Chipotle Has Jumped the Shark

[TheSlamma]

just finished a double chicken burrito bowl, no change in taste and the cutie behind the counter is so bangworthy

instead it's Rosie though.. sorry man

 

[Bock]

Chipotle is banking of the fact that most of it's customers are like me {a frequent chipotle customer} When it comes to food, most customers are against gmo's unless price becomes an issue. For example, ask your wife, if the organic food was the same cost as the rest of the food in the supermarket, she would get the organic everytime.

It's human nature & instincts to prefer natural food. This is why we aren't already devouring some delicious, highly nutritious & cost effective paste like food.

 

[Brainonska511]

Chipotle is banking of the fact that most of it's customers are like me {a frequent chipotle customer} When it comes to food, most customers are against gmo's unless price becomes an issue. For example, ask your wife, if the organic food was the same cost as the rest of the food in the supermarket, she would get the organic everytime.

It's human nature & instincts to prefer natural food. This is why we aren't already devouring some delicious, highly nutritious & cost effective paste like food.

LOL. Natural food. There is nothing natural about "organic food". In fact, there is nothing natural about farmed food, period. Farming is inherently unnatural.

As for the organics industry: they still use chemicals to control pests, they just have to be on an approved "organics" list. It doesn't mean safer for people or better for pest control. And at the end of the day, conventionally grown GMOs (or conventionally grown non-gmos) are nutritionally indistinguishable from organics. But don't expect the organics industry to dissuade you from such notions, since they make big bucks off of ignorance.

I don't believe that "most people" are against GMOs - the few surveys on the issue suggest that at most, it's a niche issue that few really know anything about. A Rutger's survey from 2013 found that when consumers were asked a generic, unprompted question of what information they want on their foods, only 7% responded that they want to see GMOs labeled. (Press release with survey link; survey link wasn't working at the moment, so here's a cached google copy: link ). And another survey found that 80%+ of Americans want food with DNA labeled. I'm highly skeptical of polls that ask prompted questions. After all, if you're asked a question on a topic you don't know much about framed like "Do you want to see GMO foods labeled?", who wouldn't say 'no'? If you don't know what it is, the idea that more information couldn't hurt seems like a reasonable choice. But the reality is Americans don't have the scientific wherewithal to deal with issues like this. The last thing we need to do is implement more bad public policy based on baseless feelings.

 

[norseamd]

And the funny thing is that a crop bred by Bayer is still GMO, it's just altered using breeding instead of splicing.

Which is the root of the problem if someone looks at the concerns.

Now I do not have that much expertise on the subject but they use plant tumor diseases to transfer in these genes to any GMO plant products. There are millions of ways for genetically modifying organisms which can include other forms than husbandry.

 

[norseamd]

Anti-GMO people don't effect us now, but if we let them continue to gain victories they will. Imagine if these idiots got a large enough movement to ban all production of anything that isn't GMO free? You think "all natural" production is going to sustain the US's need for food?

Vertical Farming.

 

[Joepublic2]

Anybody that thinks chipotle is good has poor taste or hasn't had a proper burrito. LOL, they don't even use lard to make their (not fresh, rubbery) tortillas or beans (no refries either, wtf). Their bland rice that they use as filler to bulk up their burritos is almost as bad as taco bell's (are yuppies allergic to spices/flavor?) Truly the mcdonalds of "mexican grills".

I guess it's kinda interesting that it's non-GMO garbage food now instead of plain old garbage food, though. No real opinion on that.

 

[norseamd]

Anybody that thinks chipotle is good has poor taste or hasn't had a proper burrito. LOL, they don't even use lard to make their (not fresh, rubbery) tortillas or beans (no refries either, wtf). Their bland rice that they use as filler to bulk up their burritos is almost as bad as taco bell's (are yuppies allergic to spices/flavor?) Truly the mcdonalds of "mexican grills".

But real Mexican restaurants are not their competition. How do they compare to other fast casual restaurants?

 

[Genx87]

The Daily Show had a segment last week where the field reporter was interviewing an anti-GMO guy with no science background, and a genetic food engineer. And the food engineer pointed out at the end that skeptics of GMO have forced enough regulations that the only companies that can afford to be in the GMO foods game are the large ones like Monsanto, thus creating monopolies.

Sounds about right. Increased govt regulation is a barrier to entry. This protects big business from smaller more agile competition.

 

[Genx87]

I am sure it might, but does that offset the cost increase the decision is creating? Will that ultimately increase profits? I have my doubts.

They will pass along the costs to the consumer. Who will most likely eat it up(pun intended).

 

[Genx87]

My almost entirely uneducated guess would be that the shipping process has a lot to do with it. I know a lot of veggies are picked prematurely and ripened on the way to market. That seems like it would have a strong potential for taste issues.

I'd guess this as well. People complain about food not having the best taste. But dont realize that corn cob was probably picked 3 months ago when it wasn't ripe and got to the grocery just in time. I notice this with tomatoes and corn the most in MN. Right now they are pretty bleak. By mid summer both are tasty. Producers are closer to the store. Less time sitting on a pallet. More time getting ripe on the vine.

 

[sm625]

In the 3rd Reich, they executed and gassed the jews and the slavs. That didnt go over too well. Here in the 4th Reich, they just genetically modify the food to give the slaves cancer, and the dumbed down slaves eat it up gleefully, just like the jews who willingly walked into the 1000-man execution pits. Lovin every minute of it. The way people revel in these poisons is amazing. Sooo brainwashed and mindfucked.

