CNN reporter admits: "I transmitted Hizballah propaganda"

[Siwy]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Harabec

Originally posted by: peachee
Israel keeps the fight going with conventional weapons so: they can ask the U.S. for continual FREE funding and weaponry. Apparently, by attacking other nations and announcing that it is defending itself and needs more cash is the only way Israel can survive.

What a pathetic way to exist Israel. Seriously!

And with $6 billion/year U.S. tax payers money! 🙁

If you really believe this, all I can say is that I'm sorry for you.
We try to minimize civilian casualties by sending ground troops to deal with Hizballah members instead of bombing an entire town out of existance.
The wounded and dead soldiers in Bint Jbail are the price we pay for that.

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

What is even more disturbing and contradicting to your statements is that Israeli security cabinet decided to continue and even step up the bombardment.

The reason they haven?t done so in Bint Jbeil and went in with ground forces is because it has a strategic value to Israel. But you know...keep twisting the facts to suit your "point of view".

i guess you forgot about all the homicide bombers Hezbollah sent into isreal didnt you. after all you didnt post any links to the aftermath of a bomb going off in a nightclub or public bus. but by your standards Isreal is evil and cant protect itself, if they do they are war criminals and terrorist.

Where are you links to the rockets killing kids in Isreal?

you make me sick.

Why do I make you sick? Because I?m against any kind of terrorism ~ be it suicide bombers or cluster bombs?

You?re a dolt.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Harabec

Originally posted by: peachee
Israel keeps the fight going with conventional weapons so: they can ask the U.S. for continual FREE funding and weaponry. Apparently, by attacking other nations and announcing that it is defending itself and needs more cash is the only way Israel can survive.

What a pathetic way to exist Israel. Seriously!

And with $6 billion/year U.S. tax payers money! 🙁

If you really believe this, all I can say is that I'm sorry for you.
We try to minimize civilian casualties by sending ground troops to deal with Hizballah members instead of bombing an entire town out of existance.
The wounded and dead soldiers in Bint Jbail are the price we pay for that.

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

What is even more disturbing and contradicting to your statements is that Israeli security cabinet decided to continue and even step up the bombardment.

The reason they haven?t done so in Bint Jbeil and went in with ground forces is because it has a strategic value to Israel. But you know...keep twisting the facts to suit your "point of view".

i guess you forgot about all the homicide bombers Hezbollah sent into isreal didnt you. after all you didnt post any links to the aftermath of a bomb going off in a nightclub or public bus. but by your standards Isreal is evil and cant protect itself, if they do they are war criminals and terrorist.

Where are you links to the rockets killing kids in Isreal?

you make me sick.

Why do I make you sick? Because I?m against any kind of terrorism ~ be it suicide bombers or cluster bombs?

True - However, given that you support the Palestinians in the use of "terrorism" against Israel for what ever agenda, it seems two faced.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: rchiu
Haha, they probably would if they could. Only problem is that the nuclear waste would probably fly over to Israel. You ppl really got no shame in your one sided support for Israel. Facts, Israel killed more, destroyed more. It is not just little more, it is multiple times more. And most of the people they killed are civilians, women and children, not enemy soldiers and terrorists.

Nobody will have problem is Israelis is actually killing Hezbollah or Hamas who have attacked them. The problem is, they are not, they are killing, injuring and displacing civilian. Their response is disporportionate and against the wrong people. Same thing they have been doing for the past 40 year. Don't know how ppl who have a shred of compassion can support a country that has been doing that for the past 40 years.

Don't know how you can support a group thats policy is to kill civlians. Says alot about you.

Which part of my arguement "supported" Hamas or Hezbollah? I said Israelis can kill all the Hamas or Hezbollah all they want didn't I? I am abviously supportting lebanon/Palestinian civilian and their right to have a normal life, I admit that, did those civilian have the policy to kill Israelis?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: rchiu
Haha, they probably would if they could. Only problem is that the nuclear waste would probably fly over to Israel. You ppl really got no shame in your one sided support for Israel. Facts, Israel killed more, destroyed more. It is not just little more, it is multiple times more. And most of the people they killed are civilians, women and children, not enemy soldiers and terrorists.

Nobody will have problem is Israelis is actually killing Hezbollah or Hamas who have attacked them. The problem is, they are not, they are killing, injuring and displacing civilian. Their response is disporportionate and against the wrong people. Same thing they have been doing for the past 40 year. Don't know how ppl who have a shred of compassion can support a country that has been doing that for the past 40 years.

