Colin Powell endorses Obama

[Deliximus]

I hope this will be one of the final nails to the McCain-Palin ticket. I wonder how much money Obama got for October? LOL.

 

[NoShangriLa]

Another abandoned jackal crossing the floor to join the winning politicos.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
You mean he flip flopped.

How many white liberal Democrats has Powell supported for anything?

I wouldn't say re-evaluation after 7+ years is a flip flop.

The policy of putting conservatives on the Court has existed since 1969 and Nixon. I don't know how you can support that for 35 years, then all of a sudden change your mind because Bush 43 actually succeeded at it.

Either you flip flopped or never really believed it in the first place.

Or the third possibility, which requires the mental capacity to understand nuance - not a right-wing strong point: Powell may want balance on the court. Not a hard right court, which is exactly what the appointment of two more conservative justices would create. And not a liberal court. But a court in which two or three justices are reliably unreliable.

So it's entirely consistent possible that Powell hasn't changed his mind one iota.

 

[Butterbean]

Powel is also endorsing Ted "bridge to nowhere" Stevens:

"Colin Powell, described Sen. Ted Stevens in court today as a "trusted individual" and a man with a "sterling" reputation."

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi...ry/551875.html


It's no surprise Powell (another Bush RINO) endorsed Obama and its no surprise the decision is mostly race based. Plus Powell lost taste Republican admin after the UN WMD fiasco that cost Powell substantial credibility and he felt somewhat used (he was correct).

Its' pretty lame to describe Palin as "inexperienced" for VP but an Alinsky trained "Organizer" with 150 days in senate is ok for POTUS.

Powell is good man who is just made a bad decision (another one). Robert E Lee said slavery "as an institution is a moral and political evil" but he went with confederacy out of loyalty to Virginia. Irwin Rommel was also a decent guy who ended up on wrong side and tried to fix things latter. If BO wins look for Powell at some point not long away to express remorse for his endorsement even as Rommel did. Powell is a loyal guy and in this case it loyalty first to race because he likes idea of first non white Pres. He is obviously deceived about Obama himself though.

 

[Zedtom]

The Republican party missed a golden opportunity in not having Powell as McCain's choice as vice president. That would have defused the whole race issue and made Obama look like a novice amongst experts. I think Powell would have forced the closeted racists lurking in the conservative base to get with the program or crawl back in their holes. Palin has only fed into their whacked-out craziness.

I suggested on these forums at one time that Obama should select Powell as his running mate. That would have lit a fire under every white racist in the country.

Oh, to veer off-topic for a minute. I myself judge people by how well they speak. If a person can't communicate on a mature, adult level then I lose my respect for them no matter what color their skin is.

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Powel is also endorsing Ted "bridge to nowhere" Stevens:

"Colin Powell, described Sen. Ted Stevens in court today as a "trusted individual" and a man with a "sterling" reputation."

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi...ry/551875.html


It's no surprise Powell (another Bush RINO) endorsed Obama and its no surprise the decision is mostly race based. Plus Powell lost taste Republican admin after the UN WMD fiasco that cost Powell substantial credibility and he felt somewhat used (he was correct).

Its' pretty lame to describe Palin as "inexperienced" for VP but an Alinsky trained "Organizer" with 150 days in senate is ok for POTUS.

Powell is good man who is just made a bad decision (another one). Robert E Lee said slavery "as an institution is a moral and political evil" but he went with confederacy out of loyalty to Virginia. Irwin Rommel was also a decent guy who ended up on wrong side and tried to fix things latter. If BO wins look for Powell at some point not long away to express remorse for his endorsement even as Rommel did. Powell is a loyal guy and in this case it loyalty first to race because he likes idea of first non white Pres. He is obviously deceived about Obama himself though.

Untill you post a working link I don't believe you.

Anyone who buys foriegn policy experience as being able to see Russia from her house I question their intelligence

If she has such a firm grasp of issues enough to be President why not do the Sunday talk shows (all of them)? Oh that's right those damned gotcha liberal media with all their questions and followups.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Powel is also endorsing Ted "bridge to nowhere" Stevens:

"Colin Powell, described Sen. Ted Stevens in court today as a "trusted individual" and a man with a "sterling" reputation."

