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DaShen

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Well, are you happy?

Interestingly, I'm happiest when I'm completely alone. Once I'm back in an environment where there are people around, my antisocial...ism? attitude just seems much more obvious. Then I just get stressed out by all the people being around constantly, with no good place I can go to just be away from everyone. I'm in a campus apartment, which at least has a living room, so there is a bit more privacy, but I do still live with 3 other people, in only 2 bedrooms, so I do have a roommate.
At home, I had my computer room. I could go there and shut out everyone else and be alone. Here, I don't have that. I have no "quiet spot" where I can go and really feel like I can unwind, so I'm constantly a bit on edge.
That's the part of this that's getting to me.
When I was working at Walmart, yeah, the job sucked, but every day I could go home and escape that which caused me stress. Can't do that here on campus.

I'd like to get my own apartment, but I just can't afford it without going into deep debt, and apartments here come as low as $350/month. I get some government grants, but they only cover half of my college expenses.

I am actually quite content when I am alone. I love pondering and reading by myself, but I have come to realize that it is important to also have close human companionship (friendships). I had good friends before this (I can be a likable nice guy), but I was much of a hermit because of my nature, but there is definitely a better way to live than living alone. You will be a better person for it if you choose to actually work on being a little more social. Mind you, I don't go against how I was created to be (nature). I still spend a lot of my time alone, reading and pondering, but I made a conscientious decision to hang out and be social, and I believe that I have a more fulfilling life now than before.

I experience all the things I learned through thinking about it. I came to the same conclusions, but the things I learned have become more real to me in many ways. :) I even changed my mind about some conclusions I made previously because of it. The main thing is, that being a more social human being makes you a better human being, so why not try.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: UncleWai
You see IcebergSlim magnifies the problem I see. It's the mentality that every man has to get some. Women is as much of a person as man. I am not looking for some quick poon in a woman. I just cannot find a woman that can share some intellectual conversations with.

Maybe the women you talk to think the exact same thing. ;) :p

Although rare, there are plenty of girls who are intelligent, even more intelligent than you or me :Q... ;) You just need to hang out with different people every once in a while till you find one.
 

alanalafriz

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hey wai dont worry too much and you still have plenty of time. i am 30 and still single i feel hopeless.. now who sucks?
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: alanalafriz
hey wai dont worry too much and you still have plenty of time. i am 30 and still single i feel hopeless.. now who sucks?

ummmm.....how bout be proactive and do something about it.
 

zerocool1

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: zerocool1
here's my issue-
I'm a well dressed, not terribly bad looking guy, that's in shape. I'm not super awkward or anti-social.So how is it that my friends that are the complete opposite actually have girlfriends? Then they have the nerve to bug me about not having a gf, as if its some sort of problem or just assume that I'm gay. WTH I guess they're willing to put themselves out there, and I don't think I have the time for a relationship.

r u hooking up? if you are getting some satisfaction then who cares if you have a gf.

not at all. It turns out my friend's sister-in-law was interested in me, didn't even know it. But that was 3 years ago and I just found out yesterday.
 

Dudewithoutapet

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I feel your pain bro, I got a LOT of girlfirends but no Girlfriend. :( Eh its all about your confidence man. You don't really have to dress well, I do hear it helps. And fearing rejetion is the big killer. I believe in the numbers game too though, even though I've never actually put it into practice. If you keep trying even if you get rejected, you are closer to that girl that will say "yes." Good luck man. Plus you're in HK, I'm chinese and I've been there. So many cute girls, omg. Just go talk to one of them.......
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
well first off a mans only reason to exist at a very basic biological level is to proliferate his species and spread his dna as far as possible. if you dont have this urge you can hardly call yourself a man.

if you want an intellectual conversation join the philosophy club or debate team or something like that and talk to the girls there. In other words hang out where the nerdy girls are. if you don't like nerdy girls don't hang out where the nerdy girls are. If you are not looking for quick poon then don't goto keg parties, clubs or bars. This isn't rocket science man.

You personify every reason why I do not like to use the label "man" for myself. Being a "man" in the traditional sense means being an unfeeling arrogant ass who feels an urge to belittle anything with a nervous system.

Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Why would anyone want to be tied down to one person in college?

If you fall in love with someone, you don't consider it being "tied down." The "tied down" excuse is just that.. an excuse.. or just a sign of immaturity.

QFT
Thirded. If you feel like marrying someone is tying you down, either you're just not fit or "meant" to marry, or else you're with the wrong person.

