CNN: It's a Big Mistake to write Trump off

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zinfamous

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Pretty awesome when I've reduced you to random syllables. Makes me sad that you used to have quality posts back in your innocent sports and non-political days.

you know what happens to our dude mice when we inject HCG into them? Chronic flacidity.

sucks, man. :(
 

BUTCH1

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So moron OP thinks an opinion piece is the end all-be all for this mess, hardly. The ENTIRE reason for making those payments right in front of the election was to NOT let the story of cheeto having multiple affairs wreck his popularity with some woman. oh, wait, we've only just started this ball rolling, Mueller will release a scathing report, don jr. is in deep with lying to congress, dump's charity is being sued, it just goes on and on. Keep dreaming it's all over though.
 

sportage

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The dumbest president ever with the dumbest followers ever.

It's called "A CULT", and they certainly are "the followers".
You can't argue with them. So don't even try.
Many cult leaders of past have been arrested and imprisoned.
And that didn't matter. Didn't matter, to the followers.
Even when breaking the law landed the leader in jail, the followers still stood by the leader. And the only concern was how to get leader released from imprisonment.
But be it in jail or in the Whitehouse, his followers will forever be loyal.
That is why no republican in congress shows any remorse.
And why none of those rally goers have anything but undying loyalty.

So argue the guilt of Donald Trump? Forget it.
Whether Donald is taken away by force, or forced out of office , his cult followers will forever praise him as a winner. And follow every single order he gives them.
 

cytg111

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/opinions/trump-critics-too-soon-to-rejoice-callan/index.html

Sorry anti-Trumpers, your party just got crashed by... CNN.

As the lawyer says, there is really nothing that will stick to Teflon Don and the Trump train just keeps on rolling. There is zero evidence that Trump violated any type of campaign law statutes.



Are you guys tired of winning (err losing) yet? womp womp
It makes sense to stomp the grave ground over a couple of 10 20 times to make sure the braindead isnt rising.. The big O is a dead man walking and more is coming... for his children as well..(Maybe Hillary and co. can eat them?)
 

Moonbeam

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/opinions/trump-critics-too-soon-to-rejoice-callan/index.html

Sorry anti-Trumpers, your party just got crashed by... CNN.

As the lawyer says, there is really nothing that will stick to Teflon Don and the Trump train just keeps on rolling. There is zero evidence that Trump violated any type of campaign law statutes.



Are you guys tired of winning (err losing) yet? womp womp
I just hope I see the day you post here when he's in prison. It sure as shit looks like even the most diehard Trump supporter in a jury room will judge by the evidence and the evidence is piling up that he's violated some serious state laws for which he can't be presidentially pardoned. Don't know if it will happen but I'm curious to see, if it does, what will be your reaction. My guess is that you will shine it on as if nothing happened.
 

Paratus

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Know what happens, when everybody around a person falls?
You play for the Texans?
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HomerJS

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I'll bet you $100 Trump isn't impeached. Put your money where you mouth is.
If by "impeach" you mean the process successfully executed in the House I may take that. Bill Clinton was "impeached" but not convicted in the Senate. There will never be enough Republicans with a spine in the Senate to convict because of 2/3 rule.

If he resigns before the trial in the Senate its a wash.
 

woolfe9998

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I don't take issue with the editorial assessment of Manafort in the legal sense. Manafort is an optics problem for Trump, not a legal problem.

As to Cohen, I don't agree, especially with this:

As a candidate, the law gives Trump, unlike Cohen, the right to make unlimited campaign contributions to his own campaign. And the President's legal team will assert that there was not even a need to report these payments because the purpose of the hush money was to protect his family and the Trump Organization. Yes, there was a collateral political benefit, but, as in the Edwards case, it was inconsequential and not the primary purpose of the payments. Thus, they can argue this is not even a campaign contribution with reporting requirements.

