Colorado SC just disqualified Trump from the ballot using the Fourteenth Amendment Section 3 of the Constitution

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Lanyap

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I was reading an article on Yahoo News and it had a post by trump on untruth social. I clicked on the post and it took me to us. I didn’t realize his posts were public. Anyway, he’s ranting and raving with posts every few minutes. It’s interesting watching him have a come apart.




Of course one of his posts is requesting money from his rubes. He wants them to donate money, pay the processing fee so he can get 100% of their money, make it a monthly recurring donation and make an additional donation for a future effort. Now that’s what I call grifting the rubes. The donation site is slow loading. I don’t know if it’s his rubes or a DDoS attack from Dark Brandon.

{donation link deleted by popular request}
 
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eelw

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The worst part of all this circus is the CERTAIN knowledge that, if the tables were turned and it had been Biden and the Dems who had attempted such a coup, that the perpetrators would already have been hung en masse from the Capitol steps.
Important thing, Dems would hold their own accountable. Unlike the traitorous Repugnicans
 
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ivwshane

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I was reading an article on Yahoo News and it had a post by trump on untruth social. I clicked on the post and it took me to us. I didn’t realize his posts were public. Anyway, he’s ranting and raving with posts every few minutes. It’s interesting
watching him have a come apart.




Of course one of his posts is requesting money from his rubes. He wants them to donate money, pay the processing fee so he can get 100% of their money, make it a monthly recurring donation and make an additional donation for a future effort. Now that’s what I call grifting the rubes. The donation site is slow loading. I don’t know if it’s his rubes or a DDoS attack from Dark Brandon.

Wtf are you doing? Why would you post his donation request page?
 
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Charmonium

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I think anyone inclined to donate doesn't need the assist.

His campaign was sending fund raiser emails out to the faithful while he was onstage.
 
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Vic

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I think the worst part of all this is that had the electoral college done what the founding fathers intended them to do, Trump would have never been elected in the first place. If the electoral college could be counted on to do what the founding fathers intended them to do, no one would even have to worry about Trump being elected again.
The fault there IMO lies with the cap of only 435 seats in the House. Should be more like 1000.
 
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I think the worst part of all this is that had the electoral college done what the founding fathers intended them to do, Trump would have never been elected in the first place. If the electoral college could be counted on to do what the founding fathers intended them to do, no one would even have to worry about Trump being elected again.
It was clear even in the time of the founding fathers that the electoral college was not working as intended from the get go, but they never fixed it because states had greater power when they could vote as a winner-take-all block.
 

Young Grasshopper

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I'm sure the GOP appreciates your attempt to whitewash January 6th.

An insurrection requires neither guns nor a successful overthrow of the government. It's a revolt against civil authority or established government.

You are correct we're living in amazing times. Conservatives have lost their fucking minds and continue to support a narcissistic, lying con man.


insurrection - organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence:


Amazing how the Democrats can't come up with a decent opponent to actually beat Trump fair and square, so they will instead use the DOJ to charge him with bogus felonies in order to put him in jail and keep him off the ballot, as if were living in fucking Myanmar. That's what 'defending Democracy' looks like in people are who infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

It's also amazing how Democrats can't see how every legal hurdle they make Trump jump thru, it only makes his support amongst his base stronger. They know Biden is a senile buffoon and are panicking they don't have a strong candidate to run against Trump, so this is the sort of nonsense they resort to.

In the end, it's going to get quickly struck down by the SC, and just going to embolden his base.
 
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gothuevos

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Are you saying it's not true that Trump organized an attempted coup in order to remain in power after he lost the election?
Or that we should ignore such criminal activity in order to avoid offending the criminals?

The tweet you added to your post is inaccurate. There is no right to be allowed on a state ballot, and the court's decision does not affect Trump's life or liberty, so presumption of innocence does not apply.
Why is it that right-wing nutjobs know literally nothing about the Constitution they claim to love so dearly?

We all saw what happened on 1/6 but I have yet to see a conviction or even a charge of insurrection. This is a federal crime, isn't it? But a state supreme court gets to make that call?

You see the problem with this, don't you?

What if a red state throws Biden or a future Democrat off the ballot because of whatever they twist as insurrection (the border situation or the Hunter Biden dealings, for example).

What if a purple state with a Republican leaning state supreme court does it?
 
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Amazing how the MAGA crowd attempted an ‘insurrection’ and left their guns at home. Someone remind me again how it’s possible to overthrow a government without weapons? It was a protest that turned into a riot. Nothing more.

All this talk about ‘defending democracy’ by Democrats, all while using the legal system to go after their top political rival and keep him off the ballots.

We’re living in amazing times.
So uninformed. Just the way they like you.
 
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Are you saying it's not true that Trump organized an attempted coup in order to remain in power after he lost the election?
Or that we should ignore such criminal activity in order to avoid offending the criminals?

