Colbert: Yet another media capitulation

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outriding

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Yes. Leftist zombies will eat anything.

Colbert was not funny, comparing him to Carson or... practically anyone else, is a desperate fail. If he made your panties feel warm, it wasn't from comedic talent.

Will Colbert be remembered 10 years from now? Nope. Wait. What was his name again? ;) Bye bye rando.

Well. If you actually read the thread you would have known Carson was a talk show host for 10 less years and Colbert has 50% more Emmy’s he has won

If anyone has shitty humor it is you
 

brycejones

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Yes. Leftist zombies will eat anything.

Colbert was not funny, comparing him to Carson or... practically anyone else, is a desperate fail. If he made your panties feel warm, it wasn't from comedic talent.

Will Colbert be remembered 10 years from now? Nope. Wait. What was his name again? ;) Bye bye rando.
Your brain is infected with a parasitic fungus, you should seek medical attention.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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I get the impression that Trump supporters have to do this sort of mental purge every time this admin does something that results in cognitive dissonance (I think Donald Trump is the bestest and I am a staunch supporter of free speech and draining the swamp)!

Frankly I think everyone does it on one level or another (Obama drone striking a US Citizen definitely had folks in pretzels for a bit until everyone settled on "well... the dude was a terrorist shitrag") but Trump is so unprincipled that we just see it on a far regular basis with MAGA.

Trump goes and does something that causes those ideas to slam into each other like tectonic plates and we've are blessed to see what would otherwise be internal dialogues, excuses, justifications of the "Free Speech and Anti-Corruption" plates being subducted by the "I love Trump" plate.
 

VRAMdemon

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Colbert calls Paramount out for making a $16 million dollar bribe to Trump. Paramount cancels his show. But at the same time, the entire company has been making bad business decisions for years.

The Maga base seems to be saying that it’s fair game for a President to silence their critics because those critics “made it political” by attacking the President. They seem quite hostile to the concept of free speech.

It’s also pretty ridiculous to think you have to be a “shill for the Democratic party” to attack Trump. He garners more criticism through his stupidity, cognitive decline, actions and words than any President we’ve ever seen in our lifetime. To not talk about him on a show about daily events would have to be a deliberate decision because he makes himself the dominant piece of news almost every fucking day. He invents things for distraction and purposely wants his bullshit in the front and center of the cameras and mics.

Not much matters to the networks anymore except the amount of advertising revenues a program brings in. And the demographics of the viewers matter to the advertisers. Turning the time over to affiliates is diametrically opposed to growing their bottom line. But - Fuck network television! I haven't watch network tv (other than sports) in years - unless I have to for breaking stories/emergencies.

Colbert, et cetera can all migrate to online platforms which, if not as lucrative also don’t have the massive overhead and corporate pressures of network television, and it isn’t as if these formats have or need massive budgets anyway.
 

nakedfrog

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I get the impression that Trump supporters have to do this sort of mental purge every time this admin does something that results in cognitive dissonance (I think Donald Trump is the bestest and I am a staunch supporter of free speech and draining the swamp)!

Frankly I think everyone does it on one level or another (Obama drone striking a US Citizen definitely had folks in pretzels for a bit until everyone settled on "well... the dude was a terrorist shitrag") but Trump is so unprincipled that we just see it on a far regular basis with MAGA.

Trump goes and does something that causes those ideas to slam into each other like tectonic plates and we've are blessed to see what would otherwise be internal dialogues, excuses, justifications of the "Free Speech and Anti-Corruption" plates being subducted by the "I love Trump" plate.
Well, yes, cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling, and it's much easier to run away from it than it is to confront it and break it down and analyze it. Couple that with conservatives tending to be more governed by fear, and this is what we get. This is part of why you regularly see Greenman running away from conversations that make him think about stuff that's difficult to rationalize.
 
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outriding

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This is bad. Like Russia bad.


South Park are you listening?

If I was CBS. I would ignore it


It’s not like they will cancel the deal

And if they take it to court the government cannot interfere with how a private business runs as long as they are not breaking the law. And they can just say 1st amendment rights
 

Greenman

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Colbert calls Paramount out for making a $16 million dollar bribe to Trump. Paramount cancels his show. But at the same time, the entire company has been making bad business decisions for years.

The Maga base seems to be saying that it’s fair game for a President to silence their critics because those critics “made it political” by attacking the President. They seem quite hostile to the concept of free speech.

