Comcast's 6 Strike Rule started this Wednesday

[Wyndru]

This has nothing to do with comcast. All ISP's are enforcing this (at least a majority of them are). Not sure if they are all handling it the same.

Apparently, these are the ISP's that have publicly said they will participate in a "6 strikes" type system:
AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon.

The info came from torrentfreak, so it might not be 100% valid, but dslreports states a similar thing on their page.

 

[Jeffg010]

I don't understand why you guys even use comcast. I never hear anything good about them.

Ya but when they are the only one that can give you high speed then what? Lucky for me I have Fios too but they are doing the same thing. So now what satellite? Everything I heard from satellite was much slower speeds.

 

[randomrogue]

A VPN can't get around this?

 

[Wyndru]

I just struck out

Twice :awe:

 

[lxskllr]

Ya but when they are the only one that can give you high speed then what? Lucky for me I have Fios too but they are doing the same thing. So now what satellite? Everything I heard from satellite was much slower speeds.

Expense and latency are the real killers with satellite. Dialup is better for some use cases.

 

[Jeffg010]

A VPN can't get around this?

Which VPN? I keep hearing people say this but never which one to use. You think the VPN you use is going to keep quite if the feds said give up the logs.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I dont honestly think VPN's can, unless they are encrypted because at that point it's illegal for them to sniff the data, however, this is government and big business we're talking about, and as we see, they do what they want. I simply would not trust any outside VPN to not give my information over if forced even if they claim they don't keep it. You are paying for the service, there is a paper trail.

I'm less concerned about what I am doing and more concerned about what other people are doing in my name.

 

[lxskllr]

A VPN can't get around this?

Yes, a VPN can. One could also choose the darker side of the web, which is what I advocate. Things have been growing too clustered, with failure points approaching one. The internet needs to go in the opposite direction, with more decentralization.

 

[Jimzz]

Which VPN? I keep hearing people say this but never which one to use. You think the VPN you use is going to keep quite if the feds said give up the logs.

I hear there are foreign VPNs. Then also run through a foreign proxy?


:hmm:

 

[lothar]

A VPN can't get around this?

Many VPNs save logs, meaning they can still turn them over to the Feds or RIAA and MPAA lawyers.

Just use an overseas Newsgroups server and be done with.

 

[randomrogue]

So back in the days of Napster, when the government started getting it's panties in a bunch, people simply got around it by downloading at libraries, universities, and other high speed internet locations that weren't your own. People amassed huge libraries of data and simply shared hard drives. Before that we just burned CD's and shared them. Before that we burned disks and shared them.

They can't stop piracy. This is just government catering to big business lobbyists.

 

[lxskllr]

They can't stop piracy. This is just government catering to big business lobbyists.

In this case, it isn't the government. It's a private agreement amongst the media cartel. ISPs have a vested interest in copyright since many of them are owned or connected with with big media distribution.

 

[techs]

In this case, it isn't the government. It's a private agreement amongst the media cartel. ISPs have a vested interest in copyright since many of them are owned or connected with with big media distribution.

There could actually be cases of NBC, which is owned by Comcast, of reporting illegal downloading to Comcast.

Hmm.

I guess that's if anyone cared enough to actually download anything that NBC airs.

 

[MadScientist]

I don't understand why you guys even use comcast. I never hear anything good about them.

It's the only high speed ISP available where I live.

I had Suddenlink before up in WV. They had/have a 3 strike rule and then shut your internet down for 6 months. http://torrentfreak.com/us-isp-disconnects-alleged-pirates-for-6-months-100924/

 

[spinejam]

I hear there are foreign VPNs. Then also run through a foreign proxy?


:hmm:

Well, this one opens Yahoo.com_Romania for my home page. :biggrin:

http://www.vpnbook.com/

 

[shortylickens]

I don't understand why you guys even use comcast. I never hear anything good about them.

A lot of people dont have options.

We were so damn lucky when FIOS moved into town. People left cable in droves. It was actually kind of funny. We waited a whole week before cancelling. By the time we got their they had huge piles of cable modems and boxes stacked up to the ceiling. You couldnt even safely walk in to return your gear, much less get to the window and fill out the forms.

 

[VoteQuimby]

torproject.org ... and you're done.

 

[Jeffg010]

torproject.org ... and you're done.

I have used TOR but it slow as crap. If tor had speeds it be worth it.

 

[lxskllr]

I have used TOR but it slow as crap. If tor had speeds it be worth it.

Tor isn't made for sharing files. It doesn't work, and it's abuse of the system. i2p is better for file sharing, but like Tor, is very slow. There also isn't a whole lot there. It's like the early web, where it starts with nothing, and gets built over time. The way to build it, is to use it and participate. Speed is a convenience; a trivial convenience. Freedom, anonymity, and privacy are far more important, and will get people farther than playing games with the existing system by using VPNs, Usenet, or whatever. You don't beat people at their game. You beat them by playing your game, with your rules.

 

[exdeath]

Encryption. /thread

 

[lxskllr]

Encryption. /thread

Encryption is good. Everything should be encrypted, but in this case, it doesn't help. The ISPs aren't doing DPI. They're getting notification from a monitoring company that someone with ip address X is downloading file Y, and they in turn send you a nastygram. All of this is exactly the way it's happened in the past, no changes. The only difference is they now follow a specific protocol on how to proceed.

VPNs are good for encryption, and it does move your ip address, but it provides a single failure point. Depending on all the particulars, that failure point can fail you.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Peerblock.

 

[lxskllr]

Peerblock.

Doesn't work. First off, it's reactive. "bad" ip addresses get published, then get put into a blocklist. What happens to the ones don't get published for awhile, or at all? That also doesn't cover home connections. You might have MediaSpy® blocked with your list, but what about a MediaSpy® employee tracking you from his comcast.net account at home? All he has to do is join some torrents from his house with logging enabled. You'd allow comcast customers to participate in the swarm, right?

 

[OverVolt]

This is going to make me spend money on music just like the RIAA wants, oh wait NOT.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Doesn't work. First off, it's reactive. "bad" ip addresses get published, then get put into a blocklist. What happens to the ones don't get published for awhile, or at all? That also doesn't cover home connections. You might have MediaSpy® blocked with your list, but what about a MediaSpy® employee tracking you from his comcast.net account at home? All he has to do is join some torrents from his house with logging enabled. You'd allow comcast customers to participate in the swarm, right?

lxskllr, too much info for his little mind. simply put, if he's illegally downloading then he's going to hell.