Charlie Kirk shot in the neck during Utah debate and has now passed.

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zinfamous

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Nothing good coming out of this. The last major shooting of a fascist leader was quickly followed by Musk pouring hundreds of millions into Trump’s campaign and getting the fascist elected. Anyone who thinks the assassination of this fascist is going to be helpful may be disappointed. Kirk was an absolute horrible trash human and absent any other context the country is better off without these hate peddlers. Kirk was actively causing harm and was a net negative for the world. He stoked and justified the sort of sentiment that leads to political violence. However, given the political climate, there’s a meaningful chance this is a tipping point for net-negative consequences even though 75% or so of the populace probably never heard of the guy. He didn’t deserve to get sniped in public like that. He is likely to become a martyr to the cause among the people who are fans of his hateful propaganda. MAGA will dine out on this for… well, forever. Charlie Kirk is about to become the Monster’s Horst Wessel.

All this hand wringing aside ...We live in a post truth society; people are going to believe whatever they want. We’re so far past the point where removing part of Charlie Kirk’s corotid artery in public will move the needle. Normal doesn’t matter anymore.

This man reaped what he sowed. Kirk said that gun deaths are a price society has to be willing to pay to protect the 2nd amendment. However when he said that, he obviously meant other people’s deaths, like school children. He didn’t mean his own death.

Thoughts go out to his innocent children.

The FBI killed him so we stop talking about pedophile Trump's rape romps on Epstein Island.
 

zinfamous

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literally the post after yours

posts like these and like the first page of the thread "repulicans cant take the heat", and people saying things like "one less enemy" might well all be direct calls for more violence

its not confirmation bias, its already happened, and still happening in real time

there is a disturbing amount of so called 'liberals, leftists, or progressives' in this thread who are genuinely happy this man was murdered, and it makes me ashamed that I share a bed with these people.

it doesn't matter if you hated him, this man being dead isn't a good thing, and it doesn't get us closer to more human rights or free healthcare. to dehumanize political opponents is what the nazis did and there sure is a lot of dehumanizing going on in this thread. (and a lot of people being kind, but also a good bunch of hate)

oh look, the supporter of nazis and pedophiles is in here doing that thing where he tries to call everyone else Nazis, simply because the bad things are actually happening that we long told him would happen if he keeps supporting Nazis and pedophiles. But no, it's not because we were right all along, it's apparently because we are Nazis for telling him true things that hurt his feelings.

he also can't read. No one wanted this human stain dead. But also no one cares that he got exactly what he begged for. You should be happy for him, you know? It's not every day you get to see someone attain their life dream!
 

zinfamous

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thats great man, compare yourself to trump, like all american liberals aspire to do... lmao like what?


you don't have to morun him, but people coming out to say they're glad he's dead is objectively unhinged

it's not that interesting that you don't understand rhetoric and the display of human emotions that you witness in here are very confusing to you--it's on brand for those that happily find themselves surrounded by a party run by Nazis and pedophiles. Either you are happy with that plain fact, or you are truly this incoherent to not realize what is happening around you.

so yeah, it's normal that you are confused by the content of thinking people.
 

NWRMidnight

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Yeah right. Charlie never even got close to losing a debate with any liberal idiot, he shut everyone down. Most stomped off or changed their minds and voted for Trump. Result was a win of the popular vote. That's why they had to kill him. He was unbeatable and his logic absolutely on point.

Most of the posts I am reading here are political violence is bad but "I'm glad he's dead."

Charlie will live on in all of us who believe in all that is true and beautiful.
Read what I said again and do some actual research rather than walking around with the junk of the right wing propaganda network hanging out of your mouth.

He rarely took on a debate with someone armed with the facts, because he was destroyed every single time. It's your choice to keep believing that his Cherry picked debates he did do, where any kind of legitimate win.
 

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While I thought the guy was a douche bag I feel sadness for his family especially his young kids that now won't have a father. He might have been an awesome dad. Politics doesn't disqualify you as being a good parent.

well one can only imagine that he taught his kids to hate and kill jews and transgendered people, just as he yelled at his acolytes to do.

I don't consider that being a good dad. And if he was the complete opposite person at home....then what does one think about someone so vile that they would take so much money from Peter Thiel and others to go out and public and call for violence against all marginalized communities?
 
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zinfamous

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Charlie will live on in all of us who believe in all that is true and beautiful.

