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Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
The situation we're in today might not even exist if, for the last several months, anti-war protesters had been targeting Saddam to show him the world is unified against him rather than giving him hope that a war might eventually be averted because so many people are against it.

Anti-war protesters are, in a round about way, helping to bring the coming war about by giving Saddam hope.

Hahaha.. yeah right, like having 200,000 thousand UK and American Troops surrounding his country adds to his hopes

Your logic is flawed!

I have to agree with HP. The earlier protests were mentioned by Saddam. He will grab onto any sign of dissent to try and stay in power.

We will never know that if the world had presented a united front against him if he would have accepted the offer of asylum by one of the countries that have offered it. That's a shame.

 

[Wheezer]

Of course you guys feel that way, because you don't place much value in protesting. But what if it were something really valuable and meaningful to you, like having to take your wife to the hospital or something

If that is not a comparison then WTF is it?

Are you not comparing the fact that a protest might be as important to someone as my wife might be to me?

Please show me where my reading comprehension is flawed.

 

[BigJelly]

Originally posted by: ilyria
Yes Saddam is a monster who has violated every human right possible with his policies, and yes he has reneged on his promise to disarm. But why have we waited until now to do something? Is it possible that Bush is using this campaign as a scapegoat so that he can direct our attention away from even bigger issues our daily lives?

Is it possible that that answer is a scapegoat for you to draw the danger of iraq away and undermine Bush?

Originally posted by: ilyria
What about the disgraceful state of our nation?s healthcare system,

Hilary spent 8 years on it and failed at making a new system, but i dont see you blaming her.

Originally posted by: ilyria
our ravaged economy,

The fact that the stockmarket had inflated values during the clinton era? Because the economy grew the last 3 quarters. Our economy is strong and unemployment is low. Ravaged economy=Great Depression economy

Originally posted by: ilyria
the fact that we have one of the poorest education systems in the world despite the massive amounts of resources at our disposal?

Dont you mean at ITS disposal. The school system has more money than ever and you just dont understand you cant put out the fire by dumping more and more money on it.

Originally posted by: ilyria
They [UN] don?t have the muscle to do what is necessary to force Saddam to disarm.

Thats why we HAVE to disarm him by force cause the UN won't. Jesus what side are you on? you seem to hate bush and call his policies nuts but you understand the un is usless in getting rid of saddam; thats why bush wants to get saddam out.

Originally posted by: ilyria
I?m not protesting against the government because it?s trendy. I?m protesting because we have a president that is totally incompetent, and who is trying to mask it

Just like the majority of the portesters; they hate the president because he's a republican and they cant stomach it. I sure as he!! dont remember protests during 1998 when clinton bombed saddam. That's what we call a DOUBLE STANDARD children.

Originally posted by: ilyria
a war that will not only cost billions but will also take the lives of untold numbers of innocent civilians.

If the government could have paid billions to prevent 9-11 would they--YES. Who were killed--innocient civilians. Now i'm going to say something that noone else will say because they are too scared to: I don't give a sh!t if some iraqie civilians die so the world is safe. I would rather have 1,000,000 iraqies die than 1 american. Like i said you may not like it but thats how i feel, and i know im not alone.

Originally posted by: ilyria
Most of the people in our military are working class kids who joined the military because they thought it would be a ?cool? thing to do and not because they had an interest in protecting my rights. Most of them probably don?t even know the issues at hand.

I don't know who you talked to but the military personal i talked to understand it a lot better than most of the protesters. And i know not all did it to protect your rights, but a lot of them did join because they are patriots, which implies that they fight for what america stands for--freedom (which are your rights).

 

[BigJelly]

Originally posted by: dwell
How many people would "protest" if instead of walking out of class it was to stay late at school for three hours learning about the history of world wars and discussing (not hootin' and hollarin') what can be done to stop them?

if they learned and thought more they'd become republicans

 

[AmbitV]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Of course you guys feel that way, because you don't place much value in protesting. But what if it were something really valuable and meaningful to you, like having to take your wife to the hospital or something

If that is not a comparison then WTF is it?

Are you not comparing the fact that a protest might be as important to someone as my wife might be to me?

Please show me where my reading comprehension is flawed.

In that line I'm not pointing out the similarity of protesting and taking someone to the hospital. In fact, I'm doing the exact opposite - I'm pointing out the difference. Namely, taking someone to the hospital is more valuable to you (I hope) than protesting the war. It's so valuable that it, unlike protesting, is worth missing school for. So that shows that there are things that can be more valuable than school. And all I'm saying is that of course you feel this protest is stupid...because like me, you think that protesting the war is not something worth missing school for. But the protestors have a different perspective - they feel missing class is a worthy sacrafice. So just let them be idiots and miss class, lose their jobs, etc etc

 

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A view from some people who actually have lived in Iraq.

US Arabs who pray for deliverance from Saddam

"Ali Fazin is willing war to come so he can return to the family that he left behind in 1986. He accuses the anti-war protesters who have taken to the world?s streets in recent weeks of being as uninformed as his Arab immigrant neighbours from other Middle Eastern countries, many of whom oppose war. ?They don?t know what is happening in Iraq,? he says. ?They don?t know how we live. People live very hard. No medicine. No food. People are tired.?


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IN A makeshift mosque in a run-down Detroit suburb, scores of Arabs kneel on traditional carpets. But they are praying for war, not peace.
?War is indescribable, beyond imagination. But believe me, Saddam is worse,? says Baker Albaaj, a 37-year-old biologist who helps to run the small Islamic centre, hidden in a low-ceilinged brick building that used to be a dance hall.

Elsewhere in America, support for military action to remove President Saddam Hussein is, at best, equivocal, but here among the 25,000 Iraqi Shia Muslims who live in exile in Dearborn, a suburb of the decaying birthplace of the mass-produced motor car, it is resoundingly high.
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[UDT89]

all i know is being a student not more than 3 months ago, student protests mean nothing in my book.

Why?

B/c i actually went to one, about how new york state was to increase tuition. About 75% of the kids there didnt really care, they just wanted the day off and to sit outside.

just my 2 cents