CIA Torture Report Set to Go Nuclear

[bshole]

All the nasty shit the government did in our name is about to be released to the entire world.

The report is said to assert that the C.I.A. misled Mr. Bush and his White House about the nature, extent and results of brutal techniques like waterboarding, and some of his former administration officials privately suggested seizing on that to distance themselves from the controversial program, according to people involved in the discussion. But Mr. Bush and his closest advisers decided that “we’re going to want to stand behind these guys,” as one former official put it.

Mr. Bush made that clear in an interview broadcast on Sunday. “We’re fortunate to have men and women who work hard at the C.I.A. serving on our behalf,” he told CNN’s Candy Crowley. “These are patriots and whatever the report says, if it diminishes their contributions to our country, it is way off base.”

These are “really good people and we’re lucky as a nation to have them,” he said.


Former intelligence officials, seeking allies against the potentially damaging report, have privately reassured the Bush team in recent days that they did not deceive them and have lobbied the former president’s advisers to speak out publicly on their behalf. The defense of the program has been organized by former C.I.A. leaders like George J. Tenet and Gen. Michael V. Hayden, two former directors, and John E. McLaughlin, a former deputy C.I.A. director who also served as acting director…

A Senate official, who asked not to be named before the release of the report, said Sunday that its authors were saving their response to General Hayden, Mr. Rodriguez and others until the report was public so that they could review the facts they gathered and let Americans make up their own minds.

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According to those familiar with it, the 6,000-page report by the Senate Intelligence Committee takes a sharply critical view of the C.I.A.’s interrogation of terrorism suspects in the first years after the Sept. 11 attacks, questioning the efficacy of torture and revealing more details about the program. It also suggests C.I.A. officers in the field may have misled officials at headquarters.

http://radio.foxnews.com/2014/12/08/bush-whatever-torture-report-says-will-be-wrong/

 

[highland145]

Not the brightest idea to release it to the public.

Asked whether the CIA report ought to be released, Warren said that is a "higher level policy decision," but added "there is certainly the possibility the release of this report could cause unrest."
In Washington, tensions grew over the expected release of the report, with House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., saying America's allies are predicting "this will cause violence and deaths." He said U.S. intelligence agencies and foreign governments have said privately that the release of the Senate intelligence panel report on CIA interrogations a decade ago will be used by extremists to incite violence that is likely to cost lives.

Rogers is regularly briefed on intelligence assessments. He questioned why the report needed to become public, given that the Justice Department investigated and filed no criminal charges.
The comments by Rogers came after Secretary of State John Kerry on Friday urged Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., the senator in charge of the report on CIA interrogations, to reconsider the timing of the release. Obama administration officials said they still support making the report public.

Feinstein has not responded to reports of the Kerry call, though she told the Los Angeles Times in a story published Sunday that "We have to get this report out."
She told the Los Angeles Times that the harsh interrogations undermined "societal and constitutional values that we are very proud of. Anybody who reads this is going to never let this happen again."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nce-chairman-rogers-report-will-spur-attacks/

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Not the brightest idea to re;ease it to the public.

Agree...I don't get this.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm 100% in favor of this. To me this is like the leaks that Snowden did related to the NSA's warrantless spying. (not the other crap that he released that I think he should be prosecuted for)

It seems likely to me that the US committed numerous war crimes. The right thing to do is to expose it and those responsible to make it less likely to happen in the future.

 

[Sinsear]

I'm 100% in favor of this. To me this is like the leaks that Snowden did related to the NSA's warrantless spying. (not the other crap that he released that I think he should be prosecuted for)

It seems likely to me that the US committed numerous war crimes. The right thing to do is to expose it and those responsible to make it less likely to happen in the future.

Just put me down for the exact opposite of this fool.

 

[fskimospy]

Just put me down for the exact opposite of this fool.

Hey, if you want to be part of the pro-war-crime-coverup camp that's your business. At least you own it!

 

[IronWing]

Not the brightest idea to release it to the public.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nce-chairman-rogers-report-will-spur-attacks/

What happened to the tip of her nose?

 

[thraashman]

Hey, if you want to be part of the pro-war-crime-coverup camp that's your business. At least you own it!

You know the people who don't want it released would probably be climbing over each other to release it had it been done by the Obama administration.

 

[fskimospy]

You know the people who don't want it released would probably be climbing over each other to release it had it been done by the Obama administration.

Probably. If Obama has carried on this program in any way I hope that's in there too. I'd also like to see a report on Obama's extrajudicial execution program.

 

[rudeguy]

Agree...I don't get this.

For the same reason we announced that Seal Team 6 did the Bin Laden raid.





Obama is a dumb fuck.

 

[alzan]

Hey, if you want to be part of the pro-war-crime-coverup camp that's your business. At least you own it!

