CNN: It's a Big Mistake to write Trump off

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1sikbITCH

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/opinions/trump-critics-too-soon-to-rejoice-callan/index.html

Sorry anti-Trumpers, your party just got crashed by... CNN.

As the lawyer says, there is really nothing that will stick to Teflon Don and the Trump train just keeps on rolling. There is zero evidence that Trump violated any type of campaign law statutes.



Are you guys tired of winning (err losing) yet? womp womp

Did I miss the Mueller report? Nope, wake me up when it comes out.
 

SP33Demon

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If by "impeach" you mean the process successfully executed in the House I may take that. Bill Clinton was "impeached" but not convicted in the Senate. There will never be enough Republicans with a spine in the Senate to convict because of 2/3 rule.

If he resigns before the trial in the Senate its a wash.
No, you know what I meant. Full impeachment which includes the senate. The House can impeach their dog for all I care, it won't matter. Trump gonna keep appointing judges no matter what and his battleground base will vote him in when 2020 comes. And I hope the popular vote and EC numbers are even wider in 2020 just to give a big middle finger to the media and blue states who let illegals vote.
 

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Hayabusa Rider

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What I think is that I value your opinion and it was you o had in mind regarding democrats being tools. I have some confidence that if the members of any party are more able to weed out the worthlessruning for office it will be liberals owing to their greater insistence on objectivity. I think it is greater but who knows by how much.

It in the nature of people to for people to form associations and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. The problem in this specific instance is that it is also possible to form tribes where there are two sets of values, or one set which is weighted differently. My concern for the future goes beyond the color of the Standard, that of blue or red, but a temptation to hold others to standards that they do not their own as well. People like Cuomo bother me as there are various Rings of Political Power which are used amorally to achieve what might be worthy goals, however to me the means are as important as the ends because they demonstrate and are part of our true selves. I identify with a great many liberal values, and the Democrats contain like minded individuals but I am not partisan. Democrats and Republicans are irrelevant to me as they are nothingto be admired except as how they act and their values. They are a means to an end which can be used for proper means to benefit society, but they represent a trap for some. Do you want a REPUBLICAN? Do you want a DEMOCRAT? Honestly I don't want either. I want humanity, intelligence an a willingness to be a servant in leading.

For this time in history the Dems have the moral advantage, but like all humans can be led astray. This is my concern about people like Trump and Cuomo, that they achieve loyalty to their person and we surrender a bit of our positive natures for "Them and the Party".

I prefer those who's values align with those in movements and tribes because of their inherent goodness, innate or learned, much more than others who stand by their party right or wrong because they are never wrong. IMO the latter aren't morally grounded enough to say "if I would not tolerate this in myself or those I respect for cause then I cannot approve of corruption or skulduggery, or intentional criminal activities in the name of party advancement".

These people aren't evil but temptations for gain, having low standards, and not understanding themselves and acting in appropriate ways makes them vulernable and of narrow vision. They may want that which is right but compromise and accept that which is wrong too often.

We are imperfect creatures, but we can always improve along our journies.
 

fskimospy

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No, you know what I meant. Full impeachment which includes the senate. The House can impeach their dog for all I care, it won't matter. Trump gonna keep appointing judges no matter what and his battleground base will vote him in when 2020 comes. And I hope the popular vote and EC numbers are even wider in 2020 just to give a big middle finger to the media and blue states who let illegals vote.

You hope that Trump loses the vote by an even wider margin in 2020 just to stick it to people because imaginary illegal immigrants are voting?

You just know people creating conservative media look at you and laugh because you’re the world’s easiest mark. You’ll believe anything they say no matter how stupid.
 

SP33Demon

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But how interesting is it that the real objective of power of the party of moral values turned out to be keeping the capo dei capi in power against the laws of the United States. The Mafia and the Republican party are one and the same thing, a protection racket and ticket to loot if you kiss the one ring. And the enemy of the Mafia, of course, is the FBI, but only a mafia house and senate can convict. Who would have thought that even the second amendment would be used to keep the Mafia coup in power. It took a while but 1984 is here.

