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ElFenix

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think its really unfair that you're comparing the cav to cars that cost 2x as much, like the corolla and civic

Hold on. 2x as much?

I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, but in my world:

2003 Civic DX coupe = CDN$16K
2003 Cavalier VL coupe = CDN$15.8K

I don't know about you, but I'll spend the extra $200 to get a Honda.

- M4H

what are those, MSRP? please. the cavalier is 6 gr down here. cheapest corolla is 11 gr.
 
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think its really unfair that you're comparing the cav to cars that cost 2x as much, like the corolla and civic

Hold on. 2x as much?

I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, but in my world:

2003 Civic DX coupe = CDN$16K
2003 Cavalier VL coupe = CDN$15.8K

I don't know about you, but I'll spend the extra $200 to get a Honda.

- M4H

what are those, MSRP? please. the cavalier is 6 gr down here. cheapest corolla is 11 gr.

US$6K for a Cavalier? That's obscene. Unless you're factoring in grad rebate/discounts and anything other than normal haggling, I'm calling shenanigans.

- M4H
 

emu10k2

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It's a beige 2002 DX-G. The dealer screwed up and advertised 30000 km on the windshield.

When I took it for a test drive it said only 3032 on the milage indicator!

Dealer mistake = my smug grin.
 
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Originally posted by: emu10k2
It's a beige 2002 DX-G. The dealer screwed up and advertised 30000 km on the windshield.

When I took it for a test drive it said only 3032 on the milage indicator!

Dealer mistake = my smug grin.

Dealer mistake = you better damn well check the odometer for signs of tampering.

- M4H
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: ElFenix

what are those, MSRP? please. the cavalier is 6 gr down here. cheapest corolla is 11 gr.

US$6K for a Cavalier? That's obscene. Unless you're factoring in grad rebate/discounts and anything other than normal haggling, I'm calling shenanigans.

- M4H
i think theres a $4000 rebate on them. 6 gr is whats advertised in the paper
 

emu10k2

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>> "Dealer mistake = you better damn well check the odometer for signs of tampering."

This particular odometer has an LCD readout.

Anybody know if there are easy to screw around with?

</wipes beads of sweat off brow>
 

fastz28

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Originally posted by: emu10k2
>> "Dealer mistake = you better damn well check the odometer for signs of tampering."

This particular odometer has an LCD readout.

Anybody know if there are easy to screw around with?

</wipes beads of sweat off brow>

The odometer may have been broken and they replaced it. They should disclose that though. Oh, wait... they did.
 

B00ne

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Originally posted by: emu10k2
>> "Dealer mistake = you better damn well check the odometer for signs of tampering."

This particular odometer has an LCD readout.

Anybody know if there are easy to screw around with?

</wipes beads of sweat off brow>


Well, it doesnt get easier than those with digital odometers, all u need is to hook up some device and punch in the numbers u want on the display...
If someone wants to screw u on odometer readings - they are gonna do it with digital ones...
 
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: ElFenix

what are those, MSRP? please. the cavalier is 6 gr down here. cheapest corolla is 11 gr.

US$6K for a Cavalier? That's obscene. Unless you're factoring in grad rebate/discounts and anything other than normal haggling, I'm calling shenanigans.

- M4H
i think theres a $4000 rebate on them. 6 gr is whats advertised in the paper

Scan the ad. :)

- M4H
 

Perknose

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And yes Opel does make decent engines (they last and use little fuel(in combination with the Opel cars anyway)), but Opels overall quality is ass, since that GM guy is at the helm of Opel, it only took him a few years to destroy Opels image and market share....
GM has owned Adam Opel AG outright since way before WWll. Nice try on the theorizing, though. ;)

Sure you arent thinking Holden? AS thats what the prototypes of the GTO were based on, and the production model is based on. Opel is a company that was closely related to Buick through the 60's and got pulled out of the US shortly after, they have a reputation as really really bad cars. Although some of the new ones look sharp.
Opel and Buick are "closely related" in that they are, and have been since the 1930's, both divisions of General Motors. When GM decided to import Opels in the 1960's, they chose to market them through the Buick dealer network.

Opels were not particularly bad cars, but they never caught on here. Anyone remember the Opel GT? The GM corporate link could clearly be seen in it's mini 'vette styling. The weirdest progeny were the last of the "American Opels". Did you know that GM has long owned a big hunk of Isuzu? Well . . .

After the then rising deutchmark killed any remaining chance of GM's making any headway selling imported German Opels in the US, the General shipped off the body tooling for the Kadette sedan to Japan, and had Isuzu (long primarily a truck manufacturer who kept trying to crack the car market) manufacture and import the late, totally unlamented, Buick Isuzu Opel -- an Isuzu with a Kadette body sold briefly by Buick.

Phew.

Edit: Oh, and my late wife had a Cavalier. It was a total piece of junk. Did you know that that old cast iron 2.0L four -- the Iron Duke -- was, at it's core, essentially half of a 1955 Pontiac V-8? :Q



 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think its really unfair that you're comparing the cav to cars that cost 2x as much, like the corolla and civic

Hold on. 2x as much?

I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, but in my world:

2003 Civic DX coupe = CDN$16K
2003 Cavalier VL coupe = CDN$15.8K

I don't know about you, but I'll spend the extra $200 to get a Honda.

- M4H

what are those, MSRP? please. the cavalier is 6 gr down here. cheapest corolla is 11 gr.

US$6K for a Cavalier? That's obscene. Unless you're factoring in grad rebate/discounts and anything other than normal haggling, I'm calling shenanigans.

- M4H


You can get a base model Cav/Sunfire for less then 10K easy. Also don't forget the 0.0% you can get with a Cav/Sun. So after adding that in and discounts the Cav/Sun is about half of what a base model Civic will cost.

 

spankyj

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Comparing the MSRP isn't a fair value of the cars.

GM is offering 4k rebates, along with grad discounts, GM card, etc.

It's very feasible to get one for less than 10k.

What you're missing is that it's a $10k car. Sure, an Accord will be a huge upgrade. A pimped out Civic may be too. But both of those will cost you 50% or more than what the Cavalier will.

Everyone knows that late 80's GM cars sucked - but GM is (apparently) making strides in quality.

I own an '02 Malibu and have got no complaints. I'll probably pick up a Cavalier for a second car when the need arises. But all I'm getting it for is a cheap method of A to B. Nothing more.

The good thing about domestic cars - cheap to fix.
 
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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think its really unfair that you're comparing the cav to cars that cost 2x as much, like the corolla and civic

Hold on. 2x as much?

I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, but in my world:

2003 Civic DX coupe = CDN$16K
2003 Cavalier VL coupe = CDN$15.8K

I don't know about you, but I'll spend the extra $200 to get a Honda.

- M4H

what are those, MSRP? please. the cavalier is 6 gr down here. cheapest corolla is 11 gr.

US$6K for a Cavalier? That's obscene. Unless you're factoring in grad rebate/discounts and anything other than normal haggling, I'm calling shenanigans.

- M4H


You can get a base model Cav/Sunfire for less then 10K easy. Also don't forget the 0.0% you can get with a Cav/Sun. So after adding that in and discounts the Cav/Sun is about half of what a base model Civic will cost.

Ok, someone PM me with details on how exactly to get this US$6000 car. :p

- M4H