Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Siwy
Why do I make you sick? Because I?m against any kind of terrorism ~ be it suicide bombers or cluster bombs?
You?re a dolt.
You do not know what the word ?terrorism? means if you think that IDF does not terrorize innocent civilians.
Terrorism - the systematic use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective.
That is exactly what IDF is doing, and we know that not only by their actions but also by their intend which was made recently clear by Olmert: ?I want nobody to sleep at night in Gaza. I want them to know what its like? ~ that?s terrorism pal.
Retard.
Whenever Israel begins putting the hurt on someone, the UN & US always rush in to form a cease fire. Wouldn't want to offend those pesky oil arab ties now would we?
Funny, no major news agency reported that 1/3 of the evacuating non-lebanese citizens in lebanon are from Dearborne MI. The only support hezbollah gets from the US is from dear borne MI...hmmm....
Israel is taking into consideration that this is an urban environment. They could end it in a second, but they have made the sad decision (sad because whatever decision they make, the western world will always criticize it) to take the more difficult route.
Nobody cares about slavery in Saudi Arabia. Nobody cares about the massecres between jordan-palastinians. Nobody cares about facts.
They care about innocent civilian deaths. They don't wanna hear about Iran, Saudi Arabia and Syria funding Hezbollah. They don't want to hear that a CNN reporter embellshed civilian death toll in Lebanon (which he admited).
Major news coverage of this war, or any war is bogus. This companies are being funded by arab investors, even Faux news.
Saying something politicially incorrect (like Israel success) will get you fired or kidnapped.
History has proven time after time after time Israel always has come out on top even on the worst case scenario.
If I'm correct, Israel was attacked. Lebanon is a pro-hezbollah government, Hezbollah pretty much runs the show. Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran openly fund Hezbollah.
They have 20,000 members strong and new recruits everyday. The arab nations had years to take care of Hezbollah, but what do they do? Nothing. They sit back and write them a check.
Even if Hezbollah and Islamic sects have disagreements, they both have one goal. Get rid of Israel.
They wanted to get rid of Israel from the get-go. Any half intelligent person knows about the UN-Israel-Arab preace treaty back in the 50's where Israel offered 95% of the land the palastinians originally lived on when they fled during the 6 day war. They declined. Israel requested that if the palastinians didn't like the treaty, they should modify it and send it back. They declined.
Israel was attacked, Israel has always been attacked yet the industrial nations all seem to pin the blame on Israel when the true source of the problem is obvious.
On a side note, more palastinians and more people have been murdered by Arab terrorists and countries (Jordan and Syria) then Israel has ever and those acts were on purpose.
UN is heavily influenced by the arab nations since they pretty much control the oil industry, you piss off the arab world, say bye-bye to oil. They'll sell all of it to China.
That is so retarded.
Arab countries are the one taking advantage of the palastinians. They control the refugee camps. They fund the jidhadist camps for kids.
They use the palastinians as a bargining chip to wipe Israel off the map.
Remember when Israel offeredd the palastinians almost 95% of their original land even after the surprise attack by neighboring countries?
They rejected it. This obviously shows that the arab world doesn't want peace. They want Israel gone.
Arab world has killed more palastinians then Israel 10/1.
What a bunch of bology.
No country can long term spend 50% of its GNP on the military. Nor does the USA neeed Israel in any way. And without US financial support, the military in Israel would collaspe in a number of years.
Anually, Israel spends
9.4 of it's GNP on military.
Israel isn't the best because of America. Israel is the best because of Israel.
United States main reason for funding Israel is because of the benefit of their highly trained engineers who modify and create their weapons.
In return, we send them 150 billion a year. Unlike the Islamic Theocracy, all they want is to survive. They are the best because they have to be the best.
Without Israel's highly trained engineers the US can kiss the worlds greatest military good bye. The US cares more about Iran's, North Korea's and China's growing militarys and they will do anything to make sure our military is the best. If that mean's investing 150 bil. a year into Israel, so be it.
Israel could easily subcontract military weapons out to other countries like China or North Korea if it got to the point where the US no longer wanted to support Israel. However, im pretty sure the US wouldn't risk the chance of Israeli weapons being exports to enemy countries.
We must all realise---even though the press here is biased---that Israel is very much the bad guy here.
Oh we do? Someones a bit anti-semetic..
How is Israel the bad guy?
Because they want to get rid of their largest enemy in the region? An enemy that, for nearly 10 years has been openly funded by Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Sryia. An enemy that is loved by it's people, and takes advantage of an unstable government to attack Israel.
The western and arab world had years to get rid of Hezbollah, (them being the biggest islamic terrorist military in the world...) but they do nothing. In fact, the Arab world FUNDS hezbollah, but no western country wants to offend them in fear of losing oil ties.
To accuse Israel of being the aggressor, enemy, on-the-offensive is complete mumbo jumbo. I personally believe Israel should be sending in more missles into Lebanon instead of moving Infantry into the country. The world is going to criticize what they do and side with the pro-hezbollah community either way so why should they risk more military casulties?
It's stupid to say Israel only attacked Hezbollah for 2 captures soldiers.
2 captures soldiers vs 500 civilian deaths=big bad wolf
No. Hezbollah has ONE GOAL. Kill jews. Kill Israeli's. Period. Israel has been wanting to bomb hezbollah for the past 5 years, and this was their chance. It's not like the UN or Arab countries did anything to contribute funds into anti-hezbollah campaigns that didn't involve massive military involvement in the past. (They do just the opposite)
Nobody cares about that.
Civilian death count is obviously embellshed (The first on-site reporting reporters were lebanese and I did a fact check on some of the recent reporters from yahoo.com) Apparently they have a nasty habit of over-exaggerating death statistics in relation to Israel-arab conflicts.
