Chipotle Has Jumped the Shark

[xBiffx]

Please list all GMO products that were specifically made to enhance taste over profitability. (PS, I messing with you.)

Please show me a scientific measurement for how good things taste and I might be able to.

Glad to see you finally understand what I meant all along

Nice try. Too bad your latest statement completely contradicts several of your previous ones.

 

[Darwin333]

I don't get why some companies do this.

Always a smart move to increase costs on your business due to an ideological stance. Riiiight.

Oh well, the customers that do remain will enjoy paying more for cheap food because of their own ideological stance. More power to them I guess.

Because they have decided that the negligible increase in costs will be greatly offset by the increase in business. They aren't going to lose any business over it and they just got all the "nutter anti-gmo" business as well as people that are on the fence (better safe than sorry if you have an easy choice) AND they just got a ton of free national press.

It's called smart business. I highly doubt that the people making these decisions are anti-gmo, they are just pro making more money.

 

[Darwin333]

And why would GMOs, most which are specifically engineered for disease resistance, be anymore susceptible in your little disease scenario? If a disease affects a certain crop, generally speaking, it can affect that entire crop.

Significantly reducing genetic diversity is a valid concern but like the poster said, the "doomsday scenario" is highly unlikely, at least for a very long time. Plus we have backup plans, seed storage facilities around the world. I think there is even one in Alaska that is the largest of its kind with hundreds (maybe thousands) of different seeds of just corn alone.

 

[Subyman]

Please show me a scientific measurement for how good things taste and I might be able to.



Nice try. Too bad your latest statement completely contradicts several of your previous ones.

You seem to be purposely ignoring what I'm saying as to continue an argument against a point that never existed. I've cleared up the misunderstanding yet you still try to argue against it. Well, I won't argue for a point that was never my intention, so if you want to continue then have at it.

 

[zinfamous]

How could lack of genetic diversity be a negative when trying to protect or worry about protecting a crop from disease? People really need to think about that one.

seriously?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_elm_disease

"Those who refuse to learn from history..."

Count me in the "Not concerned about GMO crops when it comes to health; but very much concerned when we start talking about monoculture."

On top of that, there is every possible reason to not trust a company like Monsanto with this. I have no problem with GMO crops and their potential benefits to humanity--I have very real and very substantiated concerns when we sit back and allow a single entity to establish proprietary control over what could very well be the world's majority supply of nutrition in the near future. This is a non-partisan issue that should concern everyone. For all the bitching anyone here does regarding something as trivial as the two largest cable companies potentially merging and inevitably squeezing out competition; imagine what happens when we allow that to happen with our fucking food.

...this coming from a guy that regularly creates genetically-modified critters as part of his work.

 

[zinfamous]

Please show me a scientific measurement for how good things taste and I might be able to.

Heh. All you need to do is bite into a "Flavr Savr" tomato, and compare it to a real tomato. No one needs any numbers for that.

Hell, those things are so bad, I don't think they are legally allowed to use the word "Flavor"

 

[Subyman]

Heh. All you need to do is bite into a "Flavr Savr" tomato, and compare it to a real tomato. No one needs any numbers for that.

Hell, those things are so bad, I don't think they are legally allowed to use the word "Flavor"

The whole taste debate he's trying to get going is comical. He's needs a scientific study to tell him something tastes good

 

[fskimospy]

You seem to be purposely ignoring what I'm saying as to continue an argument against a point that never existed. I've cleared up the misunderstanding yet you still try to argue against it. Well, I won't argue for a point that was never my intention, so if you want to continue then have at it.

One thing I woukd wonder is how much of the taste difference comes from what they do to preserve, pack, and ship it?

I know it's subjective that tomatoes out of the garden taste so much better, but I really think they do. It could be due to the type of plant or it could be that they haven't spent the last few days in a truck being sprayed by ripening agents.

 

[xBiffx]

One thing I woukd wonder is how much of the taste difference comes from what they do to preserve, pack, and ship it?

I know it's subjective that tomatoes out of the garden taste so much better, but I really think they do. It could be due to the type of plant or it could be that they haven't spent the last few days in a truck being sprayed by ripening agents.

