CNN: It's a Big Mistake to write Trump off

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Moonbeam

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But how interesting is it that the real objective of power of the party of moral values turned out to be keeping the capo dei capi in power against the laws of the United States. The Mafia and the Republican party are one and the same thing, a protection racket and ticket to loot if you kiss the one ring. And the enemy of the Mafia, of course, is the FBI, but only a mafia house and senate can convict. Who would have thought that even the second amendment would be used to keep the Mafia coup in power. It took a while but 1984 is here.

Hush little baby don't say a word, Daddy's gonna buy you a mocking bird....
 

Homerboy

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I long for the day that OP posts one of these inane threads and nobody responds. He's just clearly trolling and we all take the bait.
Going forward, can we collectively agree to simply not respond to any thread he starts?
 

Moonbeam

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There is a certain irony that Albany is leading the charge against white collar crime when they ship it by the barge load down the Hudson River to NYC. I wonder if this has anything to do with Presidential aspirations.
Quite frankly the Presidential aspiration I hear in your post is the desire to suck Trumps cock. Naturally I know that wasn't what you thought you said. You probably thought you were on the slime trail of an evil democrat as if democrats are as big of tools as the fools who vote Republican because of enlarged amygdalae.
 

Moonbeam

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I long for the day that OP posts one of these inane threads and nobody responds. He's just clearly trolling and we all take the bait.
Going forward, can we collectively agree to simply not respond to any thread he starts?
Ignore a peacock? That's not so easy.
 

Commodus

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I long for the day that OP posts one of these inane threads and nobody responds. He's just clearly trolling and we all take the bait.
Going forward, can we collectively agree to simply not respond to any thread he starts?

I'm not sure how much of it is trolling versus genuinely mindless Trump worship. You get the impression that the OP's sincere fantasy is to pleasure Trump on live TV.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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There is a certain irony that Albany is leading the charge against white collar crime when they ship it by the barge load down the Hudson River to NYC. I wonder if this has anything to do with Presidential aspirations.

The first part, Albany spreads it to all extremes of our border, not just NYC. Presidental aspirations? I have been reading up on our new "accidental" AG who was not subject to the usual vote of confidence in corruption, but fairly thrust into the office with the booting of the prior occupant. She's impressive and I am not easily impressed. The chances that she isn't aware of potential manipulation is nil and I doubt that she is overmatched by Cuomo, another impressive quality.

If that is true this is a case of happy coincidence, where Underwood goes after crime and corruption because it's the right thing, not a political expedient, but this makes Cuomo look good too. I suspect that when Cuomo decides to make his move on the WH he will be lionized by the Faithful and what many of what I'll call the "usual suspects" will back him with fervor, circling the wagon with "Do you want republicans!!!".

Time will tell, but I'm encouraged by our state at this time.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Quite frankly the Presidential aspiration I hear in your post is the desire to suck Trumps cock. Naturally I know that wasn't what you thought you said. You probably thought you were on the slime trail of an evil democrat as if democrats are as big of tools as the fools who vote Republican because of enlarged amygdalae.

I have had reason to know about Cuomo for a for many years. My estimation of his is that he is of an odious nature, a person I would cross the street to avoid. I can't speak for others, but this man is intelligent, focused, and corrupt to the core. Others who aren't Republican shills can weigh in, but we have the misfortune of having a power craving reprehensible running the show. I think you know that party or ideology will not serve as an excuse of wrongs or a specious overstatement in my assessment of a person.
 

Moonbeam

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I have had reason to know about Cuomo for a for many years. My estimation of his is that he is of an odious nature, a person I would cross the street to avoid. I can't speak for others, but this man is intelligent, focused, and corrupt to the core. Others who aren't Republican shills can weigh in, but we have the misfortune of having a power craving reprehensible running the show. I think you know that party or ideology will not serve as an excuse of wrongs or a specious overstatement in my assessment of a person.
What I think is that I value your opinion and it was you o had in mind regarding democrats being tools. I have some confidence that if the members of any party are more able to weed out the worthlessruning for office it will be liberals owing to their greater insistence on objectivity. I think it is greater but who knows by how much.
 

SP33Demon

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Trump has already "been gotten."

His legislative policies are at a halt. He's only produced one lousy piece of major legislation.

Yet he couldn't even give free money away and make it popular.

He's accomplished ZERO else of what he campaigned on.

He's reduced to Twitter fights, executive orders, and SC appointees that fall in his lap.

I'm sure you'll claim that that's all you care about, but that's not what was promised or expected.
Please list how many circuit court judges have been appointed by Trump. He's done what he was voted to do, and I'm getting a good chunk more money back on my taxes next year. He's completely reversed almost all obama xo's, and halted the sjw movement in its tracks. He's already been one of the most successful neoliberal cockblocks in history and broke the chain of elitist corruption spanning from Bill, W, and obama who were all paid bank shills.
 

SP33Demon

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On the first part, the nation is confused and/or defeated by the lack of action on the part of both parties while others are virtually mind controlled by RepubliTrump, that is to say, Trump and his supporting party ruled by him. Yet another group doesn't care because they can still watch their HDTV and live in utter bliss of ignorance. All of that to say there's no cohesive consensus and will about impeachment and so for the moment we have to wait until November and see if that changes.

But

Bless our AGs in NY
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges-vance.html

An investigation into the Trump Organization cannot be derailed by the Feds over matters of state law. Trump and DC are powerless to step in and while I do not trust Cuomo, or new AG does not have a record of bowing for political nonsense.