Don't know how you can support a group thats policy is to kill civlians. Says alot about you.

Which part of my arguement "supported" Hamas or Hezbollah? I said Israelis can kill all the Hamas or Hezbollah all they want didn't I? I am abviously supportting lebanon/Palestinian civilian and their right to have a normal life, I admit that, did those civilian have the policy to kill Israelis?

Do you support Israel's civilians to have a normal life?

 

[Siwy]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: Siwy
Why do I make you sick? Because I?m against any kind of terrorism ~ be it suicide bombers or cluster bombs?

True - However, given that you support the Palestinians in the use of "terrorism" against Israel for what ever agenda, it seems two faced.

Really? Provide one ounce of evidence I support any kind of terrorism.

 

[Jaskalas]

Because you lie with distorted facts.

If Israel bombed an entire town, the entire town?s population would be the death toll. Telling us:

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

Is a complete fabrication. You?re merely correlating the removal of infrastructure and military targets with genocide because of your agenda of buying into the terrorist PR.

 

[Siwy]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Because you lie with distorted facts.

If Israel bombed an entire town, the entire town?s population would be the death toll. Telling us:

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

Is a complete fabrication. You?re merely correlating the removal of infrastructure and military targets with genocide because of your agenda of buying into the terrorist PR.

Not necessarily so, exodus of the Lebanese population prevented the deaths while the towns are still being bombed out of existence and those that chose not to leave or were not able to leave are still dying.

Which facts did I distort? The facts on the pictures? Do you want me to find you some more?

 

[rchiu]

dp

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: RichardE


Do you support Israel's civilians to have a normal life?

At the expense of 100+ Lebanese civilan for every Israeli civilian? Nope.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Because you lie with distorted facts.

If Israel bombed an entire town, the entire town?s population would be the death toll. Telling us:

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

Is a complete fabrication. You?re merely correlating the removal of infrastructure and military targets with genocide because of your agenda of buying into the terrorist PR.

Not necessarily so, exodus of the Lebanese population prevented the deaths while the towns are still being bombed out of existence and those that chose not to leave or were not able to leave are still dying.

Which facts did I distort? The facts on the pictures? Do you want me to find you some more?

You come here to tell us Israel has destroyed entire towns by citing the very few who have died. It is your perception that this cost is out of scale, and not worth it for defeating Hezbollah. This is the single thing terrorism has on its side.

This is war, people die in war. If you don't like it you can go bring wine and roses to Hezbollah and beg them to stop if you think they are so innocent of causing this. I on the other hand would rather persuade them with a simple choice. They can surrender or die.

Yet you would protect them from that choice, enabling their use of human shields as an effective tool.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: RichardE


Do you support Israel's civilians to have a normal life?

At the expense of 100+ Lebanese civilan for every Israeli civilian? Nope.

Does your history start after Hez kidnapped soldiers? This is a tit for tat battle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_against_Israel_in_2000

That is a good site for all the deaths just from the Palestinian/Israel conflict. If you go through and read the entire list you will notice three major things.

The numbers for Israel deaths and Palestinian deaths are roughly the same save for one year.

The majority of Israel deaths are civilians, killed in cafe's, kidnapped, killed by missiles lobied at civilians.

The majority of Palestinian deaths involve armed palestinians.

So again, if you want to ignore the terror inflicted upon the Israel people who just want peace so you can defend a people who support (majority wise) Hez (whos policy is to kill Israel civilians) than that is fine. As I said, it says alot about you.

 

[Siwy]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Because you lie with distorted facts.

If Israel bombed an entire town, the entire town?s population would be the death toll. Telling us:

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

Is a complete fabrication. You?re merely correlating the removal of infrastructure and military targets with genocide because of your agenda of buying into the terrorist PR.

Not necessarily so, exodus of the Lebanese population prevented the deaths while the towns are still being bombed out of existence and those that chose not to leave or were not able to leave are still dying.

Which facts did I distort? The facts on the pictures? Do you want me to find you some more?

You come here to tell us Israel has destroyed entire towns by citing the very few who have died. It is your perception that this cost is out of scale, and not worth it for defeating Hezbollah. This is the single thing terrorism has on its side.