The tweet you added to your post is inaccurate. There is no right to be allowed on a state ballot, and the court's decision does not affect Trump's life or liberty, so presumption of innocence does not apply.
Why is it that right-wing nutjobs know literally nothing about the Constitution they claim to love so dearly?
It’s just like their bible. they just ignore the inconvenient parts.
 

BlueWeasel

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Oh really? Point me to an example where a government was overthrown without guns in modern times then...Ill wait.

And by that, you completely missed the point. Go read the definition of "insurrection". So because they didn't use guns, it's just a riot in your eyes. Nevermind the bear spray, MAGA flagpoles, or other solid objects used as weapons.

Not going to respond to the rest because:
  • it's typical MAGA talking points composed of idiotic drivel
  • More whitewashing
  • A waste of time
 
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insurrection - organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence:


Amazing how the Democrats can't come up with a decent opponent to actually beat Trump fair and square, so they will instead use the DOJ to charge him with bogus felonies in order to put him in jail and keep him off the ballot, as if were living in fucking Myanmar. That's what 'defending Democracy' looks like in people are who infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

It's also amazing how Democrats can't see how every legal hurdle they make Trump jump thru, it only makes his support amongst his base stronger. They know Biden is a senile buffoon and are panicking they don't have a strong candidate to run against Trump, so this is the sort of nonsense they resort to.

In the end, it's going to get quickly struck down by the SC, and just going to embolden his base.
Do you mean that weak candidate the dems fielded last time that beat Trump?
 
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Young Grasshopper

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Do you mean that weak candidate the dems fielded last time that beat Trump?


Ya go ahead and run him again with his plummeting approval rating now at 34 percent. One more percentage point and he will be below Trumps all time low.

With his ongoing fires in the Middle East and Ukraine, it will be a steady decline going forward. Good luck with that going into the election.

And good luck thinking Newsome would be a worthy replacement. No one wants the filth California is going thru wrecking their states with crime, homelessness and unaffordable housing wrecking the state. Republicans will just blanket the country with homelessness ads and crime sprees and he’ll be finished.
 

JTsyo

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Amazing how the MAGA crowd attempted an ‘insurrection’ and left their guns at home. Someone remind me again how it’s possible to overthrow a government without weapons? It was a protest that turned into a riot. Nothing more.

All this talk about ‘defending democracy’ by Democrats, all while using the legal system to go after their top political rival and keep him off the ballots.

We’re living in amazing times.
How convenient you forgot about the fake electors and GOP in Congress denying state electoral votes.

I don't know what the legal standard for this is? Does it require a conviction in a court of law? Or is a state supreme court allowed to just make this call?

Even the all Democrat CO supreme court was split 4-3.

Besides it's Colorado, what are they afraid of, Biden wins easy there.
This is for the primary too. Trump can probably still win without Colorado but it would be quite a handicap.

Interesting angle I saw on MSNBC, they were saying those in charge of the GOP might see this as a way to remove Trump using the SC. Unlikely but a possible political move.
 

Ken g6

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We all saw what happened on 1/6 but I have yet to see a conviction or even a charge of insurrection. This is a federal crime, isn't it? But a state supreme court gets to make that call?

You see the problem with this, don't you?

What if a red state throws Biden or a future Democrat off the ballot because of whatever they twist as insurrection (the border situation or the Hunter Biden dealings, for example).

What if a purple state with a Republican leaning state supreme court does it?
It concerns me, but insurrection is a high standard. The Hunter Biden stuff is claimed to be corruption, but not insurrection. The border situation? Are immigrants attempting to defeat the government?

On the other hand, it might make it easier for a red state court to claim other things that would disqualify a candidate, such as claiming Obama was from Kenya.
 

gothuevos

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It concerns me, but insurrection is a high standard. The Hunter Biden stuff is claimed to be corruption, but not insurrection. The border situation? Are immigrants attempting to defeat the government?

On the other hand, it might make it easier for a red state court to claim other things that would disqualify a candidate, such as claiming Obama was from Kenya.

That's my point...if there's no conviction needed, just a state supreme court's decision, then anything is fair game.

This is not the right way to do it IMO.
 
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Brovane

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That's my point...if there's no conviction needed, just a state supreme court's decision, then anything is fair game.

This is not the right way to do it IMO.

I agree, this isn't the right way to do it and it could really backfire in the future with red states kicking democrats of the ballot and blue states kicking republicans off the ballot. The correct way to deal with Trump is at the ballot box not through the courts. I mean if the Republicans want to nominate a convicted Felon for President, let them go down that road.
Are Democrats really that concerned that Biden is such a weak candidate that they need to legally remove Trump from the ballot before the election?
 
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Charmonium

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SCOTUS WILL take up this question plus the Dumpster's immunity claim. And if they want to be taken seriously (somewhat in doubt after Dobbs), they'll find against Trump on both.

Even the folks that still love Trump are starting to realize that for any of a virtually infinite number of reasons, he's toast. If you're in doubt, just look at Haley's poll numbers.