I'm thinking a jury is going to have a hard time swallowing the notion that any "political benefit" was merely "collateral" (meaning of secondary importance) or "inconsequential" when the damn payment was made 11 days before the election. Not sure how John Edwards was able to get a hung jury with a similar argument. We don't know if Edwards' jury was hung on that particular element or on something else. I'll tell you this, with these facts, I'd have trouble arguing this to a jury while keeping a straight face. Regardless, it's foolish to project an outcome based on the outcome of a single prior case. Every case and every jury is different. In this case, I doubt lightning will strike twice.
 
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ewdotson

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Missing, though, were the details of Trump's intentional involvement in criminal activity substantial enough to tip the Constitution's "high crimes and misdemeanors" scale.
You should probably look up what "high crimes and misdemeanors" actually means. I assume the guy you quoted actually knows and is being deliberately misleading.

(Not that I expect him to be impeached, mind you. And even if he's impeached after the midterms, I certainly wouldn't expect him to be convicted in the Senate. But those are political issues that have nothing to do with whether or not his impeachment would be Constitutional.)
 
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Starbuck1975

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I figure money laundering, racketeering, tax evasion, obstruction of justice & fraud will work just as well.
The narrative has been around treason, not white collar crimes. If Mueller were to cast his net even a bit wider, I wonder what other fish he would catch.

Trump is clearly a criminal. Where is the chorus for impeachment?

That white collar criminals are facing justice is probably creating a panick within the consulting and lobbyist communities in DC. I am surprised the Virginia and Maryland suburbs are not dotted with little plumes of black smoke and the sound of paper shredders.
 
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Bitek

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Man, MSM really has you brainwashed. Maybe you should be reading CNN more often. But my oh my do we love it when the liberals get their hopes up. "Someday... we'll get Trump... someday!"

Trump has already "been gotten."

His legislative policies are at a halt. He's only produced one lousy piece of major legislation.

Yet he couldn't even give free money away and make it popular.

He's accomplished ZERO else of what he campaigned on.

He's reduced to Twitter fights, executive orders, and SC appointees that fall in his lap.

I'm sure you'll claim that that's all you care about, but that's not what was promised or expected.
 
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fskimospy

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Trump has already "been gotten."

His legislative policies are at a halt. He's only produced one lousy piece of major legislation.

Yet couldn't even give free money away and make it popular.

He's accomplished ZERO else of what he campaigned on.

He's reduced to Twitter fights, executive orders, and SC appointees that fall in his lap.

I'm sure you'll claim that that's all you care about, but that's not what was promised or expected.

It wasn’t what was promised but it was pretty much what was expected.

It’s not like this guy’s incompetence was a mystery before the election.
 
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Bitek

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It wasn’t what was promised but it was pretty much what was expected.

It’s not like this guy’s incompetence was a mystery before the election.

Haha. Was expected by anyone with a lick of sense, but we didn't vote for him in the first place.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The narrative has been around treason, not white collar crimes. If Mueller were to cast his net even a bit wider, I wonder what other fish he would catch.

Trump is clearly a criminal. Where is the chorus for impeachment?

That white collar criminals are facing justice is probably creating a panick within the consulting and lobbyist communities in DC. I am surprised the Virginia and Maryland suburbs are not dotted with little plumes of black smoke and the sound of paper shredders.


On the first part, the nation is confused and/or defeated by the lack of action on the part of both parties while others are virtually mind controlled by RepubliTrump, that is to say, Trump and his supporting party ruled by him. Yet another group doesn't care because they can still watch their HDTV and live in utter bliss of ignorance. All of that to say there's no cohesive consensus and will about impeachment and so for the moment we have to wait until November and see if that changes.

But

Bless our AGs in NY
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges-vance.html

An investigation into the Trump Organization cannot be derailed by the Feds over matters of state law. Trump and DC are powerless to step in and while I do not trust Cuomo, or new AG does not have a record of bowing for political nonsense.

Once the businesses of Trump are laid bare I wonder what illegalities linked to Trump may be found? There is no "red line", this is a potential treasure chest for our people in NY.