It’s also pretty ridiculous to think you have to be a “shill for the Democratic party” to attack Trump. He garners more criticism through his stupidity, cognitive decline, actions and words than any President we’ve ever seen in our lifetime. To not talk about him on a show about daily events would have to be a deliberate decision because he makes himself the dominant piece of news almost every fucking day. He invents things for distraction and purposely wants his bullshit in the front and center of the cameras and mics.

Not much matters to the networks anymore except the amount of advertising revenues a program brings in. And the demographics of the viewers matter to the advertisers. Turning the time over to affiliates is diametrically opposed to growing their bottom line. But - Fuck network television! I haven't watch network tv (other than sports) in years - unless I have to for breaking stories/emergencies.

Colbert, et cetera can all migrate to online platforms which, if not as lucrative also don’t have the massive overhead and corporate pressures of network television, and it isn’t as if these formats have or need massive budgets anyway.
The part in bold has always been the case. Like every single business on the planet, Paramount needs to make enough money to keep the doors open.
 

Greenman

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Maybe Paramount needs new executives who can figure out how to appropriately monetize a number one rated show.
That could well be the case. I have no idea how much revenue a show with two and a half million viewers is expected to produce. The negative part of the equation (40 million) amounts to around $16 per viewer per season. That seems like a lot to me, but I have absolutely no information to base that on. It could be perfectly reasonable for Paramount to up prices by $16 per viewer.
 

MrSquished

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Letterman ripped Paramount/Skydance.

He also said something like Skydance? What the fuck is that, a discount airline? lolol
 

outriding

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That could well be the case. I have no idea how much revenue a show with two and a half million viewers is expected to produce. The negative part of the equation (40 million) amounts to around $16 per viewer per season. That seems like a lot to me, but I have absolutely no information to base that on. It could be perfectly reasonable for Paramount to up prices by $16 per viewer.

well if you want to do math

for the deal cbs just made for south park that is 60 per person per episode.

again if 16 is too much then why is 60 ok?

the only other varible is trump not liking colbert..

i just dont understand why you will not see that.
 
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fskimospy

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I don't even see the point in this discussion. Nobody can see CBS's books so there's no way to know but what we do know is there is no way in hell they would ever admit to being blackmailed into canceling a show.

So could it be a financial decision? Of course. If it weren't would they ever admit it? Of course not. This should be obvious to everyone.
 

Greenman

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well if you want to do math

for the deal cbs just made for south park that is 60 per person per episode.

again if 16 is too much then why is 60 ok?

the only other varible is trump not liking colbert..

i just dont understand why you will not see that.
I don't see it because the network said it isn't the reason.
If CBS canned Colbert to appease Trump they made a terrible mistake. They should have gone public with the demand.

I'll also note that if Colbert is a money maker some other network will hire him. A known and popular personality is a valuable commodity in the entertainment industry.
 
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NWRMidnight

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I don't see it because the network said it isn't the reason.
If CBS canned Colbert to appease Trump they made a terrible mistake. They should have gone public with the demand.

I'll also note that if Colbert is a money maker some other network will hire him. A known and popular personality is a valuable commodity in the entertainment industry.
So you are saying that networks/bussinesses don't lie? You take everything they say at face value? Seriously?

Actually, it really is no suprise that you believe CBS, as you still believe that Trump is a moral honest man, who has never lied to you or the people of this country. All though he lies 99% of the time, and is breaking laws left and right, yet you don't see it. Kinda of why you can't see that CBS is lying about this, because it involves your boy Trump. But I guess it's hard to see the truth when you have Trump's orange saggy balls in your face all day.
 

Fenixgoon

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I don't even see the point in this discussion. Nobody can see CBS's books so there's no way to know but what we do know is there is no way in hell they would ever admit to being blackmailed into canceling a show.

So could it be a financial decision? Of course. If it weren't would they ever admit it? Of course not. This should be obvious to everyone.
Sure but they could have cancelled him long a ago if he were losing money consistently
 

nakedfrog

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So you are saying that networks/bussinesses don't lie? You take everything they say at face value? Seriously?
If it fits his feels, yes, if it doesn't, no.
Actually, it really is no suprise that you believe CBS, as you still believe that Trump is a moral honest man, who has never lied to you or the people of this country. All though he lies 99% of the time, and is breaking laws left and right, yet you don't see it. Kinda of why you can't see that CBS is lying about this, because it involves your boy Trump. But I guess it's hard to see the truth when you have Trump's orange saggy balls in your face all day.
Nah, he knows he voted for a prolific liar, but the liar had direction and vision (fascism) and he liked that (because he's a fascist). No price is too great to pay to punish the immigrant underclass and those awful trans people.