This is war, people die in war. If you don't like it you can go bring wine and roses to Hezbollah and beg them to stop if you think they are so innocent of causing this. I on the other hand would rather persuade them with a simple choice. They can surrender or die.

Yet you would protect them from that choice, enabling their use of human shields as an effective tool.

Is really 600 Lebanese deaths ?very few? in your twisted little world? How would you feel if it was 600 Jews that died? That would be horrible, wouldn?t it?

I don?t think anyone here wants Hezbollah or Hamas to exists, at least not the terrorist factions. It is the method of their removal that differentiates terrorist supporters (you) and those that care about innocent lives no matter what their religion or origins.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Because you lie with distorted facts.

If Israel bombed an entire town, the entire town?s population would be the death toll. Telling us:

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

Is a complete fabrication. You?re merely correlating the removal of infrastructure and military targets with genocide because of your agenda of buying into the terrorist PR.

Not necessarily so, exodus of the Lebanese population prevented the deaths while the towns are still being bombed out of existence and those that chose not to leave or were not able to leave are still dying.

Which facts did I distort? The facts on the pictures? Do you want me to find you some more?

You come here to tell us Israel has destroyed entire towns by citing the very few who have died. It is your perception that this cost is out of scale, and not worth it for defeating Hezbollah. This is the single thing terrorism has on its side.

This is war, people die in war. If you don't like it you can go bring wine and roses to Hezbollah and beg them to stop if you think they are so innocent of causing this. I on the other hand would rather persuade them with a simple choice. They can surrender or die.

Yet you would protect them from that choice, enabling their use of human shields as an effective tool.

Is really 600 Lebanese deaths ?very few? in your twisted little world? How would you feel if it was 600 Jews that died? That would be horrible, wouldn?t it?

I don?t think anyone here wants Hezbollah or Hamas to exists, at least not the terrorist factions. It is the method of their removal that differentiates terrorist supporters (you) and those that care about innocent lives no matter what their religion or origins.

It's happened, many times over. 1000 civilians were dead as of October 2004, and that was starting to count in 2000. This was also during supposed peacefull times..

You forgot the people of south Lebannon voted Hez into power, the people of palestine voted Hamas into power. These parties represent the people of those areas.

To call a nation a terrorist nation that defends itself after being attacked by another nation is pathetic and simple minded. Was Israel suppose to sit back and allow its people to be killed? Or perhaps they should continue talks with an organization whose sole purpose is to destroy them? If people actually thought this through they might make the sense, instead we get "Oh my, 400 dead cilians, Israel are terrorists. Saying this as you ignore the fact that Israel had to builb bomb shelters for all its people due to real terrorist attacks (attacks during time of peace on the civilian population, deliberate).

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: RichardE


Do you support Israel's civilians to have a normal life?

At the expense of 100+ Lebanese civilan for every Israeli civilian? Nope.

Does your history start after Hez kidnapped soldiers? This is a tit for tat battle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_against_Israel_in_2000

That is a good site for all the deaths just from the Palestinian/Israel conflict. If you go through and read the entire list you will notice three major things.

The numbers for Israel deaths and Palestinian deaths are roughly the same save for one year.

The majority of Israel deaths are civilians, killed in cafe's, kidnapped, killed by missiles lobied at civilians.

The majority of Palestinian deaths involve armed palestinians.

So again, if you want to ignore the terror inflicted upon the Israel people who just want peace so you can defend a people who support (majority wise) Hez (whos policy is to kill Israel civilians) than that is fine. As I said, it says alot about you.

Heh, I guess this is your way of saying Israel got no excuse for this incursion into Lebanon. That's why you gotta pull something from the past to cover for this current event.

Even if you wanna talk about the past, I dunno where you get your stat. Most ppl have the death toll for the Intifada at 3:1 (and Israeli human rights group too). This doesn't even include the hundreds of thousands Palestinian living in refugee camps now as a results of all the conflicts.

So again, who is inflicting more terror? And why is Israeli inflicting terror on civilian? I know terrorists inflict terror on Israeli civilian, that's why they are called terrorists. But why is Israeli doing the same as a nation?

 

[Siwy]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Because you lie with distorted facts.

If Israel bombed an entire town, the entire town?s population would be the death toll. Telling us:

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

Is a complete fabrication. You?re merely correlating the removal of infrastructure and military targets with genocide because of your agenda of buying into the terrorist PR.

Not necessarily so, exodus of the Lebanese population prevented the deaths while the towns are still being bombed out of existence and those that chose not to leave or were not able to leave are still dying.

