Co-worker never tips and refuses to

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Lothar
If I'm not pleased with the service, I'd only put down my $9.95 share. Forget $10.
Whether I'm eating alone or with other people is irrelevant.

Tips supposed to be earned, not given by birth right.

Bring my lunch to work? I already do that because I know how to cook.
I don't go to restaurants more than 5x a year on average.

I see how you roll...you don't count tax and you think you are entitled to eat out and be served as if you had a private waiter.

Just stay home with your mac and cheese.

Most know how to cook, most choose to eat out to get out of cooking. Nice try at making yourself out to be ghettosuperstar, y0.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: DLeRium
I'm also annoyed when people fail to tip properly in big groups.

It's your order +25% (accounts for tax and 15% tip), but we always end up short. Then guess what, me who makes sure I did my +25% has to shell out another $ because some idiot clearly didn't calculate. So the thing I do now is to walk around with the check and ask who ordered what, and then do the +25% in my head and tell them to hand over the cash. Although I usually don't end up counting money for big groups, I've done it twice with checks over $200 and it's worked flawlessly.

This is the main reason most restaurants add in the tip. It's so it can be divided. You get a couple idiots like Lothar and the his ilk that figures since they had to wait 30 secs at some point in the meal they should just pay the entree price (they already recorded in their PDA nad even captured it via cam) and one dude will be paying for the tip and the tax.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: crystal
Why the hell is there tipping system in the first place? Why not just put on the menu = food's price + a certain % for "service render"
When you expect people to "tip" every single time, then that is not consider tipping any more but should be consider a hidden cost of food for eating out.
About bad service, do you put up with bad workers or do you fire them and hire a new one?

Because it was created by those in a class above you. Avoiding tipping unfortunately is still the way people eat out, get bags carried, etc and at the same time walk around bragging how important that are..

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: BouZouki
Yup, the United States is the only country we're tips are expected I believe.

I don't care for the system.

That being said, I will usually tip 15% but that can vary GREATLY based on my service and I will bring it down to 0% if I have to,

Wrong, and the food is priced accordingly because of it.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: alkemyst


So this 40% tip gets awarded never as I am sure because the server missed the second your glass was half full you dropped the tip to 10%.

You might want to go back & re-read my post again slowly.

And then go find sombody else to argue with.

Seriously how many 40% tips have you left that weren't something like $2 for a $5 beer.

I can remember tipping 50% more than once..
The food was fast and delicious, the waitress remembered our names, was spot on with her recommendations, our glasses never got below 1/3 full and the place was packed.

I have asked to speak to managers before to tell them how well or piss-poor someone was. You can make someone's day or ruin that way...

Waiters and waitresses remember tippers and cheapskates

 

[alkemyst]

A place can be at capacity if they properly have servers in place for it's level of service. Things like Fridays and Applebee's budget in wait times much longer than a place putting more less tables per server. Like I said, some places will have 1 server per table or better. The problem is people want to eat cheap and be treated like a king.

We have all overheard these assholes in a restaurant making demands and complications...there is one guy from our social circle I refuse to eat with. He never tips and will actually stop watch the time at the table vs time the server visited, asks for ingredient lists and then makes substitutions and then complains when the food tastes bad. For his steaks he will cut out pieces that may be one level above or below the 'temperature' he ordered at...he even explains how much ice he wants in a glass. Each one of these things he has some rationale why...like the ice one he cames is because he has sensitive teeth.

It doesn't stop there though, in cars with digital temps he needs the temp at '69', because 70 is too hot and 68 is too cold.

 

[SolMiester]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: SolMiester

Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Maybe he feels he should pay the amount listed on the menu for the items ordered and not some magical extra amount that isn't listed anywhere.

Tipping USED to be incentive for the waiter/waitress to do a good job - now days everyone has been programmed to tip automatically regardless of what service they get. Result? Service has gone down and people who don't tip are labeled "ass hats".

In a nutshell, if the company paid their workers appropriately, tipping wouldnt be required......

I do NOT tip EVER!

In fact, America is the only place in the world where tipping is expected, that I know of and i have travelled over 30 countries....

You're a cheap asshat. If you don't like the system in place HERE then stay the fuck home and eat by your miserable self.

Dont tell me you are 'IC7500', cheap PM's of abuse.....If its not you I apologise, however, just because I have a view that differs from your does make me a cheap asshat. Get a grip.

Once again I say, only Amercian's expect a tip!, I'm not in America...duh!

