Chinese frigate locked radar on Japanese navy vessel

[Karl Agathon]

Said it once and I'll say it again, Japan needs to reverse its consitiution and go nuclear ASAP! Either that, or tell the US they need new up to date security GAURANTEES. Or they will have no choice but to look out for their own interest and go nuclear. They have to deal with that Belligerent Bellicose neighbor being right next store, we dont. They have to look out for themselves!

Please Japan, go nuclear!!! You're now neigbors with a nation who could quite possibly tun into the next Nazi Germany within 50 years.

 

[DesiPower]

Said it once and I'll say it again, Japan needs to reverse its consitiution and go nuclear ASAP! Either that, or tell the US they need new up to date security GAURANTEES. Or they will have no choice but to look out for their own interest and go nuclear. They have to deal with that Belligerent Bellicose neighbor being right next store, we dont. They have to look out for themselves!

Please Japan, go nuclear!!! You're now neigbors with a nation who could quite possibly tun into the next Nazi Germany within 50 years.

Don't they have US nuclear powered aircraft career with nuclear weapons standing by in their area at all times?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Don't they have US nuclear powered aircraft career with nuclear weapons standing by in their area at all times?

Carriers are based out of Japan. Our government will not confirm/deny the existance of nuclear weapons on military vessels based or visiting foreign ports as a matter of principle.

 

[klinc]

A few decades ago someone thought it would be wise to lure them away from their commie ways with capitalism.

Yet other countries were sanctioned till they elected a commie backed government

 

[werepossum]

Yet other countries were sanctioned till they elected a commie backed government

Red China and the USSR were somewhat adversarial, leading Nixon to think* that China would make a good hedge against the USSR and Soviet-leaning India. Considering how recently China and the USSR had cooperated in arming North Korea and North Vietnam we obviously would have been smarter to attempt to woo away India, especially as a fellow ex-colony, but the temptation to use capitalism to remove one of the two major Communist powers was probably the deciding factor. And honestly, today I give it a much greater (if still small) chance of ultimately succeeding than I did at the time.

*Or probably more properly, leading Kissinger et al to think and Nixon to follow.

 

[Darwin333]

Even if they printed a house you would need people to do finish work, install electrical, plumbing, weatherproofing, roofing etc... And unless the printer was moved via helicopter it would most likely be printing modular components that would need to be assembled as well rather than a complete house all in one go.

The prototype that I saw was assembled on site in hours and built the house on site.

And while you are correct that wasn't really my point. The point is think of all the jobs that advanced 3D printing COULD take. Sure we will still need some trades but entire trades could be wiped out, what will we replace those jobs with?

 

[klinc]

Red China and the USSR were somewhat adversarial, leading Nixon to think* that China would make a good hedge against the USSR and Soviet-leaning India. Considering how recently China and the USSR had cooperated in arming North Korea and North Vietnam we obviously would have been smarter to attempt to woo away India, especially as a fellow ex-colony, but the temptation to use capitalism to remove one of the two major Communist powers was probably the deciding factor. And honestly, today I give it a much greater (if still small) chance of ultimately succeeding than I did at the time.

*Or probably more properly, leading Kissinger et al to think and Nixon to follow.

I would also think if they have interest in the same countries natural resources. How many of the countries that was under colonial or any other rules, mining of resources eg. gold, daimonds were given back for that country to control?

Colonize->Privatization->Awards independence

Which means you still leave with the most the countries valuable exports in your control while ensuring cheap labor.

 

[Dari]

Agreed. There's always a chance that one will blunder into a war, but unless one nation really wants a war, wars tend not to happen. In World War I both Germany and France wanted war, for largely the same reasons. In World War II Germany and Japan wanted war to remove barriers to their expansion, and if one nation/side really wants war it will inevitably get war. In this case I suspect neither side wants a war, but both want the resources. I think there's a pretty good chance of China firing on and even sinking a Japanese warship without actually starting a war. Considering that Japan is so much smaller and is such a good ally of the USA, the chances of such a war escalating into a world war are too high for even China to lightly start it. The Falklands War is a sterling example of how a war involving even our staunchest allies does not necessarily mean a war for us.


Agreed. The point of painting a target with targeting radar is just that - to make them nervous, raising the potential cost of their action and/or location.


All of this, and well said. Red China can move its production to wartime products or domestic consumption when it wishes; as the USA proved in World War II it's a lot easier to repurpose production and workers than to create them from whole cloth. They have already made the USA only a third or less of their exports, so that isn't keeping them from starting a war. Rather, they don't want a war, they want the resources, and they want them as cheaply as possible. China obviously wants to remain as dominating in manufacturing as possible for as long as possible, but they must also reward the Chinese people with a higher standard of living, so it's inevitable that Chinese labor costs will continue to rise. Already in major cities the labor costs of highly skilled manufacturing workers are at near-parity with American workers, which is one big reason we're starting to see some manufacturing come back.

China has a sixth of the world's population and now has the technological base to support them, so it's inevitable that they supplant us as the world's superpower even if we weren't in decline. That doesn't mean a war with us soon, or even necessarily a war with us ever. It might mean a war with Japan at some future date when the US can no longer protect them, but even that's far from certain. Japan may back down or the two nations may even find a way to harmoniously share the resources.

Considering how Japan sees their islands I seriously doubt they will back down. Why? Then the red line will be moved from the Senkakus to the Okinawa islands.

 

[werepossum]

I would also think if they have interest in the same countries natural resources. How many of the countries that was under colonial or any other rules, mining of resources eg. gold, daimonds were given back for that country to control?

Colonize->Privatization->Awards independence

Which means you still leave with the most the countries valuable exports in your control while ensuring cheap labor.

I think once a colony achieves independence it must still seize its natural resources or it will be as you say.

Considering how Japan sees their islands I seriously doubt they will back down. Why? Then the red line will be moved from the Senkakus to the Okinawa islands.

I don't think Japan will back down either, for this exact reason as well as Japan's desperate need (both economically and as a matter of national security) for energy resources of its own. That doesn't necessarily mean war though. If necessary, Japan will lose a destroyer if that helps it win the war of international opinion. Even China can't stand to lose that war completely; it would give an excuse for a lot of sanctions that a lot of people would like to impose for other reasons.