Psst, they're not war crimes when the US does it. We're the good guys with the white hats.

 

[highland145]

What happened to the tip of her nose?

:whiste:


:biggrin:


:ninja:

 

[smackababy]

For the same reason we announced that Seal Team 6 did the Bin Laden raid.





Obama is a dumb fuck.

There are literally two organizations within the US armed forces that would have done the Bin Laden raid: Navy's DEVGRU (Seal Team 6) or Army's Delta Force. If it happened to be an op run by the CIA, it would be different, but a military op is going to be either one when it comes to counter terrorism.

 

[cabri]

High horse and clean hands.

20/20 hindsight
The country was in a panic, including the political leaders (both sides) along with some of the world.
Information was needed to understand the scope of the threat and attempt to neutralize it.

As we have seen, the opponents have no compulsion toward the war crimes; but they are not held accountable for such.

 

[IronWing]

High horse and clean hands.

20/20 hindsight
The country was in a panic, including the political leaders (both sides) along with some of the world.
Information was needed to understand the scope of the threat and attempt to neutralize it.

As we have seen, the opponents have no compulsion toward the war crimes; but they are not held accountable for such.

Bullshit. This reprot should be as much about the conduct of Bush's Iraq adventure as about the hunt for Al Quaeda. The country was not in a panic. Bush and his cronies entered into a war of convenience, a war crime, and then authorized additional war crimes in the execution of that war. If we are to ever again become a nation of laws, Bush and his goons need to face trial. And for that to happen, the truth needs to come out.

 

[fskimospy]

I like how the idea is that the release of the report will make people in the Middle East/Afghanistan/wherever angry at the US so they might attack us. There was of course no such worry about the effects on public opinion when...well... we were actually doing the torturing. Clearly these people really care a lot about public opinion, they aren't trying to cover up things at all.

 

[rudder]

I'm 100% in favor of this. To me this is like the leaks that Snowden did related to the NSA's warrantless spying. (not the other crap that he released that I think he should be prosecuted for)

It seems likely to me that the US committed numerous war crimes. The right thing to do is to expose it and those responsible to make it less likely to happen in the future.

This report was finished in Dec. 2012. Diane Feinstein is trying to stir shit up as the democrats exit the building. There are better ways to handle this that the way she is doing so. The U.S. will lose a lot of U.S intelligence assets just like they did in the 70's when there was a similar occurrence.

 

[fskimospy]

This report was finished in Dec. 2012. Diane Feinstein is trying to stir shit up as the democrats exit the building. There are better ways to handle this that the way she is doing so. The U.S. will lose a lot of U.S intelligence assets just like they did in the 70's when there was a similar occurrence.

What other way should she handle it?

And to be clear, you're arguing the Church Committee was a bad thing?

 

[IronWing]

The U.S. will lose a lot of U.S intelligence assets just like they did in the 70's when there was a similar occurrence.

So the torturers will be out of work? Crying here.

 

[rudeguy]

There are literally two organizations within the US armed forces that would have done the Bin Laden raid: Navy's DEVGRU (Seal Team 6) or Army's Delta Force. If it happened to be an op run by the CIA, it would be different, but a military op is going to be either one when it comes to counter terrorism.

1) please tell us how you got this information
2) what the fuck does that have to do with my post?

 

[Atreus21]

You know the people who don't want it released would probably be climbing over each other to release it had it been done by the Obama administration.

This report seems to explicitly say Bush wasn't at fault for this.

 

[IronWing]

This report seems to explicitly say Bush wasn't at fault for this.

And Ronald Reagan was "out of the loop" on Iran-Contra.

 

[rudeguy]

And Ronald Reagan was "out of the loop" on Iran-Contra.

Should we start listing all the things Obama "wasn't aware of"?

Its a lot longer than Contra.

 

[highland145]

This report seems to explicitly say Bush wasn't at fault for this.

Apparently that doesn't matter if he and his "goons" can be made to look bad. Neither does the potential violence/loss of life that's concerning our allies as long as it makes him look bad.

He's not going to trial for Jack crap if his hands are dirty or not.

 

[smackababy]

1) please tell us how you got this information
2) what the fuck does that have to do with my post?

The history of the organizations? Seal Team Six (later renamed DEVGRU around like 1987) and Delta Force were created specifically for anti terrorism and specializing in small areas (boats, compounds, buildings, etc).

It has to do with your post and anti Obama rhetoric in that there is literally only two possibilities of who would be responsible for the Bin Laden raid. Obama releasing this information to the public has so little do with anything and anyone familiar with US military operations and history would already know. The only information Obama gave light to was that it was a sanctioned military operation and not something done by the CIA and one of their teams (which are far more secretive).