Colin Powell endorses Obama

[GTKeeper]

I think this will re-enforce the 'reluctant' choice of Obama for many. I respect Powell and I think he is the kind of centrist that we need in our leadership.

 

[winnar111]

Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

 

[Red Dawn]

It's not just him as a personality that may sway Independents, it's what he had to say. I think he was very persuasive in his reasoning to vote for Obama over McCain, a lot more than many of our argument against McCain or the arguments by Cad and other partisans of the Hard Right against Obama.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: HomerJS
I can predict the spin of the talking right wing radio hosts...

See the liberal elite media just focuses on Republicans when they go against their own.

Too much time by the LEM spent on this story.

Powell is a traitor.

Powell was never really a Republican

And the Palin supporters will drag the colour of his skin into the equation too.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

being republican used to be about more than being anti-abortion and against civil and human rights, there was once a republican party that was a big tent. Right now the republican party is doing is best to rid itself of whatever intellectual basis it once had.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

We definitely don't need any more Social Conservative in the Court.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

We definitely don't need any more Social Conservative in the Court.

You're entitled to believe that, but in 2001, Powell joined up to serve a President who promised to put more 'social conservatives' in the Court.

Didn't bother him then.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

We definitely don't need any more Social Conservative in the Court.

It has gone beyond that. We can't afford any more Justices who believe in the "unitary power of the executive" i.e. leadership principle.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

We definitely don't need any more Social Conservative in the Court.

You're entitled to believe that, but in 2001, Powell joined up to serve a President who promised to put more 'social conservatives' in the Court.

Didn't bother him then.

And a dyed in the wool Republican partisan would never be able to re-evaluate his beliefs and change his mind. Obviously Powell did and I think that's commendable.

 

[techs]

A commentator made a good point. Florida has a large number of military personnel and the Powell endorsement might swing a bunch over to Obama.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

We definitely don't need any more Social Conservative in the Court.

You're entitled to believe that, but in 2001, Powell joined up to serve a President who promised to put more 'social conservatives' in the Court.

Didn't bother him then.

And a died in the wool Republican partisan would never be able to re-evaluate his beliefs and change his mind. Obviously Powell did and I think that's commendable.

You mean he flip flopped.

How many white liberal Democrats has Powell supported for anything?

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

If you listened carefully to his reasoning behind supporting Obama you would know.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
It's not just him as a personality that may sway Independents, it's what he had to say. I think he was very persuasive in his reasoning to vote for Obama over McCain, a lot more than many of our argument against McCain or the arguments by Cad and other partisans of the Hard Right against Obama.

Maybe I just looked at it differently, but I saw it more as a repudiation of Republican rule than an overarching endorsement. Sure, he said that Obama had the polish and experience...

But I thought that Powell's "endorsement" was actually more of a intelligent, articulate, concise ass buggering of what's wrong with the Republican party, what's wrong with McCain's strategy, how McCain's campaign is doing more fear-mongering and scare tactics, and how basically just giving the average person a good look at the what's wrong with the current Conservative movement.

Sure, it was an "endorsement" of Obama, but I feel that he did more to rip Republicans apart than to build Obama up.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

If you listened carefully to his reasoning behind supporting Obama you would know.

Know what? That Colin Powell is a RINO on domestic issues?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...itics/main537363.shtml

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

We definitely don't need any more Social Conservative in the Court.

You're entitled to believe that, but in 2001, Powell joined up to serve a President who promised to put more 'social conservatives' in the Court.

Didn't bother him then.

And a died in the wool Republican partisan would never be able to re-evaluate his beliefs and change his mind. Obviously Powell did and I think that's commendable.

You mean he flip flopped.

How many white liberal Democrats has Powell supported for anything?

He started his so called flip-flopping in 2004 when he didn't return to the administration. The GOP is the one that flip flopped....and Powell woke up and saw that fact. The rest of the country seems to be doing the same. As predicted, the resident repubs are trashing the man now. Of course, the resident dems are now praising the man.

My view: He lied to the UN and "KNEW" it at the time but continued to do so leading us into a false war. That will never be forgiven or forgotten by me, period.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

We definitely don't need any more Social Conservative in the Court.

You're entitled to believe that, but in 2001, Powell joined up to serve a President who promised to put more 'social conservatives' in the Court.

Didn't bother him then.

And a died in the wool Republican partisan would never be able to re-evaluate his beliefs and change his mind. Obviously Powell did and I think that's commendable.

You mean he flip flopped.

How many white liberal Democrats has Powell supported for anything?

