do long-term harm to the country.

What about Sarah Palin? Inglis pauses for a moment: "I think that there are people who seem to think that ignorance is strength." And he says of her: "If I choose to remain ignorant and uninformed and encourage people to follow me while I celebrate my lack of information," that's not responsible.

Bingo, he called it right on Palin as well. Obviously this guy is way too honest to be a republican. It's pathetic that the republican party has fallen this low.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's pathetic that the republican party has fallen this low.

It really happened a long time ago, it just took letting them actually have their way during the bush years for it to be revealed. The whackiness of many republican and file, including the tea party, happens because they're caught in a bind between what they believe and the truth itself... They can't admit to themselves that they've been blued, screwed and tatooed by the people they trust the most, and they'll go to increasingly extraordinary lengths to prevent that sort of realization forming in their own minds.

 

[hal2kilo]

It really happened a long time ago, it just took letting them actually have their way during the bush years for it to be revealed. The whackiness of many republican and file, including the tea party, happens because they're caught in a bind between what they believe and the truth itself... They can't admit to themselves that they've been blued, screwed and tatooed by the people they trust the most, and they'll go to increasingly extraordinary lengths to prevent that sort of realization forming in their own minds.

And they call liberals idealogs.

 

[JSt0rm]

the tea party was just cleansing the base of brains.

 

[Fear No Evil]

None of this could be embellished or made up though? Someone gets defeated and suddenly everything he says about his opponent is true? If you can link for me him saying Obama was not a socialist and Tea Party people are racists and anti-semites before the election I might agree. Was he slamming Sarah Palin's ignorance before the election or only after?

But yes, I totally agree.. most Tea Party people think that your social security # is the bank that bought you.. Just like most liberals are all think Bush planned and executed 9/11 but was too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time.

 

[Moonbeam]

America is awakening from a tremendous case of stupidity. This is going to piss off the most stupid.

 

[Fear No Evil]

America is awakening from a tremendous case of stupidity. This is going to piss off the most stupid.

Finally we agree on something. People are finally waking up to the fact that hope and change was a bunch of bullshit and Obama is not the messiah everyone thought he was. He is a false prophet, engulfed with self-hate.

 

[JSt0rm]

Finally we agree on something. People are finally waking up to the fact that hope and change was a bunch of bullshit and Obama is not the messiah everyone thought he was. He is a false prophet, engulfed with self-hate.

lololol u r so dumb

 

[CallMeJoe]

None of this could be embellished or made up though? Someone gets defeated and suddenly everything he says about his opponent is true? If you can link for me him saying Obama was not a socialist and Tea Party people are racists and anti-semites before the election I might agree. Was he slamming Sarah Palin's ignorance before the election or only after?
But yes, I totally agree.. most Tea Party people think that your social security # is the bank that bought you.. Just like most liberals are all think Bush planned and executed 9/11 but was too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time.

I know, FNE, Representative Inglis said some Tea Party members are racists; he must be a closet Liberal, because only Liberals lie about the Tea Party by playing the Race Card. Maybe you think he's an NAACP mole, too? I'm sure he had to be lying about some Tea Party members who held irrational fears, because we know all Tea Party activists are without flaw.

One of Bob Inglis' biggest problems was that he dares question Republican Dogma. He questioned the Tea Party activist who told him to keep the government's damned hands off his Medicare. He said there might be something to MMGW, so it was reasonable to explore alternative lower-carbon energy. He said the Republicans needed to try to work with the Democratic majority if they could find any common ground, for the good of the nation.

All this, of course, was anathema in Jim Deminted territory.

He wasn't quite this open in his criticism during the campaign, but to those of us in his district who have actually talked to him, this is no surprise.

 

[Fear No Evil]

I know, FNE, Representative Inglis said some Tea Party members are racists; he must be a closet Liberal, because only Liberals lie about the Tea Party by playing the Race Card. Maybe you think he's an NAACP mole, too? I'm sure he had to be lying about some Tea Party members who held irrational fears, because we know all Tea Party activists are without flaw.

One of Bob Inglis' biggest problems was that he dares question Republican Dogma. He questioned the Tea Party activist who told him to keep the government's damned hands off his Medicare. He said there might be something to MMGW, so it was reasonable to explore alternative lower-carbon energy. He said the Republicans needed to try to work with the Democratic majority if they could find any common ground, for the good of the nation.