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi...ry/551875.html


It's no surprise Powell (another Bush RINO) endorsed Obama and its no surprise the decision is mostly race based. Plus Powell lost taste Republican admin after the UN WMD fiasco that cost Powell substantial credibility and he felt somewhat used (he was correct).

Its' pretty lame to describe Palin as "inexperienced" for VP but an Alinsky trained "Organizer" with 150 days in senate is ok for POTUS.

Powell is good man who is just made a bad decision (another one). Robert E Lee said slavery "as an institution is a moral and political evil" but he went with confederacy out of loyalty to Virginia. Irwin Rommel was also a decent guy who ended up on wrong side and tried to fix things latter. If BO wins look for Powell at some point not long away to express remorse for his endorsement even as Rommel did. Powell is a loyal guy and in this case it loyalty first to race because he likes idea of first non white Pres. He is obviously deceived about Obama himself though.

Untill you post a working link I don't believe you.

Anyone who buys foriegn policy experience as being able to see Russia from her house I question their intelligence

If she has such a firm grasp of issues enough to be President why not do the Sunday talk shows (all of them)? Oh that's right those damned gotcha liberal media with all their questions and followups.

Google is your friend:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheL...tory?id=6006291&page=1

 

[Woofmeister]

Originally posted by: Zedtom
The Republican party missed a golden opportunity in not having Powell as McCain's choice as vice president. That would have defused the whole race issue and made Obama look like a novice amongst experts. I think Powell would have forced the closeted racists lurking in the conservative base to get with the program or crawl back in their holes. Palin has only fed into their whacked-out craziness.

I suggested on these forums at one time that Obama should select Powell as his running mate. That would have lit a fire under every white racist in the country.

Oh, to veer off-topic for a minute. I myself judge people by how well they speak. If a person can't communicate on a mature, adult level then I lose my respect for them no matter what color their skin is.

I would bet any amount of money that McCain asked Powell to be his VP nominee and that Powell refused. Not because Powell doesn't like and respect McCain, but because Powell is done with the political spotlight.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111
You mean he flip flopped.

How many white liberal Democrats has Powell supported for anything?

I wouldn't say re-evaluation after 7+ years is a flip flop.

The policy of putting conservatives on the Court has existed since 1969 and Nixon. I don't know how you can support that for 35 years, then all of a sudden change your mind because Bush 43 actually succeeded at it.

Either you flip flopped or never really believed it in the first place.

Or the third possibility, which requires the mental capacity to understand nuance - not a right-wing strong point: Powell may want balance on the court. Not a hard right court, which is exactly what the appointment of two more conservative justices would create. And not a liberal court. But a court in which two or three justices are reliably unreliable.

So it's entirely consistent possible that Powell hasn't changed his mind one iota.

If that's what you want, Obama has much more potential to nominate a far left justice than McCain does a far right justice with the new Democratic Senate.

 

[trenchfoot]

I have always supported Colin Powell, and always will, no matter what side of the aisle he sits on. His moral values are what I respect about the man, and to me, that transends the sleazy values of politics hands down. I once respected John McCain for the same reason, only he succumbed to the lure of the power in politics, whereas Powell rightfully but belatedly took a stand and got castigated for it.

IMHO, he did not enter politics for personal gain. He went in because he felt he could make a positive contribution to the nation, just as he did for the military.

His one trait that betrayed him was his unshakable belief in the chain of command, which put Bush as his CIC. His military indoctrination compelled him to obey orders so long as he was told that whatever choices his CIC made, it was for the good of the country.

We'll never know what he was told and what promises were made to him if he went along with the propaganda war the Bush camp waged in the lead-up to the Invasion of Iraq, but in return for his loyalty, he got betrayed and then summarily swept aside like roadkill when he objected to how his credentials and reputation was being used and abused to further an agenda that he, as stated previously, belatedly realized he didn't agree with.

He's done the right thing, which is to stand tall on his principles and go where his heart is leading him. That's the Colin Powell I believe is the true Colin Powell and not the dupe that Cheney and Bush wanted him to be.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Powel is also endorsing Ted "bridge to nowhere" Stevens:

"Colin Powell, described Sen. Ted Stevens in court today as a "trusted individual" and a man with a "sterling" reputation."

