College Girls get probation for drinking, setup website that said "F U" judge...

[Gravity]

Women in training....

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: OrByte
imho it would have been better for another judge to handle the probation violations.

I agree, but only so that no ninnies could cry foul. I can't imagine any judge that would not throw the book at you for being stupid enough to not only repeat your offense, but to mention the sentencing judge by name on the internet in conjunction with pictures of you doing it again.

Exactly, because if the girls were smart they would get a lawyer in there to, "cry foul." but if their past is any indication, they aren't that smart

I am curious why the judge didn't foresee that little conflict. He could have sidestepped the issue entirely and still got the same result (probation violations). I have to conclude that he wanted to get a little revenge too. Can't blame him, but it just could have been handled better.

 

[skyking]

This Martone has a sense of humor, I'll give him that. Click on the 5th song on this guy's album, "in the court of Judge Martone". It's a two minute clip.
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/sdeasy

 

[JDrake]

Originally posted by: sao123
where are the pics???
:|

lol not missing much

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: OrByte
The girls did wrong, but imho the judge made it personal. His quote here makes me feel that way:

"You know, it's just a crying shame. I work my butt off trying to help kids like this, trying to figure out what works. And then they do things like this."

imho it would have been better for another judge to handle the probation violations.

Judges are human too, and I am willing to bet he was a little more than just saddened when he saw that website.

No, the girl made it personal. And she put evidence of her probation violation on the Internet. She's an idiot. Maybe her time in jail will serve as a wake-up call. Probably not.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: dman
Pretty lame use of our justice system, imo. That said, those are the laws and they were old enough to know better.

The irony is, if they were old enough to know better, shouldn't they have been old enough to drink as well?

Besides, a couple of peices of sugar free gum with alcohol based artifical sweetners can get ur BAC to .02, thats ******. Most of those girls probobly only had a few sips.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

This judge is a facist. Yes the girls broke the law, but they broke a STUPID law that probably 85% of the country breaks. Just because some of the greasy, cave-troll, nerd moralists on this site didn't drink before 21, doesn't mean that the rest of the country is this way.

Did the judge have the technical right to do what he did? Obviously. Was it the RIGHT thing to do? I sure as hell don't think so. Those kids didn't do anything that warrants having their record stained for the next 30 years, and more than anything, that's what this judge did.

I bet he takes gift baskets worth more than $25 during the holidays. Someone should investigate that.

 

[BillyBatson]

wish we could see the website with the pic

 

[yhelothar]

I had a few friends that went to troy.. That's like the nerdiest high school on the planet.

Edit: NM, I see that it took place in Detroit. I was thinking of the So. Cal one filled with asians.

 

[EvilYoda]

ahahaha...Martone is well known in Troy. That was my high school Big surprise, a well-to-do city's high school wants to let off a little steam...maybe HS's changed in the last 6 years, who knows. We might not rank as high as our cross-town rival Troy High, but Athens is still one of the best public high schools in the nation.

that's hilarious...time to forward to my sister ^_^

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: illusion88
Oh come on!
Who didn't drink before a high school dance? Who here never drank in High School? I bet those who can truthfully answer yes are in the minority.

And these girls paid their dues for it. They lost Honor Status, got put on probation, and all of this was made public. Now, in college, they excercise a little freedom of speach, and civil disobediance and they get more punishment for it. I think that judge needs to lighten up a bit. I think he did enough when they got busted in the Spring.

One of the tenets of civil disobediance is to accept the consequences of one's actions.
These girls clearly are not.
Also, their "freedom of speech" also includes a responsibility to not waste the opportunities to do so appropriately.
If they think this was an appropriate method of voicing their opinion, then I guess we know more and different things about their decsion making and choice taking ability than we thought we knew.

 

[LtPage1]

Originally posted by: dman
Pretty lame use of our justice system, imo. That said, those are the laws and they were old enough to know better.

Agreed. Drinking age should be 18 and driving age should be 21, IMO.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: OrByte
The girls did wrong, but imho the judge made it personal. His quote here makes me feel that way:

"You know, it's just a crying shame. I work my butt off trying to help kids like this, trying to figure out what works. And then they do things like this."

imho it would have been better for another judge to handle the probation violations.

Judges are human too, and I am willing to bet he was a little more than just saddened when he saw that website.

No, the girl made it personal. And she put evidence of her probation violation on the Internet. She's an idiot. Maybe her time in jail will serve as a wake-up call. Probably not.

QFT & FTW.
FINALLY , SOMEONE is seeing the same thing I am. The GIRL turned it personal by her little website stunt. The judge is handing out door prizes for the socially inept.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: KMFJD
Jail time for underage drinking? wow just wow

The jail time came for breaking conditions of probation. The judge showed leniency and they looked that gift horse in the mouth. They threw his leniency in his face. He let them off with probation and they violated probation. They knew the conditions of probation but they arrogantly flaunted their disregard for the authority of the law in the judges face. And considering this arrogance, they still got off easy. People need to learn that the consequences of our actions and decisions can haunt us and we have to live with them the rest of our lives. Most people, as in this case, have to learn this the hard way or they never learn at all.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: toekramp
anyone else curious how the judge just happened to stumble across a site of teenage girls?

It tells you how he found it if you read the whole article from the link. He was looking for one of his own publications by putting his own name into a search engine.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Ime
Here is a definition of "Contempt of Court".

Link

I'd say that is pretty much what these kids did, so the Judge was well within his rights to send them to jail.

