Clinton to hand over email server to FBI

[Bowfinger]

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html

There's a ton of quotable material in that speech, and it turns the current revisionist history upside down.

Yet unlike Bush, Clinton was smart enough to NOT invade Iraq. Instead, he chose more intelligent, measured actions to neuter Iraq and its WMD capabilities.

"As most of us understand, what was true about Iraq's WMDs and WMD programs in 1998 was no longer true in 2001. Things change over time." Or are you in favor of attacking Japan today based on FDR's speech on December 8, 1941?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/23/clinton.iraq.sotu/

I guess Clinton's info was as bad as Bush's? Or??

That's why we had inspectors in Iraq, to gather updated intel and confirm Iraq's WMD capabilities were effectively destroyed. The only urgency in attacking Iraq was that the U.N. inspectors kept finding there was no there there.

Regarding your assertion of a connection between UBL and Iraq:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda_link_allegations#Cheney.27s_claims

Fern

Speaking of revisionist history. The BushCo propaganda campaign against Iraq constantly conflated Iraq and 9/11. Even the AUMF resolution conflated the two in a way that insinuated a connection.

 

[Bowfinger]

lol Ahem:

"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."

Former President Clinton​

Today's Bowfinger truth: Refusing to manfully admit that Bill Clinton left office in 1998 makes one a "dishonest RNC shill". Not to mention dumb.

Yawn. "As most of us understand, what was true about Iraq's WMDs and WMD programs in 1998 was no longer true in 2001. Things change over time." "That's why we had inspectors in Iraq, to gather updated intel and confirm Iraq's WMD capabilities were effectively destroyed. The only urgency in attacking Iraq was that the U.N. inspectors kept finding there was no there there."

 

[IGBT]

when's hillary going to announce she's running for president again??

 

[ivwshane]

Nope, just poking the, um, warty people who live under bridges.

So purposely trying to derail the dîscussion, got it.

 

[ivwshane]

when's hillary going to announce she's running for president again??

Probably when you start trolling this thread😉

 

[Jhhnn]

I guess you're young.

You should have heard what the Clinton admin was saying about Saddam. In fact, Bill Clinton made the removal of Saddam his admin's policy.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Liberation_Act

Fern

So What? Bill Clinton did not invade Iraq. Rhetoric, sanctions & occasional airstrikes are one thing, 250,000 troops on the ground are entirely another.

 

[Jhhnn]

Denver Colorado? Were you managing the server located in Clinton's bathroom closet? Might be conflict of interest here. Also did you get security clearance from the DOD?

When you really have nothing to say it's best to say nothing.

 

[LegendKiller]

So if she has handed over all official business emails and checked through everything, why is there 5 months of emails missing?

Did she do nothing "official" during those 5 months?

Also, according to the state department it is apparently required under their own policies to retain *ALL* documents, personal and official.

How is that explained?

 

[dank69]

Gotta love it.

The DoJ says there is no "evidence" of official emails being deleted, but they have no evidence that it is true, or false. Why? BECAUSE IT WAS FUCKING DELETED!!!

yet liberals are doing a victory lap.


And you call somebody else a hack?

And you're a fucking psycho. Nothing you just vomited has anything to do with my post or the one I quoted. Psychotic.

 

[LegendKiller]

And you're a fucking psycho. Nothing you just vomited has anything to do with my post or the one I quoted. Psychotic.

Ohh, poor baby gets proven that the Clinton circlejerk logic is...illogical.

 

[dank69]

Ohh, poor baby gets proven that the Clinton circlejerk logic is...illogical.

Lol "proven." What a joke. Psycho.

 

[Jhhnn]

So if she has handed over all official business emails and checked through everything, why is there 5 months of emails missing?

Did she do nothing "official" during those 5 months?

Also, according to the state department it is apparently required under their own policies to retain *ALL* documents, personal and official.

How is that explained?

Sources please.

 

[ivwshane]

So if she has handed over all official business emails and checked through everything, why is there 5 months of emails missing?

Did she do nothing "official" during those 5 months?

Also, according to the state department it is apparently required under their own policies to retain *ALL* documents, personal and official.

How is that explained?

You'll have to link to the story you are talking about. There are so many false headlines out there about what is going on that it's impossible to keep track of every conspiracy.

I'll also take a link to that state department policy you are claiming, to review it for context.

 

[dank69]

lol Right. Truly thinking people believe whatever Hillary tells them to believe.