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi...ry/551875.html


It's no surprise Powell (another Bush RINO) endorsed Obama and its no surprise the decision is mostly race based. Plus Powell lost taste Republican admin after the UN WMD fiasco that cost Powell substantial credibility and he felt somewhat used (he was correct).

Its' pretty lame to describe Palin as "inexperienced" for VP but an Alinsky trained "Organizer" with 150 days in senate is ok for POTUS.

Powell is good man who is just made a bad decision (another one). Robert E Lee said slavery "as an institution is a moral and political evil" but he went with confederacy out of loyalty to Virginia. Irwin Rommel was also a decent guy who ended up on wrong side and tried to fix things latter. If BO wins look for Powell at some point not long away to express remorse for his endorsement even as Rommel did. Powell is a loyal guy and in this case it loyalty first to race because he likes idea of first non white Pres. He is obviously deceived about Obama himself though.

Got your rope and hood ready BB for Nov 5th?

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Powel is also endorsing Ted "bridge to nowhere" Stevens:

"Colin Powell, described Sen. Ted Stevens in court today as a "trusted individual" and a man with a "sterling" reputation."

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi...ry/551875.html


It's no surprise Powell (another Bush RINO) endorsed Obama and its no surprise the decision is mostly race based. Plus Powell lost taste Republican admin after the UN WMD fiasco that cost Powell substantial credibility and he felt somewhat used (he was correct).

Its' pretty lame to describe Palin as "inexperienced" for VP but an Alinsky trained "Organizer" with 150 days in senate is ok for POTUS.

Powell is good man who is just made a bad decision (another one). Robert E Lee said slavery "as an institution is a moral and political evil" but he went with confederacy out of loyalty to Virginia. Irwin Rommel was also a decent guy who ended up on wrong side and tried to fix things latter. If BO wins look for Powell at some point not long away to express remorse for his endorsement even as Rommel did. Powell is a loyal guy and in this case it loyalty first to race because he likes idea of first non white Pres. He is obviously deceived about Obama himself though.

Outright LIE Butterbean. NOWHERE is Powell endorsing Stevens for re-election.
NOWHERE.
You need to admit your lie. That's the first step to being taken seriously.

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Powel is also endorsing Ted "bridge to nowhere" Stevens:

"Colin Powell, described Sen. Ted Stevens in court today as a "trusted individual" and a man with a "sterling" reputation."

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi...ry/551875.html


It's no surprise Powell (another Bush RINO) endorsed Obama and its no surprise the decision is mostly race based. Plus Powell lost taste Republican admin after the UN WMD fiasco that cost Powell substantial credibility and he felt somewhat used (he was correct).

Its' pretty lame to describe Palin as "inexperienced" for VP but an Alinsky trained "Organizer" with 150 days in senate is ok for POTUS.

Powell is good man who is just made a bad decision (another one). Robert E Lee said slavery "as an institution is a moral and political evil" but he went with confederacy out of loyalty to Virginia. Irwin Rommel was also a decent guy who ended up on wrong side and tried to fix things latter. If BO wins look for Powell at some point not long away to express remorse for his endorsement even as Rommel did. Powell is a loyal guy and in this case it loyalty first to race because he likes idea of first non white Pres. He is obviously deceived about Obama himself though.

Got your rope and hood ready BB for Nov 5th?

Oh, and don't forget about that large can full of gasoline out back, the lumber and nails to build that funny looking t-post and the torches....especially the torches.

edit - spl

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Powel is also endorsing Ted "bridge to nowhere" Stevens:

"Colin Powell, described Sen. Ted Stevens in court today as a "trusted individual" and a man with a "sterling" reputation."

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi...ry/551875.html


It's no surprise Powell (another Bush RINO) endorsed Obama and its no surprise the decision is mostly race based. Plus Powell lost taste Republican admin after the UN WMD fiasco that cost Powell substantial credibility and he felt somewhat used (he was correct).

Its' pretty lame to describe Palin as "inexperienced" for VP but an Alinsky trained "Organizer" with 150 days in senate is ok for POTUS.