And with a kick ass military Israel can get away with being the bad guy. And without such a kick ass military, Israel would have to make a realistic peace with its Arab neighbors..
This is retarded. Israel doesn't want to wipe the arab world off the wipe. Israel doesn't want to world domination or a jewish earth. No, they want to SURVIVE.
Saying Israel has a kick ass military is an understatement, and total mumbo jumbo if you wish to use that as a justification for putting the country down. They make themselves the best.
Despite limited natural resources, Israel has intensively developed its agricultural and industrial sectors over the past 20 years. Israel is largely self-sufficient in food production except for grains and beef
Which hardly makes the Arab neigbors the good guys either. But right now its not the Arab neighboring countries that are the problems
WHAT?---
its the terrorists who act independently of governments that are the problem.
Where do you think Hezbollah, Hamas or any Islamic Jidhadist org. get their funding from?
Take a guess. NEIGHBORING ARAB COUNTRIES. Have you seen any anti-hezbollah Islamic Theocracy? Uh? This is what the people want. They may not love Hezbollah, but they certainly hate Israel and if that means supporting Hezbollah....
It's not like Lebanese civilians were trying to get out of Lebanon, no they like Hezbollah. They provide jobs, money and resources that the s**ty government can't. The government needs Hezbollah because they act as the state-police. Somebody saying to much to the public? F**k em, go get him Hezzy.
Isn't it time to realise we need some international binding arbitration to settle this mid-east problem?
Is that a euphamism for f**k Israel? God, you are filled with s**t to the brim.
I have my own opinion and agenda, but at least I don't hide behind a wall made out of s**t.
Without U.S. military and monetary support ($6 billion/year), Israel wouldn't have all those fancy missiles, helicopters, jets that are doing such a awesome job of destruction in the nation of Lebanon today.
Wow. Good ol' public schols.
Let's face it, Israel has no real natural resources and no real industry. All it does is ask for handouts from U.S. and Germany (reparations).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Military_Industries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Aircraft_Industries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Israel
Israel has a technologically advanced market economy with substantial government participation. It depends on imports of fossil fuels (crude oil, natural gas, and coal), grains, beef, raw materials, and military equipment.
Despite limited natural resources, Israel has intensively developed its agricultural and industrial sectors over the past 20 years. Israel is largely self-sufficient in food production except for grains and beef. Diamonds, high technology, military equipment, software, pharmaceuticals, fine chemicals, and agricultural products (fruits, vegetables and flowers) are leading exports.Israel usually posts sizable current account deficits, which are covered by large transfer payments from abroad and by foreign loans (although some economists would say the deficit is a sign of Israel's advancing markets). Israel possesses extensive facilities for oil refining, diamond polishing, and semiconductor fabrication.
You're a ****** retard.
What does the U.S. get in return? Pro-Israeli Propaganda[/i]
You're an idiot.
Tesxt-book arab influenced uneducated f**k.
Btw, you know you've met an Israeli loyalist by their never ending support of Israel and immediate dismissal of anything factual or anything worthy of investigation that goes against Israeli support. Due to such obvious bias, you can't take their arguments seriously.
Oh the hypocracy.
You seriously should consider reading an actual book instead of watching propanda hate site bs videos.
The only "modifying" that Israel does is to paint an Israeli flag on the side of the F16 that THE USA GAVE TO THEM!!! Any idiot can do that. I CAN DO THAT!!! ROFL.
The IDF is considered to be one of the most high-tech armies in the world, possessing top-of-the-line weapons and computer systems,
Some of it American-made or indigenously modified (such as the M4A1 assault rifle, F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon jets and Apache helicopter). Israel receives more than US$2 billion per year in military aid from the United States, and much of it requires that American equipment be purchased with it.
In spite of this however, Israel also has developed its own independent weapons industry. Weapons such as the Merkava battle tank, Kfir jet series, and various small arms such as the Galil assault rifle and Uzi submachine gun have all proven to be very successful.
The IDF also has several large internal research and development departments, and it purchases many technologies produced by the Israeli security industries including IAI, IMI, Elbit, El-Op, Rafael, Soltam and dozens of smaller firms. Many of these developments have been battle-tested in Israel's numerous military engagements, making the relationship mutually beneficial, the IDF getting tailor-made solutions and the industries a very high repute.
Israel's military technology is most famous for its
guns, armored fighting vehicles (tanks, tank-converted APCs, armoured bulldozers etc) and rocketry (missiles and rockets). Israel also
designs and in some cases it has
manufactured aircraft (Kfir, Lavi; both discontinued) and naval systems (patrol and missile ships). Much of the IDF's electronic systems (intelligence, communication, command and control, navigation etc.) are Israeli-developed, including many systems installed on foreign platforms (esp. aircraft, tanks and submarines). So are many of its precision-guided munitions.
Israel and the United States are the only countries in the world with an anti-ballistic missile defense system ("Hetz", Arrow, or Patriot (U.S.) developed with funding and technology from the United States), though an operational system is in place protecting the Moscow area.
Israel is also working with the U.S. on development of a tactical high energy laser system against medium range rockets (called Nautilus THEL).
IMPORTANT:
Israel has the independent capability of launching reconnaissance satellites into orbit (a capability which only Russia, the United States, the United Kingdom, France, the People's Republic of China, India and Japan hold). Both the satellites (Ofeq) and the launchers (Shavit) were developed by the Israeli security industries.
Why don't they just build their own military equipment if they're so good at it?
They do.
Israel is not capable of building anything of any significance. They are a welfare state, wholly dependant upon the USA for their existance.
Get clue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces#Israeli_military_technology
This idea that Israel is feeding off of American Life Support is bogus.
another invention made by Israel"
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/200...eron-uavs-to-india-australia/index.php