 

fire400

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: alanalafriz
hey wai dont worry too much and you still have plenty of time. i am 30 and still single i feel hopeless.. now who sucks?

ummmm.....how bout be proactive and do something about it.

WOW yeah! nothing more plain than this has hit the doors harder than a battering ram, get up and get out, kids!
 

snes tor

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OK OK OK here it goes... most girls don't say no when they're asked out on a date. Theres a couple rules though. You have to know her, and she has to know you. Otherwise it's creppy. Also you have to ask nicely. Durning a simple conversation just throw in a "Hey _____, ummm..You wouldn't want to go see a movie sometime would you?" My favorites from the movie down to earth.. "Let me feed you'' This works well not on fat chicks. A simple question to go out works most of the time... Unless the girl is just a heartless b*tch.


[edit] there's sub rules to.

No smelly: Hair, armpits, breath, or feet.
If she has a car, you have to have one.
If she has a job, you have to have one.
If she doesn't have a job, you have to have one.
It's not alright to live with your mom unless she does.
Compliment her. Everyday. All the time. Never Stop.
 

Dudewithoutapet

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The compliment part kills me, I just can't do it. Not that I don't think they look smashing, I just can't say it You know what i mean?

Edit- and oh while this is a GREAT (one of THE best) communities around, you are here with us and not a girl or at least trying to get a girl. Just go out man
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Dudewithoutapet
The compliment part kills me, I just can't do it. Not that I don't think they look smashing, I just can't say it You know what i mean?

And I don't like the idea of kissing up to people - which is what the constant complimenting seems like.
 

erub

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: Dudewithoutapet
The compliment part kills me, I just can't do it. Not that I don't think they look smashing, I just can't say it You know what i mean?

And I don't like the idea of kissing up to people - which is what the constant complimenting seems like.

most girls dont like it either..especially if it seems that you are trying to hard

personally i liked having a girlfriend while in college, it meant consistent, safe poon :) i'm not a big fan of hunting around all the time just to find a different girl, I hardly knew any guys that were sucessful with sleeping with a different girl each week in college (or more)..part of it might have been the conservative nature of the school I went to though

so yeah, having a girlfriend in town is a good thing in my mind :) now on the otherhand being in a long distance relationship during college, thats the worst..then you're 'tied' down and you aint going home with nobody!
 

Dudewithoutapet

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Originally posted by: erub

so yeah, having a girlfriend in town is a good thing in my mind :) now on the otherhand being in a long distance relationship during college, thats the worst..then you're 'tied' down and you aint going home with nobody!

Agreed
 

bobsmith1492

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

the same habits will yield the same results. if you want things to change you must be willing to change. so the choice is yours.

That's just it....I also don't see much point in trying. I just don't know if it'll justify the effort required, which in itself is another reason that I think I'd best not attempt to change my "single" status right now. I understand that friendships and relationships do take effort, and I just don't seem to get much out of socializing to justify that.

then stay the same its no skin off my back. lord knows we don't need more people like you on the planet so I'll be glad if you never reproduce

Wow... Icebergman, you need to simmer down there, buddy; that's kinda hard on Jeff. I feel ya, Jeff; I could have written exactly what you did your first post on here. So, Iceberger, if everyone in the world was just a partier/hangoutandchatallday person, who would get all the work done? Which dedicated person would invent your latest processor, design your car, or whatnot? Some people are not as gifted in the social graces, but there is no point in ripping into them. Advice is one thing, but some people (me?) just need time to get acclamated to the social world or may never enter it. You don't need a hundred friends to be a good one; in fact, it's often the quieter, more shy people who will end up being your best and longest-lasting friend if you get to know them.

P.S.: are you going into engineering by any chance, Jeff, if you're still around?
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: bobsmith1492
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
then stay the same its no skin off my back. lord knows we don't need more people like you on the planet so I'll be glad if you never reproduce

Wow... Icebergman, you need to simmer down there, buddy; that's kinda hard on Jeff. I feel ya, Jeff; I could have written exactly what you did your first post on here. So, Iceberger, if everyone in the world was just a partier/hangoutandchatallday person, who would get all the work done? Which dedicated person would invent your latest processor, design your car, or whatnot? Some people are not as gifted in the social graces, but there is no point in ripping into them. Advice is one thing, but some people (me?) just need time to get acclamated to the social world or may never enter it. You don't need a hundred friends to be a good one; in fact, it's often the quieter, more shy people who will end up being your best and longest-lasting friend if you get to know them.