Powell is good man who is just made a bad decision (another one). Robert E Lee said slavery "as an institution is a moral and political evil" but he went with confederacy out of loyalty to Virginia. Irwin Rommel was also a decent guy who ended up on wrong side and tried to fix things latter. If BO wins look for Powell at some point not long away to express remorse for his endorsement even as Rommel did. Powell is a loyal guy and in this case it loyalty first to race because he likes idea of first non white Pres. He is obviously deceived about Obama himself though.

Outright LIE Butterbean. NOWHERE is Powell endorsing Stevens for re-election.
NOWHERE.
You need to admit your lie. That's the first step to being taken seriously.

he didn't endorse Stevens for reelection.

he did exercise his judgment in calling Stevens "a trusted individual... in a word ... sterling... [He] never would do anything that was improper."

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=6006291&page=1

if Ted Stevens is who Colin Powell envisions as a trusted individual, I'm not sure I want to know what he sees in Barack.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Tab
Damn, he sounds really good for a black guy...

"Whenever Colin Powell is on the news, white people give him the same compliments: 'How do you feel about Colin Powell?', 'He speaks so well! He's so well spoken. I mean he really speaks so well!' Like that's a compliment, shit. 'He speaks so well' is not a compliment, okay? 'He speaks so well' is some shit you say about retarded people that can talk. What do you mean he speaks so well? He's a fucking educated man! How the fuck you expect him to sound, you dirty motherfucker? 'He speaks so well.' What are you talking about? What voice were you expecting to come out of his mouth? 'Imma drop me a bomb today', 'I be Pwez o dent!'.""

One of these days, Colin should just shift into angry gangsta mode

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Powel is also endorsing Ted "bridge to nowhere" Stevens:

"Colin Powell, described Sen. Ted Stevens in court today as a "trusted individual" and a man with a "sterling" reputation."

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi...ry/551875.html


It's no surprise Powell (another Bush RINO) endorsed Obama and its no surprise the decision is mostly race based. Plus Powell lost taste Republican admin after the UN WMD fiasco that cost Powell substantial credibility and he felt somewhat used (he was correct).

Its' pretty lame to describe Palin as "inexperienced" for VP but an Alinsky trained "Organizer" with 150 days in senate is ok for POTUS.

Powell is good man who is just made a bad decision (another one). Robert E Lee said slavery "as an institution is a moral and political evil" but he went with confederacy out of loyalty to Virginia. Irwin Rommel was also a decent guy who ended up on wrong side and tried to fix things latter. If BO wins look for Powell at some point not long away to express remorse for his endorsement even as Rommel did. Powell is a loyal guy and in this case it loyalty first to race because he likes idea of first non white Pres. He is obviously deceived about Obama himself though.

Outright LIE Butterbean. NOWHERE is Powell endorsing Stevens for re-election.
NOWHERE.
You need to admit your lie. That's the first step to being taken seriously.

he didn't endorse Stevens for reelection.

he did exercise his judgment in calling Stevens "a trusted individual... in a word ... sterling... [He] never would do anything that was improper."

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=6006291&page=1

if Ted Stevens is who Colin Powell envisions as a trusted individual, I'm not sure I want to know what he sees in Barack.

Yes, but Butterbean said Powell endorsed him, when he didn't.

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
A fairly lovely final fvck u to the party that hung him out to dry with the war run-up lies, but still, he was the one who gave them and he is complicit.

Yeah I just watched the meet the press announcement and I have to say it's moving and I believe really genuine. But you know if he had not appeared before the UN and made the case for attacking Iraq we might not be there now. Many people see his appearance there as crucial to getting the few supporters the US managed to get for Iraq.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I just watched a clip of Powell's endorsement.

Perhaps one of the most eloquent arguments I have seen as to why you should vote for Obama. He really nailed it.

McCain is done, this IS the final nail in the coffin in his pathetic campaign. The America people will whole-heartedly reject the politics of racism, fear, and polarization that the Republican party has clung to for the last 50-60 years. The Republican Party will be dismantled and forced to find it's identity once again.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
I just watched a clip of Powell's endorsement.

Perhaps one of the most eloquent arguments I have seen as to why you should vote for Obama. He really nailed it.