All this, of course, was anathema in Jim Deminted territory.

He wasn't quite this open in his criticism during the campaign, but to those of us in his district who have actually talked to him, this is no surprise.

Where did I say he is a liberal? I have no doubt he is probably a fairly solid conservative. I question his sudden need to point out racism, anti-semitism, and Sarah Palin after he loses. I'm guessing if he had won, he wouldn't be saying the same things.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Where did I say he is a liberal? I have no doubt he is probably a fairly solid conservative. I question his sudden need to point out racism, anti-semitism, and Sarah Palin after he loses. I'm guessing if he had won, he wouldn't be saying the same things.

My apologies, sir. I made an unfair assumption based on your usual rabid partisanship and general trollishness.
In the future I shall endeavor to wait until your foot is actually in your mouth before I question you on the taste of your toes.

 

[Fear No Evil]

My apologies, sir. I made an unfair assumption based on your usual rabid partisanship and general trollishness.
In the future I shall endeavor to wait until your foot is actually in your mouth before I question you on the taste of your toes.

You know, everyone here says you are an asshole. I have to disagree. You seem like a nice guy. Keep your head up.

 

[Zebo]

It's pathetic that the republican party has fallen this low.

Why is that pathetic? They want to go back to 1880's - no pubic schools, no SS, No medicare, no income tax, no nothing but enumerated powers found in Article 2 section 8.

My Dad is like this and he's quite sane and smart. It's just a philosophical difference.

I don't defend their policy I'm a liberal economically but I defend their right to express opinion and philosophy too.

 

[senseamp]

It's hard to be the one sane guy in GOP.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Why is that pathetic? They want to go back to 1880's - no pubic schools, no SS, No medicare, no income tax, no nothing but enumerated powers found in Article 2 section 8.

My Dad is like this and he's quite sane and smart. It's just a philosophical difference.

I don't defend their policy I'm a liberal economically but I defend their right to express opinion and philosophy too.

And you liberals want us to live by Sharia Law. I defend your right to that belief though!

 

[Hacp]

Why is that pathetic? They want to go back to 1880's - no pubic schools, no SS, No medicare, no income tax, no nothing but enumerated powers found in Article 2 section 8.

My Dad is like this and he's quite sane and smart. It's just a philosophical difference.

I don't defend their policy I'm a liberal economically but I defend their right to express opinion and philosophy too.

I have no problem with public schools, medicare, income tax and SS. The price of these things however is stupid. Public schools are fine as long as we pay teachers and people who work there a low wage. Same with medicare. As long as the price is cheap, it is fine. SS and Income tax are fine too, as long as SS payments and income tax rates are low.

Now what makes all these things super expensive? Baby boomer dinosaurs who are part of government unions that want younger people to pay their Medicare, SS, and government issued pensions.

If all the baby boomers disappear tomorrow, our country would be in better shape than if they didn't disappear.

 

[Zebo]

Here is real tea party platform - Obviously Inglis was too liberal and had to go.

The Contract lists 10 agenda items that it encourages congressional candidates to follow:[75][76]

1. Identify constitutionality of every new law: Require each bill to identify the specific provision of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does. (82.03&#37 That takes care of public schools, medicare, income tax, SS and more.
2. Reject emissions trading: Stop the "cap and trade" administrative approach used to control pollution by providing economic incentives for achieving reductions in the emissions of pollutants. (72.20%)
3. Demand a balanced federal budget: Begin the Constitutional amendment process to require a balanced budget with a two-thirds majority needed for any tax modification. (69.69%)
4. Simplify the tax system: Adopt a simple and fair single-rate tax system by scrapping the internal revenue code and replacing it with one that is no longer than 4,543 words – the length of the original Constitution. (64.9%)
5. Audit federal government agencies for constitutionality: Create a Blue Ribbon taskforce that engages in an audit of federal agencies and programs, assessing their Constitutionality, and identifying duplication, waste, ineffectiveness, and agencies and programs better left for the states or local authorities. (63.37%)
6. Limit annual growth in federal spending: Impose a statutory cap limiting the annual growth in total federal spending to the sum of the inflation rate plus the percentage of population growth. (56.57%)
7. Repeal the health care legislation passed on March 23, 2010: Defund, repeal and replace the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. (56.39%)
8. Pass an 'All-of-the-Above' Energy Policy: Authorize the exploration of additional energy reserves to reduce American dependence on foreign energy sources and reduce regulatory barriers to all other forms of energy creation. (55.5%)
9. Reduce Earmarks: Place a moratorium on all earmarks until the budget is balanced, and then require a 2/3 majority to pass any earmark. (55.47%)
10. Reduce Taxes: Permanently repeal all recent tax increases, and extend permanently the George W. Bush temporary reductions in income tax, capital gains tax and estate taxes, currently scheduled to end in 2011. (53.38%)

