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JEDIYoda

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and yet...you are the only person of faith that seems to believe any of this.

what makes you right and billions and billions of humans that have ever lived so wrong?
It is not what Makes thousands of people wrong as much as it is a personal faith that is only Cheez`s faith! Why do people who call themselves Christian drive Fords and others drive Teslas....etc....they believe in the same God! It is just that what is good for some people is not good for others! Just like some people need religion in their lives and others need only themselves...
 
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I hereby decree that it will now henceforth be "Does a Cheez shit in the woods?" This message approved by Jesus.

And I dedicate this song to Cheez:
 

skull

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People that are closer to Jesus he puts more restrictions on them and inject them with more pain. People that are not as close to Jesus don't get this intensity.. God waits for us once we get closer to him more pain will come... But the end result will be so much better...as you will receive tremendous gift and properties in heaven and exponential higher level of joy. People that died and went to heaven regret that they could've done more for God while living on Earth so they can receive all this.

Why? Whats the point of making you suffer now to make you feel better later? Its like worshiping someone that tells their wife I'm beating you now so I can reward you with a vacation later, it doesn't make any sense and the wife beater is still a wife beating asshole.
 

mopardude87

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Why? Whats the point of making you suffer now to make you feel better later? Its like worshiping someone that tells their wife I'm beating you now so I can reward you with a vacation later, it doesn't make any sense and the wife beater is still a wife beating asshole.

Heck, i never heard of any deity which makes ya suffer to feel better later. Maybe in future readings i will find one and certainly update this post if i do! Even people into the darker pagan/wiccan shit are doing just fine and i would known as i am in several groups with over 150k people combined and NOT once saw such complaints like the ops with some damn happy ass people. Not even during the witching hour So how a christian god is doing this baffles me cause i don't think its his god doing it honestly. Others would agree with me, of course i got the respect to put this out nicely.

I think he let in so much negative energy, i always get rid of mine and honestly i am happy nearly 24/7 without a worry in the world here. Bad things happen but i can't rush to the worst possible conclusion either, i go about it rationally. Op has a bad day and its ALL his god, i don't buy it even for a dollar.

This man should have the tools to certainly cleanse himself of whatever this is, i mean others could be right and its just ALL in his head but i am going about this nicely. Not gonna insult the man.
 
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cheez

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So, God owns stock in scooter manufacturers?
No, God is trying to help people out. In the coming future a lot of people will be without cars and will make themselves lazier using that as an excuse to not get a job. Jesus says scooter riding not only solves your transportation needs but releases your depression or down feeling. It will help you energetically... Scooter riding helps me mentally and gives me the will to do something (productivity).

So why isn't The Pope living with you... in a tent... in the woods... being tormented by demons?
Every individual has unique talent (given by God) and have different strength. They have their respective duty to carry out God's agenda, or will. If you are called and annointed by God to preach in big church meetings you may not have to live in a tent. Just because you don't live in a tent automatically exclude you in the Rapture, or hear God more clearly.. The key is for every individual to seek God and surrender to him you will then find Jesus and become his companion. He will then guide you from there, his perfect plan, tailored to your spirit, so that you can carry out his will. But the life will be difficult and painful.
 

slayer202

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cheez, could you give us an explanation of what you would consider mental illness? I assume you don't think you are impaired in any way but certainly you believe in mental illness, and I'm curious what you would consider symptoms of such
 

Captante

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No, God is trying to help people out. In the coming future a lot of people will be without cars and will make themselves lazier using that as an excuse to not get a job. Jesus says scooter riding not only solves your transportation needs but releases your depression or down feeling. It will help you energetically... Scooter riding helps me mentally and gives me the will to do something (productivity).


Every individual has unique talent (given by God) and have different strength. They have their respective duty to carry out God's agenda, or will. If you are called and annointed by God to preach in big church meetings you may not have to live in a tent. Just because you don't live in a tent automatically exclude you in the Rapture, or hear God more clearly.. The key is for every individual to seek God and surrender to him you will then find Jesus and become his companion. He will then guide you from there, his perfect plan, tailored to your spirit, so that you can carry out his will. But the life will be difficult and painful.