Hush little baby don't say a word, Daddy's gonna buy you a mocking bird....
Actually Repubs and Dems are both "the mafia". You are naive as F if you think obama wasn't paid and bought for by Wall Street. Wikileaks already exposed him when his citibank handlers told him to hire 30+ of their execs into his cabinet which he did like a good little puppet - and they then hired their people as instructed. Hillary is in the same boat, as is W Bush. I know you're on meds and shit because reality doesn't give you a participation trophy for breathing, but saying stupid shit like "the mafia and the republican party are one and the same thing" without including Dems is hilarious. Also, how is your hero Bernie and his 3 shiny new houses doing? How is it that people can afford 3 houses but then complain about wealth gaps? Just another example of a Dem crony - even the self proclaimed "progressives" aren't immune to being bought out. The only person we've seen who hasn't been bought and paid for by banks is Trump. Which is why he's the only politician worth supporting at this juncture, and the contingency plan by the global elites get him out becomes more and more fervent by the day. He is the antithesis to what they want - open borders, erosion of the nuclear family, and power back to the people vs the state.

Also funny that you're now parroting "1984" when I've been posting about it all year. Only now we're starting to see random censorship by big companies who offer zero reason for their bans, which will undoubtedly expand to big government (as we've seen with Germany and their weaponized law Netz.dg) until the final phase where the people take up arms and revolt after enough of their rights have been taken away. Only here it will be very bloody because of the amount of guns We The People own.
 
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fskimospy

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It's a good thing the Trump/Kobach Election Integrity Commission found all of those instances of undocumented immigrants voting and put and end to it.

It’s amazing that these idiots simultaneously believe that MILLIONS of undocumented immigrants voted but are undeterred by the fact that they can’t find any of them.
 

SP33Demon

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Funny what they will tear apart, then turn around and use it as real news.
The irony is lost on you, isn't it? We are using your fake news against you since you treat it as gospel. Sad that I had to spell it out.
 

SP33Demon

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It’s amazing that these idiots simultaneously believe that MILLIONS of undocumented immigrants voted but are undeterred by the fact that they can’t find any of them.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/california-dmv-allows-illegals-to-vote-gop-chairman
So 11 states just made it legal for illegals to get driver's licenses. Do you know what that means for voting or are you willfully playing dumb?

Also SF just passed a law that makes it ok for illegals to vote in school elections.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...nted-immigrants-vote-school-elections-n893221

If you put your fingers in your ears and go lalalalalala long enough, you can forget about the truth long enough to ignore it.
 

VRAMdemon

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So far, still...Trump's base is solid; surprisingly so. So they're already going to vote for Trump.

Each party has a base that always votes for it. If those bases were big enough to win elections, one party would always win. Elections are decided by the people who aren't in a base; people who are swing voters that are open to voting for either party and indifferent voters who may or may not bother to vote. These are the voters who make a difference and these are the voters who are open to persuasion. You also have a third group; the people who don't matter in elections. These are the people who are committed to voting for a third party and the people who don't vote.
 

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NY will do anything to prosecute them since Trump fucked blue states with the new SALT tax law. They can try and squirm and exact their retaliation but eventually the IRS always wins, regardless what they do to retaliate against Trump. They've already lost - any "criminal charges" is just kicking and screaming at this point.

The basis for prosecution is sound and likely kicking around for action until the Federal investigation has reached a certain point, in this case the determination of guilt regarding Cohen.

In terms of criminal charges they do seem to be uncertain for Trump at the Federal level. I think the Dems will fold once he is out of office but I might be wrong.

That, however, is not the case with Underwood who is another nightmare for those who engage in criminal activities. Now that NY is moving from a damning civil case to criminal investigations which now include the Trump Organization, there would be no escape within the US if there is sufficient evidence to indict and prosecute a well constructed case. No pardons, no "let's be friends". Nope, justice for crimes done. Now you may say that there have been no charges filed in the silly way Huckabee did but that's hardly the point. Underwood will investigate now and prosecute as appropriate, that is once Trump leaves office.
 

fskimospy

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/california-dmv-allows-illegals-to-vote-gop-chairman
So 11 states just made it legal for illegals to get driver's licenses. Do you know what that means for voting or are you willfully playing dumb?