Keep assaulting that straw, we're all really impressed.

 

[Bowfinger]

The "five month gap" allegation comes from Judicial Watch. As I noted earlier, Judicial Watch is a Republican advocacy group, dedicated to attacking the Obama administration. They are responsible for many of the FOIA requests and lawsuits at issue here. In short, they are by definition a wholly biased partisan. Nonetheless, they throw red meat to the RNC faithful, who thus embrace their press releases as if they are credible news stories.

 

[LegendKiller]

The "five month gap" allegation comes from Judicial Watch. As I noted earlier, Judicial Watch is a Republican advocacy group, dedicated to attacking the Obama administration. They are responsible for many of the FOIA requests and lawsuits at issue here. In short, they are by definition a wholly biased partisan. Nonetheless, they throw red meat to the RNC faithful, who thus embrace their press releases as if they are credible news stories.

But are they wrong?

 

[Jhhnn]

But are they wrong?

You claimed fact rather than mere accusation from a biased source.

You're jumping to every conclusion that right wing propagandists put in front of you.

 

[Bowfinger]

But are they wrong?

Certainly many of their past claims have been baseless, if not outright fabrications. I dug into them once before, during the IRS controversy, and found examples where they lied about information in court documents (documents they host in their archives). Are they wrong/lying in this latest example? I don't know, but I won't blindly take their word for it. It needs to be corroborated by a credible source.

 

[ivwshane]

But are they wrong?

Possibly. Do they have evidence of any wrong doing?

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...records-show-four-month-gap-in-clinton-emails

The only “gap” in Clinton's email records, according to State Department spokesman Alec Gerlach, is the one from Clinton’s early days as secretary, when she received emails through a previously revealed second email address that was a holdover from her time as a senator. Emails from the end of her time in office have been recovered and will be made public in coming months

 

[Jhhnn]

Possibly. Do they have evidence of any wrong doing?

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...records-show-four-month-gap-in-clinton-emails

Gotta love the fluffery from Judicial Watch comparing this kerfuffle to Watergate. Not that there's any evidence of an underlying crime like burglarizing the opposition but they're pandering to gullible chumps anyway. They know their audience.

 

[Brian Stirling]

Well if there is an actual 5 month gap in emails that would say something and frankly the investigators would know this by now. So, either there is or isn't a gap and at some point the facts will be known -- I hope.

If no gaps exists then the Republican Judicial Watch will have some splainin to do -- if there is a gap then the splainin will have to come from Hillary. I'll wait to see how this plays out...


Brian

 

[Jhhnn]

Well if there is an actual 5 month gap in emails that would say something and frankly the investigators would know this by now. So, either there is or isn't a gap and at some point the facts will be known -- I hope.

If no gaps exists then the Republican Judicial Watch will have some splainin to do -- if there is a gap then the splainin will have to come from Hillary. I'll wait to see how this plays out...


Brian

Given the way every trumped up Repub "scandal" since Bert Lance has worked out you probably shouldn't get your hopes up.

As Molly Ivins offered - All hat. No cattle.

 

[cabri]

Given the way every trumped up Repub "scandal" since Bert Lance has worked out you probably shouldn't get your hopes up.

As Molly Ivins offered - All hat. No cattle.

Is it really just a scandal; when Clinton has admitted wrong doing?
She has acted as judge, jury and executioner regarding what was turned over to State without any third party oversight.

Best is to see if the FBI will report completely vs what the State has released that is incomplete, redacted and being spun.

 

[Jhhnn]

Is it really just a scandal; when Clinton has admitted wrong doing?
She has acted as judge, jury and executioner regarding what was turned over to State without any third party oversight.

Best is to see if the FBI will report completely vs what the State has released that is incomplete, redacted and being spun.

OMFG! She did just what her predecessors did.

The Horror!

WTF do the loons think was being redacted, anyway? Some Bilderberger/ Illuminati plot to gayify America under Sharia law because Benghazi, or what?

We'll never know, will we? All because... Hillary!

 

[Blackjack200]

OMFG! She did just what her predecessors did.

The Horror!

WTF do the loons think was being redacted, anyway? Some Bilderberger/ Illuminati plot to gayify America under Sharia law because Benghazi, or what?

We'll never know, will we? All because... Hillary!

She's too arrogent to admit a mistake!! Why can't she just apologize to the American people?? AARRGG!!

...then

She ADMITTED WRONGDOING!!!!!1111oneshiftone!!!!!

Who saw that coming?