Dude you have issues ... of course so does pretty much everyone including myself.

I'd be the last one to try to talk you out of your faith and far as I can tell at least you are mostly harmless except to yourself. So although I will continue to offer advice, I won't judge and I wish you only the best.

Keep the videos coming! :)
 

cheez

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Oops correction on my last post "live in a tent automatically exclude you in the Rapture, or hear God more clearly.." - I meant to say "doesn't" automatically exclude you in the Rapture or hear God more clearly. I wanted to get that clear.

Here is a video I just recorded "Why living in the wilderness is better than living in an apartment :D


cheez, could you give us an explanation of what you would consider mental illness? I assume you don't think you are impaired in any way but certainly you believe in mental illness, and I'm curious what you would consider symptoms of such
Mental Illness is a disease administered by the demons. It's caused by the spiritual attack. The person allowed (not knowingly due to the lack of knowledge that God can give) the demons to take charge of that person. It's similar to demonic oppression. But the children of God can fall into mental retardation but God won't allow that to happen. God rescues and fixes you up Everytime. People without God won't get that rescue and healing and end up getting mental retarded (demonic Illness). Another way to put, there is a healthy mental struggle administered by God, but the public sees it and categorizes it as mental retardation when infact it's not. The other is mental illness by the devil which is unhealthy mental retardation. Hope this clears up some.

Dude you have issues ... of course so does pretty much everyone including myself.

I'd be the last one to try to talk you out of your faith and far as I can tell at least you are mostly harmless except to yourself. So although I will continue to offer advice, I won't judge and I wish you only the best.

Keep the videos coming! :)
Thanks I just put up another video :D
 
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JEDIYoda

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cheez, could you give us an explanation of what you would consider mental illness? I assume you don't think you are impaired in any way but certainly you believe in mental illness, and I'm curious what you would consider symptoms of such
First we need to come to an agreement that just because somebody believes in God does not make them mentally ill......sadly a lot of people cannot get past the above, thus there is no sense in discussing what would somebody consider a mental illness....
 

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Heck, i never heard of any deity which makes ya suffer to feel better later. Maybe in future readings i will find one and certainly update this post if i do! Even people into the darker pagan/wiccan shit are doing just fine and i would known as i am in several groups with over 150k people combined and NOT once saw such complaints like the ops with some damn happy ass people. Not even during the witching hour So how a christian god is doing this baffles me cause i don't think its his god doing it honestly. Others would agree with me, of course i got the respect to put this out nicely.

I think he let in so much negative energy, i always get rid of mine and honestly i am happy nearly 24/7 without a worry in the world here. Bad things happen but i can't rush to the worst possible conclusion either, i go about it rationally. Op has a bad day and its ALL his god, i don't buy it even for a dollar.

This man should have the tools to certainly cleanse himself of whatever this is, i mean others could be right and its just ALL in his head but i am going about this nicely. Not gonna insult the man.

well, Old Testament God was like that all the time. Remember that Job dude? what about Abraham?

But the point of Jesus is that he returned, the new word, the truth, and invalidated the old God. He even said this. Jesus is the rule. He never spoke about self-tortue or agony. Hell, he was there to take it all on himself. That was the fucking point. Any so-called Chrisitians that adopt the rules of old testament god, fundamentally reject Jesus. I only say this because this is what Jesus explicitly said. It's one of the few things that really is no mystery about his purpose.

OP: have you ever tried self-flagellation on a regular basis? that might quench your need for external forces making life miserable for you. You could stay in a comfy subsidized space, not worry about fake noises and commands, and I bet if you have a scheduled flaggelation every evenging, it would take care of that need to feel constantly victimized and tortured. I hear it works for some.
 
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Captante

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well, Old Testament God was like that all the time. Remember that Job dude? what about Abraham?

But the point of Jesus is that he returned, the new word, the truth, and invalidated the old God. He even said this. Jesus is the rule. He never spoke about self-tortue or agony. Hell, he was there to take it all on himself. That was the fucking point. Any so-called Chrisitians that adopt the rules of old testament god, fundamentally reject Jesus. I only say this because this is what Jesus explicitly said. It's one of the few things that really is no mystery about his purpose.

