I'm going to bed, that was so hard to read.
Flagship from one gen to the next isn't 20% faster than last gens flagship, that's a joke and a poor one played on us all by AMD.
I see a card that is overall
41% faster than AMD's previous top end card from the prior node. A result consistent with the gains seen from either
nvidia or
AMD when moving from one node to the next.
You want to compare it to nvidia's current top end card from the prior node. In that respect I'll take overclocking gains seen on the 7970 to account for what AMD will respond with to what nvidia releases
in the future as they have no 28nm card on the near horizon. Where I see the 7970
50% faster in Battlefield 3,
70% faster in Deus Ex:HR and
50% faster in Skyrim than an already overclocked 580, I see them ready to counter whatever nvidia releases in an impressive manner.
Again looking on the past gains moving from one node to another,
in this case for nvidia going from the 285 to 480, that would put a 7970 released as stock with the earlier overclock I mentioned or one with
more shaders added, right on par with whatever gains nvidia will see on 28nm if they follow recent past history.
I bought my cards after the refresh, 470 for $350, do not want, 470 for $150, give me two.
If you plan to purchase this way again you are going to be waiting for longer than a year I would think. First, for Kepler to actually release, and then, for it to be refreshed to put you in a similar pricing situation.
It's basic logic, name the last generation of Nvidia cards where performance over the previous generation didn't increase by at least 50%
As mentioned earlier, overall increases seen,
GTX 285 to GTX 480 =39% increase. Here is another
8800GTX to GTX 280= 37% increase
I'm not asking for a sub $500 flagship card, I'm saying the 7970 isn't one and it's price is just AMD's new CEO doing the bulldozer style $280 8150 spat in your face.
The 7970 most definitely is a flagship card. Not sure how it relates to Bulldozer or your opinion of AMD's CEO 'spitting in your face' ? AMD's CPU performance being poor has nothing to do with their GPUs ?
Away from a lot of the banter back and forth from one team to another about price/performance on flagship cards, not enough increase, unreleased unknown parts etc. I think Tahiti is the most impressive GPU ATI/AMD has ever released in the context of how much potential it is showing to evolve into an even more impressive product.
Way to take what I said off the reservation, no need for an actual response here.
Not sure how I did that at all, I responded to your comments. If I took your comments 'off the reservation' point out to me how I did that, please ?