No, it wasn't contempt of court. It was probation violation. Ok, thank you for playing. Next!

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: aswedc
Fvcking morality police. Over a web site? He is damn lucky he didn't get his house vandalized. I bet he gives kids a year in prison for marijuana possession :roll:

We can tell you're goin far in life. . .

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: LtPage1

Originally posted by: dman
Pretty lame use of our justice system, imo. That said, those are the laws and they were old enough to know better.

Agreed. Drinking age should be 18 and driving age should be 21, IMO.

I'd go for that. What worries me most about underage drinking is that they already cause a disproportionate number of accidents due to immaturity, how can they expect to be trusted to not drink and drive? Then you've got drunk teenagers driving, OH THE HUMANITY! I don't have a problem with kids drinking, but they should do it the way my friends and I did it - in private, somewhere you won't have to drive home from.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: aswedc
Fvcking morality police. Over a web site? He is damn lucky he didn't get his house vandalized. I bet he gives kids a year in prison for marijuana possession :roll:

Over a website documenting the commission of an infraction for which the girls had ALREADY been caught and placed on probation!

The girls did wrong, but imho the judge made it personal. His quote here makes me feel that way:

"You know, it's just a crying shame. I work my butt off trying to help kids like this, trying to figure out what works. And then they do things like this."

imho it would have been better for another judge to handle the probation violations.

Judges are human too, and I am willing to bet he was a little more than just saddened when he saw that website.

When a judge gives you probation, he she gives a sentence and then outlines the probation conditions that you have to abide by to avoid having that sentence actually imposed. That means you already know what is going to happen if you break your probation. There is no need for a judge other than the one who gave out the probation to oversee handling of the violation. And considering how blatant these dumb young women were, I think they still got off easy.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: Ime
Here is a definition of "Contempt of Court".

Link

I'd say that is pretty much what these kids did, so the Judge was well within his rights to send them to jail.

No, it wasn't contempt of court. It was probation violation. Ok, thank you for playing. Next!

This is from the web site with the article

The Web site, shown to police and probation officers, immediately became legal evidence for charging the three young women with contempt of court "for disobeying my direct order not to consume alcohol," Martone said.

Thanks for phoning in though!

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: sao123
where are the pics???
:|

Drunken fatties on the left side of the page.

 

[PurdueRy]

HAHAHA that High school is very close to my house, in fact I almost went there back in the day

 

[fbrdphreak]

They're all fat and ugly anyway, who cares about pics?

Stupid bitches got what they deserved, moving on

 

[Babbles]

Wow, I am convinced that the only sort of people who would defend these girls are random trolls who somehow broke out of P&N. Here are few gems posted on this thread by people who seemingly appear to be no more intelligent than those girls:

Originally posted by: smack Down
Of courses there actions caused zero problems except for stupid laws saying it is illegal.

Yes, those stupid, stupid, stupid laws. Screw the legal system and precedents; anarchy for life, yo.

Originally posted by: illusion88
Oh come on!
Who didn't drink before a high school dance? Who here never drank in High School? I bet those who can truthfully answer yes are in the minority.

And these girls paid their dues for it. They lost Honor Status, got put on probation, and all of this was made public. Now, in college, they excercise a little freedom of speach, and civil disobediance and they get more punishment for it. I think that judge needs to lighten up a bit. I think he did enough when they got busted in the Spring.

So just because other people broke the law that alone should be reason enough to look the other way? As others said, many times, it was contempt of court and breaking their probation that really got them into trouble.

Also, you sure as hell may want to find out what "freedom of speech" and "civil disobedience" is before you casually toss out those terms. It sort of makes you look foolish.

Originally posted by: aswedc
Fvcking morality police. Over a web site? He is damn lucky he didn't get his house vandalized. I bet he gives kids a year in prison for marijuana possession :roll:

Morality police? While yes it is immoral to break probation and be found to be in contempt of court, it is also a major legal thing.
This is like the "real" police, not the "morality" police.

Originally posted by: LordSegan
This judge is a facist. Yes the girls broke the law, but they broke a STUPID law that probably 85% of the country breaks. Just because some of the greasy, cave-troll, nerd moralists on this site didn't drink before 21, doesn't mean that the rest of the country is this way.

Did the judge have the technical right to do what he did? Obviously. Was it the RIGHT thing to do? I sure as hell don't think so. Those kids didn't do anything that warrants having their record stained for the next 30 years, and more than anything, that's what this judge did.

I bet he takes gift baskets worth more than $25 during the holidays. Someone should investigate that.

Again, just because others break the law should not be an excuse to continue to break the law. Also, you douchenozzle, it isn't the "nerd moralists on this sit" but rather established law that makes it this way. Do you think the Judge contacted ATOT about this? What the heck does the opinion of this site have to do with legal ramifications?

Yes, the judge had the technical right and it sure as hell was the right thing to do. How on Earth, please please tell me, would it be "right" to allow the girls to break their probation, be in contempt of court and NOT punish them?

Also, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think there is anything illegal about a Judge receiving Christmas presents.

I think you are a few ounces short of forty.



It is interesting to note, I think, that by looking at the responses of people you can tell who are probably more responsible with their lives and those that are a bit on the . . . immature side.

 

[KarenMarie]

They wanted to be smartasses and it bit them on the nose.

good.

and shame on the parents who are making excuses for their spiteful little kids. parents like that... they screw up so much in society.