McCain is done, this IS the final nail in the coffin in his pathetic campaign. The America people will whole-heartedly reject the politics of racism, fear, and polarization that the Republican party has clung to for the last 50-60 years. The Republican Party will be dismantled and forced to find it's identity once again.

That would be nice, but don't rule them out yet. Very powerful the dark side is, and many tricks they still have.

 

[techs]

Colin Powell speaks extremely well for a HUMAN BEING.

 

[WHipLAsh13]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No big deal, Colin is to the Repubicans as Liberman is to the Dems

It is a big deal. there's only 15 days left and this will be in the headlines for probably 3 days taking away 1/5 of the time McCain has to generate some momentum.

No this really isn't a big deal. Who the hell cares who he endorses. Obama already has the black vote so I don't see this changing anything.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No big deal, Colin is to the Repubicans as Liberman is to the Dems

It is a big deal. there's only 15 days left and this will be in the headlines for probably 3 days taking away 1/5 of the time McCain has to generate some momentum.

No this really isn't a big deal. Who the hell cares who he endorses. Obama already has the black vote so I don't see this changing anything.

I bet McCain spent a lot of effort trying to secure Powell's endorsement so he probably thinks it a big deal though he won't admit it until after he loses. Of course it doesn't hurt him as much as picking Palin as his running mate.

 

[WHipLAsh13]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No big deal, Colin is to the Repubicans as Liberman is to the Dems

It is a big deal. there's only 15 days left and this will be in the headlines for probably 3 days taking away 1/5 of the time McCain has to generate some momentum.

No this really isn't a big deal. Who the hell cares who he endorses. Obama already has the black vote so I don't see this changing anything.

I bet McCain spent a lot of effort trying to secure Powell's endorsement so he probably thinks it a big deal though he won't admit it until after he loses. Of course it doesn't hurt him as much as picking Palin as his running mate.

If McCain loses, not getting Powell's endorsement will not even make the top 20 things that went wrong. As a person who has never in his life voted for a Republican President this meant nothing to me.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No big deal, Colin is to the Repubicans as Liberman is to the Dems

It is a big deal. there's only 15 days left and this will be in the headlines for probably 3 days taking away 1/5 of the time McCain has to generate some momentum.

No this really isn't a big deal. Who the hell cares who he endorses. Obama already has the black vote so I don't see this changing anything.

I bet McCain spent a lot of effort trying to secure Powell's endorsement so he probably thinks it a big deal though he won't admit it until after he loses. Of course it doesn't hurt him as much as picking Palin as his running mate.

If McCain loses, not getting Powell's endorsement will not even make the top 20 things that went wrong. As a person who has never in his life voted for a Republican President this meant nothing to me.

It's just one of many things that didn't go his way. It'd be one thing if Powell just said he wanted Obama but the way he pontificated his reason is what makes it so important. He made such a great argument for voting for Obama, at least IMO which I'm sure the McCainites will disagree with just to deflect the truth.

 

[WHipLAsh13]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No big deal, Colin is to the Repubicans as Liberman is to the Dems

It is a big deal. there's only 15 days left and this will be in the headlines for probably 3 days taking away 1/5 of the time McCain has to generate some momentum.

No this really isn't a big deal. Who the hell cares who he endorses. Obama already has the black vote so I don't see this changing anything.

I bet McCain spent a lot of effort trying to secure Powell's endorsement so he probably thinks it a big deal though he won't admit it until after he loses. Of course it doesn't hurt him as much as picking Palin as his running mate.

If McCain loses, not getting Powell's endorsement will not even make the top 20 things that went wrong. As a person who has never in his life voted for a Republican President this meant nothing to me.

It's just one of many things that didn't go his way. It'd be one thing if Powell just said he wanted Obama but the way he pontificated his reason is what makes it so important. He made such a great argument for voting for Obama, at least IMO which I'm sure the McCainites will disagree with just to deflect the truth.

Could have just as easily said some great reasons to vote for McCain and that wouldn't have meant anything either. This is definately not a game changer in any way, shape or form. Powell was put in a bad place here. Either he shuns his party or he shuns his race. He chose right in my opinion.