Which facts did I distort? The facts on the pictures? Do you want me to find you some more?

You come here to tell us Israel has destroyed entire towns by citing the very few who have died. It is your perception that this cost is out of scale, and not worth it for defeating Hezbollah. This is the single thing terrorism has on its side.

This is war, people die in war. If you don't like it you can go bring wine and roses to Hezbollah and beg them to stop if you think they are so innocent of causing this. I on the other hand would rather persuade them with a simple choice. They can surrender or die.

Yet you would protect them from that choice, enabling their use of human shields as an effective tool.

Is really 600 Lebanese deaths ?very few? in your twisted little world? How would you feel if it was 600 Jews that died? That would be horrible, wouldn?t it?

I don?t think anyone here wants Hezbollah or Hamas to exists, at least not the terrorist factions. It is the method of their removal that differentiates terrorist supporters (you) and those that care about innocent lives no matter what their religion or origins.

It's happened, many times over. 1000 civilians were dead as of October 2004, and that was starting to count in 2000. This was also during supposed peacefull times..

You forgot the people of south Lebannon voted Hez into power, the people of palestine voted Hamas into power. These parties represent the people of those areas.

To call a nation a terrorist nation that defends itself after being attacked by another nation is pathetic and simple minded. Was Israel suppose to sit back and allow its people to be killed? Or perhaps they should continue talks with an organization whose sole purpose is to destroy them? If people actually thought this through they might make the sense, instead we get "Oh my, 400 dead cilians, Israel are terrorists. Saying this as you ignore the fact that Israel had to builb bomb shelters for all its people due to real terrorist attacks (attacks during time of peace on the civilian population, deliberate).

It?s like talking to a retarded kid. I?m talking about this present situation. If you want to talk about 2000-2004 period you know perfectly well that many more innocent people died from Israeli bombs not to mention suffered oppression and collective punishment ~ a situation that would make you shed tears if it happened to Jews. But since it does not happen to Jews who live in ?relative? safety and comfort you don?t giver a rat?s ass, because you are a bigot.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: RichardE


Do you support Israel's civilians to have a normal life?

At the expense of 100+ Lebanese civilan for every Israeli civilian? Nope.

Does your history start after Hez kidnapped soldiers? This is a tit for tat battle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_against_Israel_in_2000

That is a good site for all the deaths just from the Palestinian/Israel conflict. If you go through and read the entire list you will notice three major things.

The numbers for Israel deaths and Palestinian deaths are roughly the same save for one year.

The majority of Israel deaths are civilians, killed in cafe's, kidnapped, killed by missiles lobied at civilians.

The majority of Palestinian deaths involve armed palestinians.

So again, if you want to ignore the terror inflicted upon the Israel people who just want peace so you can defend a people who support (majority wise) Hez (whos policy is to kill Israel civilians) than that is fine. As I said, it says alot about you.

Heh, I guess this is your way of saying Israel got no excuse for this incursion into Lebanon. That's why you gotta pull something from the past to cover for this current event.

Even if you wanna talk about the past, I dunno where you get your stat. Most ppl have the death toll for the Intifada at 3:1 (and Israeli human rights group too). This doesn't even include the hundreds of thousands Palestinian living in refugee camps now as a results of all the conflicts.

So again, who is inflicting more terror? And why is Israeli inflicting terror on civilian? I know terrorists inflict terror on Israeli civilian, that's why they are called terrorists. But why is Israeli doing the same as a nation?

That site has every death listed and the events surrounding it.

You sound like Smack Down now "history doesn't matter" when it concerns the other side, but matter when it is for your side. You are a fool if you think this war was entirely over the kidnapping of two soliders. Perhaps the phrase "the straw that broke the camels back" might aid you in making this logic jump. Again, you seem overly concerned about civilians, when they are not Jewish people (Israelies), yet if Jewish people are being killed it doesn't matter, because it is only "the past". Israel would not have a war for the kidnappings of two soliders, for all ****** they put up with the last 40 years as they turned the other cheek, they will have and are having a war for that.

Israel's message to Hez/Hamas/Syria/Palestine is nice and simple. Leave us the fvck alone already.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Because you lie with distorted facts.

If Israel bombed an entire town, the entire town?s population would be the death toll. Telling us:

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

Is a complete fabrication. You?re merely correlating the removal of infrastructure and military targets with genocide because of your agenda of buying into the terrorist PR.