OP: have you ever tried self-flagellation on a regular basis? that might quench your need for external forces making life miserable for you. You could stay in a comfy subsidized space, not worry about fake noises and commands, and I bet if you have a scheduled flaggelation every evenging, it would take care of that need to feel constantly victimized and tortured. I hear it works for some.


Old Testament God was a real twat-waffle.
 
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cheez

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Jesus is the rule. He never spoke about self-tortue or agony.
It's not self-torture or self-agony, Jesus is the one that administers, or make arrangement so that you fall into pain, agony, long suffering.

OP: have you ever tried self-flagellation on a regular basis? that might quench your need for external forces making life miserable for you. You could stay in a comfy subsidized space, not worry about fake noises and commands, and I bet if you have a scheduled flaggelation every evenging, it would take care of that need to feel constantly victimized and tortured. I hear it works for some.
It's not fake noises. And I can self-flagellate it's called denying yourself, denying yourself from the desire of the flesh. I can do so by refraining myself from eating cookies or donuts when I'm so hungry. Not eating cookies of your favorite you can get 3 point credit... God hates us drinking wine or beer, whatever you like the most. This could net you 9 to 10 points credit. If you drink though, not only you lose that credit but will be owed...you will be on the negative points and more pain could come in your way. Watching porn is even worse, it is unacceptable by God. If you pray a lot of God's will and do good deed more pain (diaster, violated by others, things break on you, etc) will come to you. If you've been denying yourself by not eating those things God will use your earned credits to deduct the pain from you. The more you deny yourself the better it will be. God knows exactly how much pain you need to get or how much to take out depending on the situation and circumstances of things happening around the world. However God doesn't condone you take a stick to beat yourself up or anything like that. Denying yourself from fleshy desire is what God wants us to do.
 
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slayer202

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First we need to come to an agreement that just because somebody believes in God does not make them mentally ill......sadly a lot of people cannot get past the above, thus there is no sense in discussing what would somebody consider a mental illness....

did you read his reply before posting this? Come on, don't be ridiculous
 

VirtualLarry

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It's not fake noises. And I can self-flagellate it's called denying yourself, denying yourself from the desire of the flesh. I can do so by refraining myself from eating cookies or donuts when I'm so hungry. Not eating cookies of your favorite you can get 3 point credit... God hates us drinking wine or beer, whatever you like the most. This could net you 9 to 10 points credit. If you drink though, not only you lose that credit but will be owed...you will be on the negative points and more pain could come in your way. Watching porn is even worse, it is unacceptable by God. If you pray a lot of God's will and do good deed more pain (diaster, violated by others, things break on you, etc) will come to you. If you've been denying yourself by not eating those things God will use your earned credits to deduct the pain from you. The more you deny yourself the better it will be. God knows exactly how much pain you need to get or how much to take out depending on the situation and circumstances of things happening around the world. However God doesn't condone you take a stick to beat yourself up or anything like that. Denying yourself from fleshy desire is what God wants us to do.
Cheez, if you believe the Word of God is Truth, and that God is the Same Forevermore, then He will be True to His Word. Therefore, you can use the Word, to know what is True, regarding God.

None of what you have posted above is Biblically-true. God is not Weight-Watchers. There is no "points plan". That was either instilled in you by a demon, or the invention of your own mental illness.

Btw, the bolded part is specifically refuted by the Word of God. He says the "Good Things" will come to those that obey His Word.

I mean, believe what you want, but what you are following, is NOT the Word of God.
 

mopardude87

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I still think its negative energy, or as virtuallarry says a demon, a demon often times will put itself out to look like a deity of good to attract you.

Oh man you will never see this again but a pagan is about to mention the bible in a good manner in hopes of helping here.You should know about your anti christ and his plans to come and sit on the throne after the temple is rebuilt and what does he do? He pretends he is the savior of the world. He deceives everyone with his miracles , if you believe this and have read the word then yeah you know sometimes this can certainly happen.

I believe this is could be something of the sort and Cheez bought right into it.
 