 

[dawp]

I have no problem with public schools, medicare, income tax and SS. The price of these things however is stupid. Public schools are fine as long as we pay teachers and people who work there a low wage. Same with medicare. As long as the price is cheap, it is fine. SS and Income tax are fine too, as long as SS payments and income tax rates are low.

Now what makes all these things super expensive? Baby boomer dinosaurs who are part of government unions that want younger people to pay their Medicare, SS, and government issued pensions.

If all the baby boomers disappear tomorrow, our country would be in better shape than if they didn't disappear.

Are you really this stupid? If you want to attract quality teachers, you don't pay them minimum wage. You'll end up with schools worse than they already are. Don't go cheap on schools if you want to improve this country.

 

[irishScott]

The tea party is the Conservative NAACP with more balls.

 

[ShawnD1]

The tea party is the Conservative NAACP with more balls.

The tea party is a liberal conspiracy to make conservatives look bad. I refuse to believe that any of these teabaggers are for real.

Here are some teabag ideas we've seen and heard before. There's no way any of these real. It's just not possible.
-"get big government out of my medicare"
-government employees who insult themselves by saying all government employees are retarded (usually military people saying this, and our very own Spidey07)
-people receiving farm subsidies then complaining about other people sucking on the government tits

 

[CallMeJoe]

You know, everyone here says you are an asshole. I have to disagree. You seem like a nice guy. Keep your head up.

I must disagree; I am indeed an asshole of the first order.

At least, unlike you, I have the saving graces of a modicum of wit and intelligence.

 

[SammyJr]

Are you really this stupid? If you want to attract quality teachers, you don't pay them minimum wage. You'll end up with schools worse than they already are. Don't go cheap on schools if you want to improve this country.

That's the point and part of the Republican agenda. They want all Government employees to make minimum wage/part time like a Wal-mart slave. Then, when all they can get are Wal-mart quality workers, they can bitch about how Government doesn't work and demand more votes to help "improve" Government by further slashing costs.

 

[Red Dawn]

If all the baby boomers disappear tomorrow, our country would be in better shape than if they didn't disappear.

I don't see your generation making any significant contributions to the well being of our country..unless you consider whining a contribution.

 

[Hacp]

Are you really this stupid? If you want to attract quality teachers, you don't pay them minimum wage. You'll end up with schools worse than they already are. Don't go cheap on schools if you want to improve this country.

Quality is hard to determine in a system without supply and demand. Thats why you should have a two tiered system. One system where you hire average teachers and pay them the median US wage and another system that is private and not publically funded where teachers can be paid whatever the hell they want. The quality teachers will still teach and educate students if the private system deems them worthy of their salaries. In the end, you have the same amount of quality teachers teaching students but you have a two tiered cost structure where the best teachers are paid the most while average teachers are paid like average citizens.

Edit: And no, student evaluations are not a good indicator of the quality of a teacher. Test scores may indicate the quality of a teacher but it may not if the teacher is given a rough hand. You need a system of supply and demand where teachers are free to be hired and fired at will in order to determine who the quality ones are.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Why is that pathetic? They want to go back to 1880's - no pubic schools, no SS, No medicare, no income tax, no nothing but enumerated powers found in Article 2 section 8.

My Dad is like this and he's quite sane and smart. It's just a philosophical difference.

I don't defend their policy I'm a liberal economically but I defend their right to express opinion and philosophy too.

You might think that racism, bigotry, and total continuous lying to the public is OK, but hopefully, you are in the minority.