Perhap in America posters get stressed or something and you have to post crap like that to make yourself feel good about yourself\country, I'm not sure, however your post IS a waste of space!

 

[imported_yovonbishop]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: yovonbishop
Well, I've waitressed and I must say, the people that don't tip when they get good service are pretty much jerks. I worked my ass off for tips (i.e., meeting people's special demands and getting food there in a timely manner, etc). I've always got on a smile and never get any complaints. Yet, it seems that some people just don't tip. I mean, I guess it's their prerogative, but what they don't realize is that what waitresses do is hard work (if they do the job right) and that they rely on that money!

As for the laws about minimum wage, yes, waitresses get paid a lower minimum wage, but if it is not met with tips employers are SUPPOSED to make up the difference. As far as I'm concerned, making minimum wage working at a job as physically demanding as waitressing isn't enough and so people should tip at least a little bit anyway to show some sort of gratitude.

....that's your job.

I tip, generally 20% or more unless the service was bad, but I hate the practice. I think it's absurd that you are assumed to tip - and I think it's even more absurd that restaurants factor tips into wages. You shouldn't be complaining about the sub-par tipping customers, you should be complaining about the sub-par paying restaurant.

It's a complaint on both ends. Then again, I guess I'm also an absurd tipper when I go to restaurants because after working in one I have a new found respect for wait staff.

 

[marincounty]

I suppose some of you that don't like the tipping system here in America would prefer the method that Europe uses. A service charge is added to your bill, regardless of the quality of service. Do you think that this encourages Euro waiters to be better?

A buddy of mine is rich and a big tipper. We often ate at a modest Chinese restaurant and he always left at least a $20 tip. The awesome thing was, the waiters recognized me as his guest, and would give me great service even when my buddy wasn't around, quickly bringing drinks without having to ask, and ordering things not on the menu.
My buddy also tipped the guy at the deli making sandwiches very well, and suprise, suprise, we had huge fat pastrami sandwiches in the bag.

I have another friend, a big drinker, and he always gives the barmaid a huge tip on the first round. I saw the reason for the big tip later, when the bar was very crowded, my buddy just caught the waitresses eye and made a circle in the air for another round.
Our table was served another round of drinks, pronto, and the waitress of course remembered what we were drinking.

This is America, you get what you pay for.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: SolMiester

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: SolMiester

Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Maybe he feels he should pay the amount listed on the menu for the items ordered and not some magical extra amount that isn't listed anywhere.

Tipping USED to be incentive for the waiter/waitress to do a good job - now days everyone has been programmed to tip automatically regardless of what service they get. Result? Service has gone down and people who don't tip are labeled "ass hats".

In a nutshell, if the company paid their workers appropriately, tipping wouldnt be required......

I do NOT tip EVER!

In fact, America is the only place in the world where tipping is expected, that I know of and i have travelled over 30 countries....

You're a cheap asshat. If you don't like the system in place HERE then stay the fuck home and eat by your miserable self.

Dont tell me you are 'IC7500', cheap PM's of abuse.....If its not you I apologise, however, just because I have a view that differs from your does make me a cheap asshat. Get a grip.

Once again I say, only Amercian's expect a tip!, I'm not in America...duh!

Perhap in America posters get stressed or something and you have to post crap like that to make yourself feel good about yourself\country, I'm not sure, however your post IS a waste of space!

My post wasn't to pump up myself or my country. Actually, I'm pretty disappointed with the direction of the US lately but that's another story. My post was calling you a cheap asshat if you never tip because that's what you are if you don't.

You're wrong when you say only American's expect a tip. Tipping may be different in other countries but in the ones I've visited (Canada, Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Philippines) the people tipped in all of them. Also the wait staff in the airport bars of Korea, Hong Kong, and Tokyo all received tips.

By the way, the OP is in the US and from what I saw most of the posters who responded are either in the US or specified where they are. Believe it or not I don't click on the profile of people before posting - 1/2 of them are blank anyway.

 

[SolMiester]

Robor, I give i have been to the 30 countries not including the ones you listed, however those are all fairly much American influenced, i'm not here to dis the US mate, i have seen this thread a number of times.....i guess those from outside of those countries just dont understand the tipping mentality.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Maybe he feels he should pay the amount listed on the menu for the items ordered and not some magical extra amount that isn't listed anywhere.

Tipping USED to be incentive for the waiter/waitress to do a good job - now days everyone has been programmed to tip automatically regardless of what service they get. Result? Service has gone down and people who don't tip are labeled "ass hats".

Asshat.