Once the businesses of Trump are laid bare I wonder what illegalities linked to Trump may be found? There is no "red line", this is a potential treasure chest for our people in NY.
NY will do anything to prosecute them since Trump fucked blue states with the new SALT tax law. They can try and squirm and exact their retaliation but eventually the IRS always wins, regardless what they do to retaliate against Trump. They've already lost - any "criminal charges" is just kicking and screaming at this point.
 

ecogen

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Please list how many circuit court judges have been appointed by Trump. He's done what he was voted to do, and I'm getting a good chunk more money back on my taxes next year. He's completely reversed almost all obama xo's, and halted the sjw movement in its tracks. He's already been one of the most successful neoliberal cockblocks in history and broke the chain of elitist corruption spanning from Bill, W, and obama who were all paid bank shills.

I sincerely hope you're a troll.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Quite frankly the Presidential aspiration I hear in your post is the desire to suck Trumps cock. Naturally I know that wasn't what you thought you said. You probably thought you were on the slime trail of an evil democrat as if democrats are as big of tools as the fools who vote Republican because of enlarged amygdalae.
Well, both Cuomos certainly had the opportunity to focus their eyes towards Trump for decades, its not like he wasn’t a known scumbag in NY circles. But they probably didn’t have concerns over Trump when he was a reliable Democrat donor, they certainly liked the smell of his money. Cuomo now likes the smell of the White House better and the siren call of political opportunism.
 

Indus

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Well, both Cuomos certainly had the opportunity to focus their eyes towards Trump for decades, its not like he wasn’t a known scumbag in NY circles. But they probably didn’t have concerns over Trump when he was a reliable Democrat donor, they certainly liked the smell of his money. Cuomo now likes the smell of the White House better and the siren call of political opportunism.

I don't think Cuomo is electable and he knows it. He's a NY darling but not a national one.

If there's anyone that's nationally electable from NY its looking like Alexandria but that's a few decades off and if her ideas resonate enough.
 

Moonbeam

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Well, both Cuomos certainly had the opportunity to focus their eyes towards Trump for decades, its not like he wasn’t a known scumbag in NY circles. But they probably didn’t have concerns over Trump when he was a reliable Democrat donor, they certainly liked the smell of his money. Cuomo now likes the smell of the White House better and the siren call of political opportunism.
As a result of this post you have caused me to remember something I haven't thought of in years. I remember maybe around the age of 7 there was a kid who shot another kid in the leg with an arrow. I hope that fucker didn't go into politics. Now I will worry all day about that instead of Trump and the fact that a criminal is president of the United States. That son of a bitch, I never found out what happened to him. God Damned, did he get off easy? Fuck I hate the world.
 
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Cohen can spill his guts all he wants, he took a plea which means he's done. He said she said ain't going to stick to Teflon Don if that's all Mueller has. Better get something better than that.
So the concept of opinion still escapes you.
 

hal2kilo

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You should probably look up what "high crimes and misdemeanors" actually means. I assume the guy you quoted actually knows and is being deliberately misleading.

(Not that I expect him to be impeached, mind you. And even if he's impeached after the midterms, I certainly wouldn't expect him to be convicted in the Senate. But those are political issues that have nothing to do with whether or not his impeachment would be Constitutional.)
It's whatever congress says they are. For the clueless, impeachment is a political process, not a legal process.
 

UNCjigga

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Please list how many circuit court judges have been appointed by Trump. He's done what he was voted to do, and I'm getting a good chunk more money back on my taxes next year. He's completely reversed almost all obama xo's, and halted the sjw movement in its tracks. He's already been one of the most successful neoliberal cockblocks in history and broke the chain of elitist corruption spanning from Bill, W, and obama who were all paid bank shills.

Someone else had a list of judges ready to go, and that decrepit old constipated turtle leading the Senate takes all the credit for holding vacancies open and then rushing to fill them as soon as Trump assumed office. Trump's only credit is for signing his godawful signature on every appointment.
 

Bitek

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Please list how many circuit court judges have been appointed by Trump. He's done what he was voted to do, and I'm getting a good chunk more money back on my taxes next year. He's completely reversed almost all obama xo's, and halted the sjw movement in its tracks. He's already been one of the most successful neoliberal cockblocks in history and broke the chain of elitist corruption spanning from Bill, W, and obama who were all paid bank shills.

As you say XOs are easily reversible, and every POTUS gets judges. The bank comment is a joke.

Where's the lasting legacy items? Where's the LBJ-like achievements? Usually there first two years of a presidential term are the most productive. His has been wasted.

All he'll be remembered for so far is a regressive tax code, massive debt and a historic level of criminal indictments.
 
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fskimospy

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So he's not a troll. My condolences for apparently having to deal with him for extended periods of time.

He doesn’t seem to be a troll, no. He’s just a guy who isn’t very smart and tries to hide it through bluster. He also may have some sort of manic/depressive problem as he generally comes in here and furiously shits everywhere for a few days and then disappears.
 

fskimospy

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As you say XOs are easily reversible, and every POTUS gets judges. The bank comment is a joke.

Where's the lasting legacy items? Where's the LBJ-like achievements? Usually there first two years of a presidential term is the most productive.

All he'll be remembered for so far is a regressive tax code, massive debt and a historic level of criminal indictments

I think he will be remembered almost exclusively for the mind-boggling levels of corruption because he’s been a failure at almost everything else.

His levels of corruption are already rivaling Reagan and he’s only a year and a half in with the worst yet to come.