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Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Wow, lots of soapbox people here. "Who are you to impose on another creatures existence?" WTF? If your dog runs away, do you go get it or let it go? Who are you to recapture a dog and impose on its existence. This thread is more like a PITA convention. My god people...he doesn't like snakes, and he wasn't willing to risk his daughters safety. I suppose thats too much to grasp for some of the most ignorant people on the net. This forums quality is going way downhill.

There was no threat to her safety. He's be better off killing people who drive on the road because you're probably more likely to get run over by a car than bitten by a snake.
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Who cares about the loss of one snake? It's one freaking snake. The world has billions of more snakes to take it's place. I dunno about you guys but I'm not Tarzan or the Beastmaster. If that snake found it's way into my house or yard, I'm not taking chances, I'm BBQing the remains!

Who cares about the loss of one person? It's on freakin' human being. The world has billions of more humans to take it's place.
 

NuclearNed

Raconteur
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Its a black racer. They can't really cause a person a lot of harm, but they can be quite aggressive. A bite from one can cause tetanus. And they are very good at killing pests like mice and rats.

EDIT: Like someone else said, it might be a king snake. Black racers often have faint markings, but from the photos it looks like the markings on your snake really stand out. Other than that, everything in my original post still stands as true.
No, it doesen't.

Snakes? mouths do not harbor Clostridium tetani. However, appropriate tetanus prophylaxis is indicated, since tetanus spores may be carried into the fang puncture wounds by dirt present on skin at time of bite or by nonsterile first-aid procedures.

So basically, unless you're a dirty, rusty fecal dirt covered individual, and you get bitten by a snake, you aren't going to get tetanus.

Besides, who isn't vaccinated for tetanus?

Eli, I think you are being unnecessarily contentious. You are correct that clostridium tetani does not live within a snake's mouth, but virtually all web sites dealing with treatment of animal bites will confirm that a snake bite victim is in danger of contracting the infection. So what is incorrect about my original statement?

Also, I don't know if you are disputing the statement that black racers can be aggressive, but there are plenty of web sites that confirm this. I also know from personal experience that black snakes are not to be disturbed if at all possible, in spite of the fact that they are not venomous.

With all that said, the OP shouldn't have killed the snake. He should have caught it and moved it to a more family-friendly location.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Who cares about the loss of one snake? It's one freaking snake. The world has billions of more snakes to take it's place. I dunno about you guys but I'm not Tarzan or the Beastmaster. If that snake found it's way into my house or yard, I'm not taking chances, I'm BBQing the remains!

Who cares about the loss of one person? It's on freakin' human being. The world has billions of more humans to take it's place.

Human beings have souls. Do you really want to get into the whole humans-are-more-important-than-animals arguement?
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Who cares about the loss of one snake? It's one freaking snake. The world has billions of more snakes to take it's place. I dunno about you guys but I'm not Tarzan or the Beastmaster. If that snake found it's way into my house or yard, I'm not taking chances, I'm BBQing the remains!

Who cares about the loss of one person? It's on freakin' human being. The world has billions of more humans to take it's place.

Human beings have souls. Do you really want to get into the whole humans-are-more-important-than-animals arguement?

Who's to say animals don't? Kill yourself since there's billions of other humans to take your place.
 

dabuddha

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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Screw what everyone is saying JzL. I would have done the exact same thing. My first priority is always my family and if I see a snake that big, it's going down. You don't know whether it's poisonous or not and that's just not a risk worth taking.
 

JzL

Golden Member
Jul 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: JzL
Originally posted by: vital
u should at least cook it and eat it if you killed it

~ Negative ~

Make a pair of boots?

You know, if I had the talent or the money to have it done.. that would be a good idea.

Even though I dont wear boots, I am more of a sneaker guy, I could always give them to my father. As of right now, the snake is going to be made into Turkey Buzzard fecies ....
 

JzL

Golden Member
Jul 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Screw what everyone is saying JzL. I would have done the exact same thing. My first priority is always my family and if I see a snake that big, it's going down. You don't know whether it's poisonous or not and that's just not a risk worth taking.



Thanks, I was feelling a little on the lonesome side!
 

Cashmoney995

Senior member
Jul 12, 2002
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Originally posted by: JzL
Screw you all.. I am not going to have that thing around my yard!

I agree with him, Im not having that thing crawlin around my yard, Especiialllly with a kid. True I would have moved it...but...eh...it doesnt matter.