No way eski, the fact that anything tastes bad is proof its GMO. Get with the program already.

 

[xBiffx]

seriously?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_elm_disease

"Those who refuse to learn from history..."

Can you show me the part that refuted what I said. I'm reading that wiki page and I'm not finding it. I am finding where the use of hybrids and genetic research is potentially solving the problem, however.

Also I did see this.

The disease is not specific to the Dutch elm hybrid.

 

[fskimospy]

No way eski, the fact that anything tastes bad is proof its GMO. Get with the program already.

My almost entirely uneducated guess would be that the shipping process has a lot to do with it. I know a lot of veggies are picked prematurely and ripened on the way to market. That seems like it would have a strong potential for taste issues.

 

[Moonbeam]

seriously?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_elm_disease

"Those who refuse to learn from history..."

Count me in the "Not concerned about GMO crops when it comes to health; but very much concerned when we start talking about monoculture."

On top of that, there is every possible reason to not trust a company like Monsanto with this. I have no problem with GMO crops and their potential benefits to humanity--I have very real and very substantiated concerns when we sit back and allow a single entity to establish proprietary control over what could very well be the world's majority supply of nutrition in the near future. This is a non-partisan issue that should concern everyone. For all the bitching anyone here does regarding something as trivial as the two largest cable companies potentially merging and inevitably squeezing out competition; imagine what happens when we allow that to happen with our fucking food.

...this coming from a guy that regularly creates genetically-modified critters as part of his work.

This and not the safety of any one GMO is the entire issue. Monsanto corn infects the neighbor farmer's seed and they want their patent to prevent him from growing that corn the next year. Fucking scum.

 

[SheHateMe]

All this because of Carnitas. Carnitas sucked anyway.

 

[zinfamous]

Can you show me the part that refuted what I said. I'm reading that wiki page and I'm not finding it. I am finding where the use of hybrids and genetic research is potentially solving the problem, however.

Also I did see this.

...I, uh, well, really don't know how to help you any further than this. If the concern is not obvious, then I would suggest that biology really isn't your thing?

 

[zinfamous]

All this because of Carnitas. Carnitas sucked anyway.

I believe the proper response, is, DIAF?



(just kidding of course...well, mostly)

 

[Brainonska511]

This and not the safety of any one GMO is the entire issue. Monsanto corn infects the neighbor farmer's seed and they want their patent to prevent him from growing that corn the next year. Fucking scum.

Yeah.... That never happened.... Ever.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm was working on a genetically modified common soil fungus that infects plants in such a way as to make the starches produced indigestible by humans, but before I could patent it, it escaped from my lab. I almost had a cure for obesity.

 

[SheHateMe]

I believe the proper response, is, DIAF?



(just kidding of course...well, mostly)

1/2 Barbacoa 1/2 Chicken is where its at.

Carnitas is gross! Blehhh! I ain't eatin no pork.

 

[xBiffx]

...I, uh, well, really don't know how to help you any further than this. If the concern is not obvious, then I would suggest that biology really isn't your thing?

I'll take that as a no. If it is so obvious surely it's easy to explain it.

 

[UberNeuman]

I understand that Chipotle also has plans to change the soap in the restrooms from scented to unscented.



\rage on OP, rage on...

 

[IronWing]

I understand that Chipotle also has plans to change the soap in the restrooms from scented to unscented.



\rage on OP, rage on...

Well shiite! There goes 95% of flavor in the whole place*.










* Just kidding; I've never eaten there.

 

[xBiffx]

\rage on OP, rage on...

 

[UberNeuman]

You seem to be acting out due to low blood sugar. Get some food in you.

May I suggest a restaurant? I've heard they've changed the soap in their restrooms.

 

[cirrrocco]

just finished a double chicken burrito bowl, no change in taste and the cutie behind the counter is so bangworthy

 

[TheSlamma]

You seem to be acting out due to low blood sugar. Get some food in you.

May I suggest a restaurant? I've heard they've changed the soap in their restrooms.

Low blood sugar, low IQ.. maybe we'll never know.