JEDIYoda

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did you read his reply before posting this? Come on, don't be ridiculous
rediculous how?
Your reply was left open ended. A lot of people who do not believe in God or a religion would suggest and believe that his "mental" illness was caused by his religious beliefs!
Nobody should try to convince him that what he believes is wrong!!
It is quite obvious that he thinks for himself with some help as he puts it from Jesus!
What is wrong with that? Please do not insinuate that it is his beliefs in Jesus that are making his situation worse...I contend it is just the opposite!
Nothing we say either way will prove or disprove what he believes!
Why? Because they are his beliefs and his experiences!!
btw -- Essentially all things will be made known when we are called to make our maker!

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Also Cheez since you say your a follower of God, when was the last time you read God`s word ? As Virtual Larry said -- There really is no point system to weigh the good vs the bad.....
Perhaps you are not following the word of God and just using your own interpretation....
All anyone on these forums wants to see is for Cheez to have a good quality of life!
Stay safe!!
 
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Mai72

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Well that' it. I'm going to the woods to meditate forever.

It's time to find nirvana. :)
 

cheez

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Cheez, if you believe the Word of God is Truth, and that God is the Same Forevermore, then He will be True to His Word. Therefore, you can use the Word, to know what is True, regarding God.

None of what you have posted above is Biblically-true. God is not Weight-Watchers. There is no "points plan". That was either instilled in you by a demon, or the invention of your own mental illness.

Btw, the bolded part is specifically refuted by the Word of God. He says the "Good Things" will come to those that obey His Word.

I mean, believe what you want, but what you are following, is NOT the Word of God.
Yes God is the weight watchers, Gluttony. You can be fat and be a Christian but if a person becomes a servant of God he or she will lose weight, mainly due to less eating and pain and suffering he or she goes through. What good is the word of God being true if people don't actually understand it and obey it? People have tendency to interpret themselves based on their nature of the flesh, not spirit. A lot of times it's the opposite of what people interpret as. We gotta receive the spirit of God who will live in us and guide us all the time. Holy spirit will help you understand it, and confirm to you, and reassure you whether you understood correctly or not. If we try to interpret it with our flesh, meaning without his direct guidance (direct supervision) we will not be able to understand it, even though we "think" we understood it.

Point credit system is often used by God. Once a person surrenders to God, receives the Holy Spirit, and follow him (Jesus), he will reveal to you a lot of things that you didn't know. There is so much to discover.. it's almost infinite.


That new canopy-tent is pretty good sized ... Cheez may well have room for you!

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Yeah anyone of you can come visit me. I will cook spaghetti for ya hehe :D. Later I will setup a 12x12 heavy duty canopy and attach to my tent. The current 10x10 canopy will attach to the other end. That's what Jesus told me to do, make it like a large living quarters. I think Jesus telling me to prepare and make living space for my parents to come. It will be covered with walls and insulation. The large canopy will likely be used as central heating area, to use an enclosed wood stove.
 

Captante

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Yes God is the weight watchers, Gluttony. You can be fat and be a Christian but if a person becomes a servant of God he or she will lose weight, mainly due to less eating and pain and suffering he or she goes through. What good is the word of God being true if people don't actually understand it and obey it? People have tendency to interpret themselves based on their nature of the flesh, not spirit. A lot of times it's the opposite of what people interpret as. We gotta receive the spirit of God who will live in us and guide us all the time. Holy spirit will help you understand it, and confirm to you, and reassure you whether you understood correctly or not. If we try to interpret it with our flesh, meaning without his direct guidance (direct supervision) we will not be able to understand it, even though we "think" we understood it.

Point credit system is often used by God. Once a person surrenders to God, receives the Holy Spirit, and follow him (Jesus), he will reveal to you a lot of things that you didn't know. There is so much to discover.. it's almost infinite.



Yeah anyone of you can come visit me. I will cook spaghetti for ya hehe :D. Later I will setup a 12x12 heavy duty canopy and attach to my tent. The current 10x10 canopy will attach to the other end. That's what Jesus told me to do, make it like a large living quarters. I think Jesus telling me to prepare and make living space for my parents to come. It will be covered with walls and insulation. The large canopy will likely be used as central heating area, to use an enclosed wood stove.


I'd swing by for a visit but its a bit of a schlepp from Connecticut! ;)