Colonic irrigation

[brandonbull]

if you don't eat ruffage or drink enough water, your bowls will "move" slowly and keep stuff in there for longer time periods.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: brandonbull
if you don't eat ruffage or drink enough water, your bowls will "move" slowly and keep stuff in there for longer time periods.

Indeed, but more recent studies have suggested the link between constipation and bowel cancer/etc is extremely tenuous at best...

 

[SophalotJack]

Originally posted by: brandonbull
if you don't eat ruffage or drink enough water, your bowls will "move" slowly and keep stuff in there for longer time periods.

Well I don't do either of those lately and I feel the effects... so it's time to get myself back on track.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: SophalotJack

Originally posted by: brandonbull
if you don't eat ruffage or drink enough water, your bowls will "move" slowly and keep stuff in there for longer time periods.

Well I don't do either of those lately and I feel the effects... so it's time to get myself back on track.

Try both of those before you try any 'hocus pocus' colonic irrigation products

Do some reading on how your intestines work after that, and you'll see that being alive and 'having stuff stuck to the inside of your intestines for years and years' don't exactly go hand in hand...

 

[vi edit]

It's a great way to flush out *GOOD* flora/bacteria that your body needs in there for digestion.

As for John Wayne, I'd say he mostly like had undiagnosed colon cancer. Seems like he had cancer everywhere else (lung, stomach, ect) and isn't exactly the epitome of health to compare ones self too.

If you want to stay clean, just make sure you are getting in at least 30 grams of fiber a day. It's natures way of methodically scrubbing your innards. These "flushes" go to far and get rid of things that really should stay.

 

[chusteczka]

It may be beneficial to consume yogurt after a bowel cleansing to quickly replace the good digestive bacteria that will be washed out.

 

[PottedMeat]

Originally posted by: TripleAAA
My dad went through some type of "liver cleansing" process.

Basically you eat a bunch of leafy green vegetables at first, then drink some water with epsom salt mixed in, and then take some L-Arginine pills (an amino acid) and it supposedly cleans a lot of the toxins from your liver. My dad said that on the 2nd or third day he was crapping out little black droplet things which were supposedly the crap stuck in his liver. After a while they started to turn white. The entire process is like 3-5 days long.

I dont think your liver is directly attached to any portion of your digestive tract.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
It's a great way to flush out *GOOD* flora/bacteria that your body needs in there for digestion.

As for John Wayne, I'd say he mostly like had undiagnosed colon cancer. Seems like he had cancer everywhere else (lung, stomach, ect) and isn't exactly the epitome of health to compare ones self too.

If you want to stay clean, just make sure you are getting in at least 30 grams of fiber a day. It's natures way of methodically scrubbing your innards. These "flushes" go to far and get rid of things that really should stay.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

can we have a decisive answer here?? what does snopes have to say?

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
can we have a decisive answer here?? what does snopes have to say?

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/gruesome/fecalcolon.asp


EDIT : well, pretty much

 

[TripleAAA]

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: TripleAAA
My dad went through some type of "liver cleansing" process.

Basically you eat a bunch of leafy green vegetables at first, then drink some water with epsom salt mixed in, and then take some L-Arginine pills (an amino acid) and it supposedly cleans a lot of the toxins from your liver. My dad said that on the 2nd or third day he was crapping out little black droplet things which were supposedly the crap stuck in his liver. After a while they started to turn white. The entire process is like 3-5 days long.

I dont think your liver is directly attached to any portion of your digestive tract.

Not saying it is, just figured it was a similar issue that we are discussing here.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: TripleAAA

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: TripleAAA
My dad went through some type of "liver cleansing" process.

Basically you eat a bunch of leafy green vegetables at first, then drink some water with epsom salt mixed in, and then take some L-Arginine pills (an amino acid) and it supposedly cleans a lot of the toxins from your liver. My dad said that on the 2nd or third day he was crapping out little black droplet things which were supposedly the crap stuck in his liver. After a while they started to turn white. The entire process is like 3-5 days long.

I dont think your liver is directly attached to any portion of your digestive tract.

Not saying it is, just figured it was a similar issue that we are discussing here.

Depending on what type of "leafy greens" he was eating, and just how much, he was probably consuming a massive amount of iron. A serving of collard greens is about 25% of your iron for the day. Iron turns your crap black. It has nothing to do with "flushing out your liver".

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: TripleAAA

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: TripleAAA
My dad went through some type of "liver cleansing" process.

Basically you eat a bunch of leafy green vegetables at first, then drink some water with epsom salt mixed in, and then take some L-Arginine pills (an amino acid) and it supposedly cleans a lot of the toxins from your liver. My dad said that on the 2nd or third day he was crapping out little black droplet things which were supposedly the crap stuck in his liver. After a while they started to turn white. The entire process is like 3-5 days long.

I dont think your liver is directly attached to any portion of your digestive tract.

Not saying it is, just figured it was a similar issue that we are discussing here.

Depending on what type of "leafy greens" he was eating, and just how much, he was probably consuming a massive amount of iron. A serving of collard greens is about 25% of your iron for the day. Iron turns your crap black. It has nothing to do with "flushing out your liver".

well you certainly know your sh1t

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

OP is a hypochondriac.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: ebaycj
This is way cheaper, and it does work (or at least it did for me).... http://www.ghchealth.com/oxy-powder.php

Just don't plan on going more than 10 feet from the bathroom though... The first few days you will go AT LEAST every hour on the hour, and it will be URGENT!!! So, take friday off and start on thursday night, may want to take monday off too... I started with 8 pills the first day, and just continued on with that.. only needed 4 days of it to get everything out. It's crazy how much crap "sticks" to the walls of your intestines.