Not necessarily so, exodus of the Lebanese population prevented the deaths while the towns are still being bombed out of existence and those that chose not to leave or were not able to leave are still dying.

Which facts did I distort? The facts on the pictures? Do you want me to find you some more?

You come here to tell us Israel has destroyed entire towns by citing the very few who have died. It is your perception that this cost is out of scale, and not worth it for defeating Hezbollah. This is the single thing terrorism has on its side.

This is war, people die in war. If you don't like it you can go bring wine and roses to Hezbollah and beg them to stop if you think they are so innocent of causing this. I on the other hand would rather persuade them with a simple choice. They can surrender or die.

Yet you would protect them from that choice, enabling their use of human shields as an effective tool.

Is really 600 Lebanese deaths ?very few? in your twisted little world? How would you feel if it was 600 Jews that died? That would be horrible, wouldn?t it?

I don?t think anyone here wants Hezbollah or Hamas to exists, at least not the terrorist factions. It is the method of their removal that differentiates terrorist supporters (you) and those that care about innocent lives no matter what their religion or origins.

It's happened, many times over. 1000 civilians were dead as of October 2004, and that was starting to count in 2000. This was also during supposed peacefull times..

You forgot the people of south Lebannon voted Hez into power, the people of palestine voted Hamas into power. These parties represent the people of those areas.

To call a nation a terrorist nation that defends itself after being attacked by another nation is pathetic and simple minded. Was Israel suppose to sit back and allow its people to be killed? Or perhaps they should continue talks with an organization whose sole purpose is to destroy them? If people actually thought this through they might make the sense, instead we get "Oh my, 400 dead cilians, Israel are terrorists. Saying this as you ignore the fact that Israel had to builb bomb shelters for all its people due to real terrorist attacks (attacks during time of peace on the civilian population, deliberate).

It?s like talking to a retarded kid. I?m talking about this present situation. If you want to talk about 2000-2004 period you know perfectly well that many more innocent people died from Israeli bombs not to mention suffered oppression and collective punishment ~ a situation that would make you shed tears if it happened to Jews. But since it does not happen to Jews who live in ?relative? safety and comfort you don?t giver a rat?s ass, because you are a bigot.

See the post above, you are a moron if you think the war was only over two soldiers and not over Israel getting tired of dealing with this ****** for the past 40 years. Like talking to a retardted kid? Man, you and Smack Down and now Rchiu are all the in the same boat. Of course history cannot matter in your argument, if it did than Israel would have a valid reason for attacking. Most sensible people see this, terrorist apologist prefer to start there version of ME history after the kidnappings, while ignoring the history that lead up to the current conflict.

 

[smack Down]

See the post above, you are a moron if you think the war was only over two soldiers and not over Israel getting tired of dealing with this ****** for the past 40 years. Like talking to a retardted kid? Man, you and Smack Down and now Rchiu are all the in the same boat. Of course history cannot matter in your argument, if it did than Israel would have a valid reason for attacking. Most sensible people see this, terrorist apologist prefer to start there version of ME history after the kidnappings, while ignoring the history that lead up to the current conflic

They both have valid reasons to attack, but having a valid reason in to attack is not sufficent to justifty an attack. An attack that will solve nothing souldn't be done. Israel has no chance of solving the problems in lebenon and that is why there attack is wrong.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: RichardE

See the post above, you are a moron if you think the war was only over two soldiers and not over Israel getting tired of dealing with this ****** for the past 40 years. Like talking to a retardted kid? Man, you and Smack Down and now Rchiu are all the in the same boat. Of course history cannot matter in your argument, if it did than Israel would have a valid reason for attacking. Most sensible people see this, terrorist apologist prefer to start there version of ME history after the kidnappings, while ignoring the history that lead up to the current conflict.

I have cited facts from past history and the fact still remains. Israelis killed more, injured more and displaced more civilian, be it last 10 day, last month, last year, or last 40 years. AND that is comparing Israelis acting as a nation to extremist group.

It is you who ignore the history. Time and time again, we never said Israel don't have the right to attack those that attacked them. But how many of those hundreds of thousands who lost home, family and life actually did something to Israelis? So what if terrorist hide among civilians. Over here in the US, does it give police the right to start shooting on a busy street just because one criminal is in the crowd? Like Israelis is gonna start bombing themselves without regard to the civilian if Hezbollah hide in Israel instead of Lebanon?

