shira
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Think about the absurdity of what you're asserting: The prisoner is so scared, so terrified, that he feels compelled to reveal his secrets in order to make us cease whatever it is we're doing to him. Yet that level of fear and terror is, according to you, NOT "severe mental pain and suffering."Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
No, it's not torture. It's being scared. Instilling fear during an interrogation without involving any severe mental or physical pain is NOT torture no matter how many in here wring their hands about it and insist it is.Originally posted by: shira
And even if somehow a prisoner KNEW for sure that he wasn't going to die or be damaged by the ordeal, that doesn't get waterboarding off the hook: Because in those moments when the prisoner cannot breathe, the irrational, instinctive mind takes over. The prisoner struggles to survive, to BREATHE, to LIVE. There's no cool, rational thought at those moments. It's all animal terror. That's "severe mental pain and suffering." That's TORTURE.
Amazing!! Mental pain and suffering must be at least (say) an 8.5 on the "pain scale" to equate to "severe" (= torture). But the human mind breaks and desperately reveals its secrets (to make the pain stop) when the mental pain and suffering reaches only a 7.5 or 8.0. What astounding good fortune for U.S. interrogators!
Torture? No way; we've got it dialed in - it's an exact science, and WE decide what constitutes "severe pain" to our detainees. We have ways of telling when "severe" is reached, and we always stop before that state is reached. That fact that he's screaming out in agony and desperation doesn't mean that what he's feeling is "severe pain." WE know, not him.
Who can believe such BS?
Not even you can.