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Chris Christie to sign New Jersey ban on gay conversion therapy

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Is sexual orientation based on the orifice filled OR only the sex of the partner?

In all honesty, I think the Romans defined sexual relationships better than what we do.

According to the Romans, a person either liked to be penetrated, or liked to do the penetrating. Then there were the people who liked to do both.

In its raw form, sex is about putting a penis (or makeshift penis) inside a body.


My personal opinion, I think sex is about control and domination, rather than sexual preference between male and female.
 
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This ban seems to me to be more a matter of consumer protection than a curtailing of rights; like a ban on toxins in drinking water.

If the sole result is that people cannot be forced into therapy then I'm all for it. If on the other hand if people are being told that they themselves cannot choose how they approach their sexuality then I'm against it.

Neither you nor I nor the state ought to be able to decide how someone chooses to chart their OWN course in such matters. It is not our place to judge.
 
If the sole result is that people cannot be forced into therapy then I'm all for it. If on the other hand if people are being told that they themselves cannot choose how they approach their sexuality then I'm against it.

Neither you nor I nor the state ought to be able to decide how someone chooses to chart their OWN course in such matters. It is not our place to judge.

Given that this only affects minors, I'm not sure how much of that matters.
 
Do lesbian women have anal sex with gay men?

You keep ignoring posts that factually demonstrate why your belief that gay sex pays more because gay men have higher HIV infection rates is completely 100% bullshit.

Again, as I said, you're really that retarded.
 
1.) What is this thing you call "professional therapy for becoming straight"? I'm not convinced such a thing exists.

2.) This isn't what you had claimed, so it is irrelevant to the remaining fact that you are either delusional or a liar.




Then you are, again, delusional or dishonest. It takes a special kind of stupid to fail to see the distinction between changing ones sexual appetites and reducing one's body mass.




Irrelevant. The point is that banning one practice that claims to achieve X is not tantamount to a ban on achieving X, dumbshit.

No responses? Huh, I guess trying to defend one's blatant lies becomes untenable after a time...
 
This is a controversial issue. There is still no evidence that homosexuals are born that way or that it is genetic. Just like certain mentall illnesses or cancer. There is no proof its genetic.
 
This is a controversial issue. There is still no evidence that homosexuals are born that way or that it is genetic. Just like certain mentall illnesses or cancer. There is no proof its genetic.

That wasn't the issue. It's about banning gay conversion therapy.

But there's also no evidence that people are born heterosexual, is there?
 
I don't know if sexual orientation is genetic or the cause of brain stimulation during formative years. Either way its probably irreversible because you cannot change how the brain develops as an infant nor can you change genetics. No two brains are the same and the stimulation that a brain receives during formative years can never be duplicated to form a scientific conclusion on nature vs nuture, so it's a moot point.

Why ban business though? Let the market regulate itself, if people want to buy snake oil, let them.
 
This is a controversial issue. There is still no evidence that homosexuals are born that way or that it is genetic. Just like certain mentall illnesses or cancer. There is no proof its genetic.

You are an idiot. Google is your friend. Use it first before you run off at your stupid mouth next time and put your foot in it.
 
Yes there is, its called genitalia. Meant to fit perfectly in the opposite sex.

Your response is ridicoulous....
Really? For me it's a very, very tight fit with my wife - certainly not "perfect" - and the whole thing won't go in. Kind of like trying to park a camper van in a one-car garage.

Now of course, for you, you would fit "perfectly" into almost ANY orifice. And if the "best fitting" orifice "proves" your "natural sexuality," I guess that "proves" that you were born for nasal sex.
 
I don't know if sexual orientation is genetic or the cause of brain stimulation during formative years. Either way its probably irreversible because you cannot change how the brain develops as an infant nor can you change genetics. No two brains are the same and the stimulation that a brain receives during formative years can never be duplicated to form a scientific conclusion on nature vs nuture, so it's a moot point.

Why ban business though? Let the market regulate itself, if people want to buy snake oil, let them.

There's a lot of recent science looking into this, which begs the question, why are straight scientists so worried about the gays, and why is the DHS and other federal agencies funding these homosexual studies at conservative colleges? That is the real billion dollar question, since they are throwing billions into these studies.

And I don't consider a business that is trying to deprogram gay people psychologically without a shred of scientific facts backing up their procedures a business. That's voodoo witch doctor brainwashing, based in a hatred of gays as it's motivation. Why should it be legal at all?

Maybe I need to open a shady business brainwashing straights to be gay. But that would be bad, right? So why should hateful, bigoted, conservative Christian straights get away with it?
 
I don't know if sexual orientation is genetic or the cause of brain stimulation during formative years. Either way its probably irreversible because you cannot change how the brain develops as an infant nor can you change genetics. No two brains are the same and the stimulation that a brain receives during formative years can never be duplicated to form a scientific conclusion on nature vs nuture, so it's a moot point.

Why ban business though? Let the market regulate itself, if people want to buy snake oil, let them.

The business isn't banned. Any adult that wants to be de-gayed is more than welcome to go. But if you are a parent and your kid is gay you don't get to bring them to one of these places.
 
Maybe I need to open a shady business brainwashing straights to be gay. But that would be bad, right? So why should hateful, bigoted, conservative Christian straights get away with it?

Both are bad. I will grant you that your business probably wouldn't do as well though. Eventually people will figure out that it's full of shit.

People that are ridiculous enough to send a kid to conversation therapy probably will seek alternative measures to try and make their kid straight. Have we given any thought to what those may be?
 
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