I wouldn't say re-evaluation after 7+ years is a flip flop.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
You mean he flip flopped.

How many white liberal Democrats has Powell supported for anything?

I wouldn't say re-evaluation after 7+ years is a flip flop.

The policy of putting conservatives on the Court has existed since 1969 and Nixon. I don't know how you can support that for 35 years, then all of a sudden change your mind because Bush 43 actually succeeded at it.

Either you flip flopped or never really believed it in the first place.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Engineer
He started his so called flip-flopping in 2004 when he didn't return to the administration. The GOP is the one that flip flopped....and Powell woke up and saw that fact. The rest of the country seems to be doing the same. As predicted, the resident repubs are trashing the man now. Of course, the resident dems are now praising the man.

My view: He lied to the UN and "KNEW" it at the time but continued to do so leading us into a false war. That will never be forgiven or forgotten by me, period.

What did the GOP flip flop on since 2004?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
You mean he flip flopped.

How many white liberal Democrats has Powell supported for anything?

I wouldn't say re-evaluation after 7+ years is a flip flop.

The policy of putting conservatives on the Court has existed since 1969 and Nixon. I don't know how you can support that for 35 years, then all of a sudden change your mind because Bush 43 actually succeeded at it.

Either you flip flopped or never really believed it in the first place.

I'm talking about Social Conservatives.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: techs
Yep. I was right.
Hope the same sources that told me Powell was going to endorse Obama are wrong on Cuba.

I think you have several orders of magnitude difference in the probability of the two events.

I got it from the same sources. And they have been talking about Powell for over two weeks endorsing Obama. WAY before anyone else.
Of course, even a stopped clock.....

This is only a surprise to people not involved in political circles. My ex, who I am still amazing friends with, said this would happen about a month ago, and we had dinner conversations with her family in regards to it. Colin has been making his feelings knowing for a while, I'm surprised its only *public* now.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Engineer
He started his so called flip-flopping in 2004 when he didn't return to the administration. The GOP is the one that flip flopped....and Powell woke up and saw that fact. The rest of the country seems to be doing the same. As predicted, the resident repubs are trashing the man now. Of course, the resident dems are now praising the man.

My view: He lied to the UN and "KNEW" it at the time but continued to do so leading us into a false war. That will never be forgiven or forgotten by me, period.

What did the GOP flip flop on since 2004?

Their opinion of John McCain?

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
You mean he flip flopped.

How many white liberal Democrats has Powell supported for anything?

I wouldn't say re-evaluation after 7+ years is a flip flop.

The policy of putting conservatives on the Court has existed since 1969 and Nixon. I don't know how you can support that for 35 years, then all of a sudden change your mind because Bush 43 actually succeeded at it.

Either you flip flopped or never really believed it in the first place.

I'm talking about Social Conservatives.

So am I. Actually, if you want to talk about Social Conservatives, Byron White dates back to John Kennedy in 1962.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Engineer
He started his so called flip-flopping in 2004 when he didn't return to the administration. The GOP is the one that flip flopped....and Powell woke up and saw that fact. The rest of the country seems to be doing the same. As predicted, the resident repubs are trashing the man now. Of course, the resident dems are now praising the man.

My view: He lied to the UN and "KNEW" it at the time but continued to do so leading us into a false war. That will never be forgiven or forgotten by me, period.

What did the GOP flip flop on since 2004?

Their opinion of John McCain?

There's a difference between liking someone and voting for him. I'd much rather vote for the Bush of 2004 than McCain.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Engineer
He started his so called flip-flopping in 2004 when he didn't return to the administration. The GOP is the one that flip flopped....and Powell woke up and saw that fact. The rest of the country seems to be doing the same. As predicted, the resident repubs are trashing the man now. Of course, the resident dems are now praising the man.

My view: He lied to the UN and "KNEW" it at the time but continued to do so leading us into a false war. That will never be forgiven or forgotten by me, period.

What did the GOP flip flop on since 2004?

Their opinion of John McCain?

There's a difference between liking someone and voting for him. I'd much rather vote for the Bush of 2004 than McCain.

We have a WINNER!

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
Not sure why this is news; Powell is fundamentally a liberal on most issues.

As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."

We definitely don't need any more Social Conservative in the Court.

You're entitled to believe that, but in 2001, Powell joined up to serve a President who promised to put more 'social conservatives' in the Court.

Didn't bother him then.

GWB did, making the court more "centrist". What Powell is saying is he doesn't want *two* more added, which would push the court way right, into potential fascist territory. It is better to keep the court center.