I hereby christen you St. Patrick the second.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: JzL
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Screw what everyone is saying JzL. I would have done the exact same thing. My first priority is always my family and if I see a snake that big, it's going down. You don't know whether it's poisonous or not and that's just not a risk worth taking.



Thanks, I was feelling a little on the lonesome side!

im here for ya too!
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Who cares about the loss of one snake? It's one freaking snake. The world has billions of more snakes to take it's place. I dunno about you guys but I'm not Tarzan or the Beastmaster. If that snake found it's way into my house or yard, I'm not taking chances, I'm BBQing the remains!

Who cares about the loss of one person? It's on freakin' human being. The world has billions of more humans to take it's place.

Human beings have souls. Do you really want to get into the whole humans-are-more-important-than-animals arguement?

No, because there is no argument for such unbridled anthropocentric hubris.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Who cares about the loss of one snake? It's one freaking snake. The world has billions of more snakes to take it's place. I dunno about you guys but I'm not Tarzan or the Beastmaster. If that snake found it's way into my house or yard, I'm not taking chances, I'm BBQing the remains!

Who cares about the loss of one person? It's on freakin' human being. The world has billions of more humans to take it's place.

Human beings have souls. Do you really want to get into the whole humans-are-more-important-than-animals arguement?

No, because there is no argument for such unbridled anthropocentric hubris.

Believe what you want. I'll believe what I want. :)
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Who cares about the loss of one snake? It's one freaking snake. The world has billions of more snakes to take it's place. I dunno about you guys but I'm not Tarzan or the Beastmaster. If that snake found it's way into my house or yard, I'm not taking chances, I'm BBQing the remains!

Who cares about the loss of one person? It's on freakin' human being. The world has billions of more humans to take it's place.

Human beings have souls. Do you really want to get into the whole humans-are-more-important-than-animals arguement?

No, because there is no argument for such unbridled anthropocentric hubris.

Believe what you want. I'll believe what I want. :)

Fair enough :beer::D
 

JzL

Golden Member
Jul 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: PreachTru
JzL you did the right thing... especially with kids around. Regardless if that snake is poisonous or not.
Christ. WTF is wrong with you people?

TEH NOES KILL THE SNAKE THINK OF THE CHILDREN AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

:roll:

I might be able to understand if it was a rattlesnake. People that disregard life because it isn't cute and fuzzy piss me off to no end.

"ewwww.. kill the snake!" ... "aww.. look at the pigeon".

and what the hell does that mean ?!? :roll:
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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heh poor snake.
though i do understand why you killed it. You do know you did more harm then good? that snake kept the population of rats, mice and other critters down. Not ot mention it would not have harmed you at all.
 

JzL

Golden Member
Jul 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: waggy
heh poor snake.
though i do understand why you killed it. You do know you did more harm then good? that snake kept the population of rats, mice and other critters down. Not ot mention it would not have harmed you at all.


There are a lot of snakes around here... one is not going to hurt the rodent population in the least bit... I do understand what you are saying but it would be different it went out with my trusty ol' stick (heh) and hunted specifically for these guys. It just happened to be in my yard :/
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: waggy
heh poor snake.
though i do understand why you killed it. You do know you did more harm then good? that snake kept the population of rats, mice and other critters down. Not ot mention it would not have harmed you at all.

Snakes sometimes don't eat for weeks -and when they DO eat, they don't eat entire nests of mice, rats, and other critters. They're not bottomless voids. A single snake will not keep an infestation down. The odds of a single snake preventing two nests of mice from turning into an infestation is ... well, let's just say you have a better chance hitting the lottery.

<edited for grammar :p)
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: waggy
heh poor snake.
though i do understand why you killed it. You do know you did more harm then good? that snake kept the population of rats, mice and other critters down. Not ot mention it would not have harmed you at all.

Snakes sometimes don't eat for weeks -and when they DO eat, they don't eat an entire nests of mice, rats, and other critters. They're not bottomless voids. A single snake will not keep an infestation down. The odds of a single snake preventing two nests of mice from turning into an infestation is ... well, let's just say you have a better chance hitting the lottery.

true that they don't eat often (i have a few snakes as pets myself) But i read where they even one snake will scare off some rodents.

My ball pythons eat a small rat once every week. I had one that didnt eat for 4 months.