 

[Aisengard]

War is hell.

Get over it.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
You come here to tell us Israel has destroyed entire towns by citing the very few who have died. It is your perception that this cost is out of scale, and not worth it for defeating Hezbollah. This is the single thing terrorism has on its side.

This is war, people die in war. If you don't like it you can go bring wine and roses to Hezbollah and beg them to stop if you think they are so innocent of causing this. I on the other hand would rather persuade them with a simple choice. They can surrender or die.

Yet you would protect them from that choice, enabling their use of human shields as an effective tool.

Is really 600 Lebanese deaths ?very few? in your twisted little world? How would you feel if it was 600 Jews that died? That would be horrible, wouldn?t it?

Of course it is horrible, war is hell. Yet all you do is support further war when you protect the aggressor because you don't like the cost of preventing aggression.

As for the figure of 600, that is my entire point made for me. Israel has shown great restraint to not kill everyone in Lebanon. Yet you make it out to be equivalent as if they had done so.

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

Is really 600 Lebanese deaths ?very few? in your twisted little world?

You cite how overwhelming 600 deaths are, how it's entire towns. That isn't the truth, it could be much worse than it is today. Entire towns dying would be 100,000's of deaths. This isn't a genocide being waged here, it's a war and collateral damage and casualties WILL happen in war. You?re acting like it should be a one sided war, that we shouldn?t fight back against Hezbollah because of their human shields.

Originally posted by: Siwy
I don?t think anyone here wants Hezbollah or Hamas to exists

Then ACT ACCORDINGLY! You play right into their strategy, advocating winning their war FOR them. "Oh my god, Hezbollah is using human shields, we must do nothing" is not acceptable to me, and I never will back down from the attitude that they should surrender or die.

If innocents don?t want to be used as human shields, then by damn they should do something about it themselves instead of allowing Hezbollah to wage war on their streets and in their homes.

 

[borosp1]

Well Its the problem is with the extremist muslim view of the Islamic Religion which follow blindly psychopath bearded religious leaders that preach and reward death. If Iran gets involved this will ultimatelly turn into WWIII. A Lot of extremist Muslims are uneducated. The liberal Muslims are educated and believe in more western thinking.

Here is a direct qoute from Hassan Nasrallah:

"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."

The Above is the reason why Israel has the right to defend there homeland and why more Arabs will die and have died in conflicts.

 

[Aisengard]

Holy crap, did Nasrallah seriously say that?

Can we have linkage, please.

 

[Trente]

UN observer: Hizbullah using us as shields

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Siwy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Because you lie with distorted facts.

If Israel bombed an entire town, the entire town?s population would be the death toll. Telling us:

Haha, haven?t you been following the news, Israel is bombing towns out of existence.

Is a complete fabrication. You?re merely correlating the removal of infrastructure and military targets with genocide because of your agenda of buying into the terrorist PR.

Not necessarily so, exodus of the Lebanese population prevented the deaths while the towns are still being bombed out of existence and those that chose not to leave or were not able to leave are still dying.

Which facts did I distort? The facts on the pictures? Do you want me to find you some more?

You come here to tell us Israel has destroyed entire towns by citing the very few who have died. It is your perception that this cost is out of scale, and not worth it for defeating Hezbollah. This is the single thing terrorism has on its side.

This is war, people die in war. If you don't like it you can go bring wine and roses to Hezbollah and beg them to stop if you think they are so innocent of causing this. I on the other hand would rather persuade them with a simple choice. They can surrender or die.

Yet you would protect them from that choice, enabling their use of human shields as an effective tool.

Is really 600 Lebanese deaths ?very few? in your twisted little world? How would you feel if it was 600 Jews that died? That would be horrible, wouldn?t it?

I don?t think anyone here wants Hezbollah or Hamas to exists, at least not the terrorist factions. It is the method of their removal that differentiates terrorist supporters (you) and those that care about innocent lives no matter what their religion or origins.

It's happened, many times over. 1000 civilians were dead as of October 2004, and that was starting to count in 2000. This was also during supposed peacefull times..

You forgot the people of south Lebannon voted Hez into power, the people of palestine voted Hamas into power. These parties represent the people of those areas.

You just justified Iraqi and Afghan attacks on US civilians. After all Bush sent the American army that invaded Iraq whom the American people elevted.