Also SF just passed a law that makes it ok for illegals to vote in school elections.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...nted-immigrants-vote-school-elections-n893221

If you put your fingers in your ears and go lalalalalala long enough, you can forget about the truth long enough to ignore it.

Having a drivers license means literally zero for the ability to vote. Like I said, conservative media is laughing at your stupidity and gullibility.

When Trump runs for school board, let me know.
 
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fskimospy

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Speedy, all 50 states are giving drivers licenses to 16 year olds. WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE EPIDEMIC OF ILLEGAL SIXTEEN YEAR OLD VOTING.

I love it when you come back around here. Again, the mixture of confidence and total stupidity is really entertaining.
 
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brycejones

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Speedy, all 50 states are giving drivers licenses to 16 year olds. WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE EPIDEMIC OF ILLEGAL SIXTEEN YEAR OLD VOTING.

I love it when you come back around here. Again, the mixture of confidence and total stupidity is really entertaining.

Can you imagine him "investing" your money?
 

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Why do you turds not want the same scrutiny for the Clinton's? You want to know what Trump farts smell like, but brush all things Clinton under the rug. It is not a duhversion, but a simple question. You were all Trump fans until he wasn't on your "side" anymore. It doesn't matter if banged a thousand women and paid them all. How many women does all sports figures nail? You still hold them in adoration and want a life like them. Bill was sexing n the White house, but you still licked his boots. You lost and will again mid term and 2020. Cant wait for all your heads to explode even more. Do the country a favor and make good on your promises to leave when it happens again.
 

Indus

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I wonder when the Trump Administration is going to explain what happened with the left over money from Trumps $107 million inauguration?

He collected twice as much as either Obama & GW Bush, yet had a third of the crowd either had in attendance. Initially Trump said they spent the funds on .... wait for it .... wait for it .... "fun stuff".

Then, in April, 2017 the inaugural committee said they were going to give the leftover funds to charities ... as of yet, no charities report any contributions received.

And what about the $6 million Trump raised for the "Troops?"

No one knows what happened to that money either.

I think its become apparent what happened to that money ....

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/us/politics/trump-inauguration-fundraising.html

http://www.mahablog.com/2018/05/11/...at-really-happened-to-the-inauguration-money/
 

Indus

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And how long until it comes out that he was fucking Hope Hicks in the White House or on Air Force One?

Oh right he won't lose any voters!
 

shortylickens

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So, CNN is fake news....
But then they say something nice about Trump.....
All of a sudden its not fake news?
 

fskimospy

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Why do you turds not want the same scrutiny for the Clinton's? You want to know what Trump farts smell like, but brush all things Clinton under the rug. It is not a duhversion, but a simple question.

Are you seriously asking why the president of the United States is under more scrutiny than a private citizen? Because we aren’t stupid. If Clinton is a criminal that’s bad, but in the scheme of things it doesn’t matter much. If Trump is a criminal it matters a LOT.

Considering what has been uncovered so far we should want the government to radically increase the resources it’s using to investigate Trump. He’s gotten off incredibly easy so far thanks to Republicans in Congress not doing their job.

You were all Trump fans until he wasn't on your "side" anymore.

Haha right. Donald Trump has been a joke and a disgrace his entire life.

It doesn't matter if banged a thousand women and paid them all. How many women does all sports figures nail? You still hold them in adoration and want a life like them. Bill was sexing n the White house, but you still licked his boots. You lost and will again mid term and 2020. Cant wait for all your heads to explode even more. Do the country a favor and make good on your promises to leave when it happens again.

It does matter because those actions were felonies. Color me shocked that the ‘zero tolerance’ people want to argue felonies shouldn’t be prosecuted as soon as it’s your guy.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves for allowing Trump to make you just as immoral and corrupt as he is.
 

fskimospy

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Almost there....Its all fake except the words explicitly praising Trump.

The logic is truly impenetrable. If they say something bad about him it’s becsuse they are biased against him. If they say something good it’s that he was SO good it overcame their bias. There’s no circumstance where the criticism is right.