Hmmmmmmm. From that page;

"Oxy-Powder® takes a totally different, all-natural approach to colon cleansing. Unlike harsh laxatives, it won't leave you a prisoner to your bathroom! That's because this revolutionary formula gradually releases its cleansing and refreshing powers over a 12 hour period, and that means that there's never any urgent rush."

 

[SophalotJack]

Well the GNC guy was a total tool and didn't have the oxy products so he pretended that they don't exist. He tried to sell me an 80 dollar bottle of multivitamins that he said would help me cleanse my crap.... left at that point. GNC sux

guess I am gonna have to take one for the team and try out the irrigation. I'll let you all know how it turns out after I am done crying and showering.

 

[armstrda]

I would strongly recommend this stuff here: www.drnatura.com - the colonix program there has helped my digestive issues. I did the complete program (Colonix, paranil, and kleri-tea) for two months, now I just do the Colonix powder every day.

 

[OutHouse]

I have had friends of mine who have had a colonic. Here in boulder there are quite a few places that does this. i have asked them how it was and i get the same answer that they feel lighter and their gut doesnt feel as full or bloated. so i just take it as, if it makes you feel better and if there arent any bad health byproducts from having a colonic, then go for it.

 

[911paramedic]

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[Whisper]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
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Exactly. Just because a bowel movement is "black" doesn't necessarily mean it's harmful (although it possibly can). And rather than being some long-standing detriment to health, it could just be regular constipation.

Additionally, the one to two bowel movements/day guideline has generally not been supported by doctors, as far as I know. While one/two movements a day is indeed healthy, some people just don't go that regularly, and there's nothing wrong with that.

If you have a bad diet, you're going to feel pretty cruddy regardless of whether or not you have colonic irrigation. Throw some fiber and water into the mix everyday, and you can avoid the problem altogether.

As far as the John Wayne story, it's urban legend.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
can we have a decisive answer here?? what does snopes have to say?

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/gruesome/fecalcolon.asp


EDIT : well, pretty much

I love that URL

 

[SophalotJack]

Ok, I chickened out and didn't make the appointment for getting my innards violated.

I am going to try a laxative regiment and cut dairy and meat out of my diet for a week.

I'll let you know if I poop something awesome.

 

[randay]

this thread is great... for me to poop on!

my friend did this 10 day diet thing, where he didnt eat any food. he just drank this special drink he made. it looked like pee. he said it had lemon and cayenne pepper and other stuff. he said there was also another salt drink he took at night. he said he felt fine and he didnt die or anything, so meh. but theres no way im gonna try that.

 

[Mark R]

Originally posted by: PottedMeat
I dont think your liver is directly attached to any portion of your digestive tract.

It most certainly is. It produces bile, which is released into the intestine in order to assist fat digestion. After use, the green bile turns into brown bile salts - and this is why faeces is brown.

This is why one symptom of liver failure is white (or pale) faeces - the liver produces no bile (or the bile can't get to the intestine).

Anyway, back to the main point of the thread - the colon is self cleaning. Stuff moves linearly through it, an the colon produces a mucusy secretion from its walls that acts like a non-stick coating, and actually pushes stuff off the walls of the colon. Unless there is actually a physical blockage (e.g. a cancer, or faeces that is so hard and dry it won't move) stuff cannot get stuck to the colon. It's physically impossible.

The other point, is that a lot of people claim the colon is for excretion. Some also claim it's for digestion. It isn't. The colon doesn't excrete anything and doesn't digest anything. It's purpose is storage and drying of faeces. If transit through the colon is very slow, e.g. due to lack of fibre, then the faeces will be extremely dry and hard by the time it reaches the end.

A lot of people claim that taking some 'cleansing diet' releases vast quantities of debris from their system. In general, all that these people are seeing is either the digested contents of the diet (which can often look very weird), or the faeces that was already in transit and would have come out anyway.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Mark R

Originally posted by: PottedMeat
I dont think your liver is directly attached to any portion of your digestive tract.

It most certainly is. It produces bile, which is released into the intestine in order to assist fat digestion. After use, the green bile turns into brown bile salts - and this is why faeces is brown.

This is why one symptom of liver failure is white (or pale) faeces - the liver produces no bile (or the bile can't get to the intestine).

Anyway, back to the main point of the thread - the colon is self cleaning. Stuff moves linearly through it, an the colon produces a mucusy secretion from its walls that acts like a non-stick coating, and actually pushes stuff off the walls of the colon. Unless there is actually a physical blockage (e.g. a cancer, or faeces that is so hard and dry it won't move) stuff cannot get stuck to the colon. It's physically impossible.

The other point, is that a lot of people claim the colon is for excretion. Some also claim it's for digestion. It isn't. The colon doesn't excrete anything and doesn't digest anything. It's purpose is storage and drying of faeces. If transit through the colon is very slow, e.g. due to lack of fibre, then the faeces will be extremely dry and hard by the time it reaches the end.

A lot of people claim that taking some 'cleansing diet' releases vast quantities of debris from their system. In general, all that these people are seeing is either the digested contents of the diet (which can often look very weird), or the faeces that was already in transit and would have come out anyway.

Interesting so in the case of my friend who went on a 10 day liquid diet, was the poo he was pooping just the digested contents of what he put into the liquid? Why does everyone say that black stuff comes out? why is it black? and what is that stuff?