 

[Genx87]

In the 3rd Reich, they executed and gassed the jews and the slavs. That didnt go over too well. Here in the 4th Reich, they just genetically modify the food to give the slaves cancer, and the dumbed down slaves eat it up gleefully, just like the jews who willingly walked into the 1000-man execution pits. Lovin every minute of it. The way people revel in these poisons is amazing. Sooo brainwashed and mindfucked.

And this is where you show us your science behind GMO giving us cancer and plot within govt to take on those new costs of care.

 

[LTC8K6]

Farmer cross breeds plants.

Wonderful!

Scientist cross breeds plants.

Burn the witch!

 

[xBiffx]

Now I do not have that much expertise on the subject

You don't say?

but they use plant tumor diseases to transfer in these genes to any GMO plant products.

Thanks for backing up the previous part of your statement. Most of us would have likely taken you at your word but now that you've removed all doubt it makes it easier for all. :thumbsup:

 

[xBiffx]

Farmer cross breeds plants.

Wonderful!

Scientist cross breeds plants.

Burn the witch!

Pretty much this.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Never been to Chipotle and doubt I ever will.

We have some of the best Tex-Mex restaurants around in the Houston area, no reason to waste one's time on a wannabe Mexican restaurant.

 

[Newell Steamer]

You show'em OP, with your pro-GMO company that has out paced and out performed Chipotle.

 

[smackababy]

Never been to Chipotle and doubt I ever will.

We have some of the best Tex-Mex restaurants around in the Houston area, no reason to waste one's time on a wannabe Mexican restaurant.

Sadly, if you ever find yourself anywhere but Texas and California and want a burrito, there are no roach coaches to get one from. =(

I miss the taco stand probably most of all.

 

[cirrrocco]

Never been to Chipotle and doubt I ever will.

We have some of the best Tex-Mex restaurants around in the Houston area, no reason to waste one's time on a wannabe Mexican restaurant.

dude the taco truck in front of Limelight midtown sells the best Taco's I have had in Houston. > they are open from 2-4 am or so. so good.

 

[brycejones]

Farmer cross breeds plants.

Wonderful!

Scientist cross breeds plants.

Burn the witch!

I don't get freaked out by GMO crops but your statement is incorrect. If the only manipulation was restricted to genes within the same species I doubt there would be nearly as much of an outcry. Where the anti-GMO crowd gets freaked out is the insertion of genetic material from other species into a target.

 

[Brainonska511]

I don't get freaked out by GMO crops but your statement is incorrect. If the only manipulation was restricted to genes within the same species I doubt there would be nearly as much of an outcry. Where the anti-GMO crowd gets freaked out is the insertion of genetic material from other species into a target.

Well, they better stop eating sweet potatoes, which contain genes from bacteria (using the same methods that GMOs have used).

The fact is that herbicide resistance can be bred in with non GMO means. Just look at Bayer's Clearfeld crops. The question to be asking is not "are these herbicide resistant so farmers can dump pesticides on it?" It's "are these compatible with a more environmentally friendly pesticide?" And when it comes to roundup/glyphosate, it turns out to be one of the safest and best for the environment herbicides.

But onto the second issue: with such high barriers to entry, in part due to unwarranted concerns, consumer-oriented GMO traits from university labs will remain on the shelf and off the the market. And anti-corporate anti-biotech people have created their own nightmare: a market in which only large corporations can thrive and get through the red tape.

 

[hal2kilo]

Sadly, if you ever find yourself anywhere but Texas and California and want a burrito, there are no roach coaches to get one from. =(

I miss the taco stand probably most of all.

Nothin like a breakfast burito off of a roach coach in SoCal.

I used to drive past this huge roach coach outfit on the way to work from Orange to Anahiem. The smell of frijollies and tortillas filled the air. Used to drive me crazy.

 

[Subyman]

My almost entirely uneducated guess would be that the shipping process has a lot to do with it. I know a lot of veggies are picked prematurely and ripened on the way to market. That seems like it would have a strong potential for taste issues.

No doubt shipping has a lot to do with it, especially out of season foods that are shipped long distances. Time-to-mouth is a big factor. Its nice to have local choices.

 

[Subyman]

Anybody that thinks chipotle is good has poor taste or hasn't had a proper burrito. LOL, they don't even use lard to make their (not fresh, rubbery) tortillas or beans (no refries either, wtf). Their bland rice that they use as filler to bulk up their burritos is almost as bad as taco bell's (are yuppies allergic to spices/flavor?) Truly the mcdonalds of "mexican grills".

I guess it's kinda interesting that it's non-GMO garbage food now instead of plain old garbage food, though. No real opinion on that.

I don't mind Chipotle. Its one of the few fast food restaurant where I leave full and decently satisfied. Its nothing like making homemade corn tortillas and al pastor, but I'd choose it in a pinch over something like subway. The only major complaint I have with Chipotle is their tortilla. It always gets stuck in my teeth and the roof of my mouth.

 

[norseamd]

Thanks for backing up the previous part of your statement. Most of us would have likely taken you at your word but now that you've removed all doubt it makes it easier for all.

Thankyou for your unwavering faith to never thinking outside your ideology.

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