P.S.: are you going into engineering by any chance, Jeff, if you're still around?

I know plenty of people like good old Icebergman there. They are arrogant, and know it, and they view it as an asset, so there's not much that can be done about them. It's like arguing the benefits of Playboy vs Huslter with a Christian or Islamic extremist - it's just totally futile, so there's no point in attempting an argument.
I have armored my personality fairly well against most people, though it seems to have the side effect of kind of making me feel a bit dead to the world. There are a few weak spots in the armor, but I've also learned that it's best not to indicate what those might be, nor even hint at them.

I agree with you too, bob, about the quality vs quantity argument with friends. Having a hundred "friends" is really kind of pointless if none of them really gives a damn about you. Icebergslim, you strike me as the kind of friend who hears, "I've got cancer," and says "Goddamn, that sucks, but I'm glad I'm not you," gives a pat on the shoulder, and then leaves the table in search of longer-lived friends.

Social world is quite interesting. I think I regard it as some people look at computers. The average person is utterly clueless with computers. That which is intuitive to most people on this board is total nonsense to most other people. Which things get double clicked, and which are single-click? Why are they different? Why are there two buttons on the mouse? What's the little wheel for?
Meanwhile, in the social world, there's a similar problem at work. What does a certain stance mean? What does it mean when someone uses certain phrasings instead of others? When is a glare meant jokingly or angrily? When is a statement meant to be hurtful, or merely friendly ribbing? I have a feeling that some of the "being made fun of" throughout school might have been people attempting to get the shy quiet kid involved with the group. You know, comments about hair, gait, clothing, or anything - they might have been intended as jests, but I didn't know how to interpret it as such, so I took it at face value: The people hated who I was, how I dressed, how I walked, how I talked, how I wrote, anything.
The thing is, now I'm in college and I find myself using what I think of as considerable "processing time" in my mind to figure out and tell myself that people are just being funny or friendly. But I really don't know. Recently I was just walking back to my apartment, and ahead of me was a guy and girl, also just walking along. She said to me, "Hi person who looks interesting." I said "hi" back, not having any idea what more to say. What was her motivation for saying that? Why talk to me when I'm just minding my own business? Was it to get a cheap laugh at my response? (That has happened to me on numerous occasions - people trying to get me to talk, and no matter what I say, they'll like, laugh or high-five friends and walk away, like it's a bet to get me to speak.)


Yes, engineering, how'd you guess? :) Mechanical Engineering Technology.
 

bobsmith1492

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I tell you what, that's the thing about people; they're completely unpredictable and cannot be analyzed like any other kind of thing in this world with much success. It makes it interesting, anyway.

I just guessed about the engineering, though. You sound like you should be an engineer. :p I'm in electrical engineering, personally - one year to go and only three classes.... :confused:
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: bobsmith1492
I tell you what, that's the thing about people; they're completely unpredictable and cannot be analyzed like any other kind of thing in this world with much success. It makes it interesting, anyway.
Makes it interesting, perhaps. Also drives me a bit crazy too. Machines make more sense than people do. Nice, mechanical, inanimate objects, behaving fairly predictably, just doing what phyiscs says they should do.


I just guessed about the engineering, though. You sound like you should be an engineer. :p
I do hope so. :) My classes thus far are just tedious and a bit dull. Hopefully they start to get better.
 

LEDominator

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Your problem is right here:

For me, I don't know if I am afraid of commiting into a relationship or I am just plain ugly, I just can't find a girl that I think can be my girlfriend.
I am really anti-norm and reserved. I don't use myspace/xanga/friendster. I don't go to church. I keep any acquaintances away from my IM list.
I've given myself a nice half a year break. During this time I just do very recluse thing such as working out, practising guitar, and studying to better myself.

In order to meet girls you have to go out
 
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Originally posted by: LEDominator
Your problem is right here:

For me, I don't know if I am afraid of commiting into a relationship or I am just plain ugly, I just can't find a girl that I think can be my girlfriend.
I am really anti-norm and reserved. I don't use myspace/xanga/friendster. I don't go to church. I keep any acquaintances away from my IM list.
I've given myself a nice half a year break. During this time I just do very recluse thing such as working out, practising guitar, and studying to better myself.

In order to meet girls you have to go out

:thumbsup:

Also, stop putting girls on a pedestal. That's step #1.