One of the most unapologetically hateful cvnts that ever lived in this country, and this is what you think of him? How fucking stupid are you? Hell, this is really disrespectful to the man. He worked HARD to get his message across to you dildoheads, and you got it so fucking backward. What a shameful acolyte you are to his cause. You need to go back to school.
 

zinfamous

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Unfortunately they wont. They lost their father. It will haunt them for life. Political violence isn't acceptable .

Well we don't have to worry about that too much because he wasn't a politician, just a hate merchant. Yes, I know this is confusing because hate and the policies of the Republican party are indistingiushable, but this was a hateful little man that took money telling his fans to go kill disenfranchised people. And he started doing it as a little fucking child.

There are people in this thread right here that think of him as "beautiful and peaceful" .... let that sink in for a second. If you have a brain, and your brain takes the input of "kill jews, transgendered people, and school students because we need freedom and those minorities are killing our white utopia" and output that as "peaceful beauty!" ...then you might be a really fucking sick person. I don't really think that is politics, but the people that complain about this as an attack on their politics are, well, extremely dangerous people. It tells you that they have very strongly politicized violence. It also seems they are extremely offended that the consequences of their doing so are becoming very real.

One wonders why they are incapable of accepting the natural progression of the things they claim to want. They should have expected this, no?
 

Jaskalas

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my mask? I think the only people wearing masks are the folks desperately trying to justify murder and an acceleration towards civil war.

you do not beat charlie kirk and donald trump by being worse than them. fact.
I oppose the escalation. But that's like wishing a collapsing dam wouldn't wash away the village below it.
And since people ARE involved in the acceleration, and I've detailed for you major steps they have taken towards it... starting with Jan 6th.....

There seems to be some confusion. Some evidence can help with that.

4 days ago, the President of the United States said “Chicago is about to find out why it’s called the Department of WAR”…​

And now Conservatives claim the Left needs to stop condoning violence
Who wants a Department of War?
Who wants military on our streets?
Who forces guns to stay on our streets?

A few more steps down the pages of this story is a civil war. I cannot mourn for anyone who was helping to cause that. But as the escalation continues apace, I do mourn for the nation we had. Post tense, because I know with every fiber of my being, that it already died some time ago. Democracy cannot exist without consent of the governed, and MAGA Nazis withdrew their consent following the 2020 election. This is why there were schemes with fraudulent electors, and why Jan 6th happened. That was the end of civil discourse. That is when the dam broke.

And now, with MAGA's use of power in 2025, creating a fascist Nazi state? It should be obvious to everyone how this story ends.
BTW, the Western military force that stopped Nazi Germany was not "worse than them". Fact.
 

Jaskalas

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It would appear Republicans directly invited guns onto the school campus. So any would-be assassin would not be prevented by security.
How... awkward for them.

Republicans in Utah passed a law allowing guns on college campuses, and Charlie Kirk was fatally shot at one of those campuses

Orem, UT – Utah Republicans passed House Bill 128 during the 2025 General Session, allowing individuals 18 and older with a concealed weapon permit (CWP) to openly carry firearms on college campuses, a law that took effect on May 7, and is now under intense scrutiny following the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University (UVU) earlier today.
The bill, signed by Gov. Spencer Cox on March 25, clarifies that permit holders may carry concealed or openly on public campuses, with university police verifying compliance.
 

HomerJS

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He was in the "lovers quarrel" conspiracy camp. He was saying that someone should bail him out to the get the real story. But go ahead and believe whatever story makes you feel better about yourself for your hatred of him. 🤷‍♂️
Now we are supposed to love the person who lied and profited off the misery of others because he wanted to believe a bullshit conspiracy theory.

Look at the kind of shit you are forced to create to justify his kind of evil and vile. So long as we get a story about Nancy Pelosi’s husband being gay it’s cool to cheer for the attacker.

Also note the difference in grace and tone between Joe Biden, Barack Obama vs what is offered by Donald Trump when Minnesota Democrats were assassinated. Did Trump offer any words of healing after the kidnap attempt of Gretchen Whitmer? I suggest you look inward
 
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MrSquished

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Liberals aren't being ghoulish, but leftists sure are. I also checked this thread out of curiosity. I did end up disappointed, despite my already low expectations. Like, holy fuck.
It's too bad you were intercourse instead of your mom giving a blowjob. What a damn shame.
 

HomerJS

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literally the post after yours

posts like these and like the first page of the thread "repulicans cant take the heat", and people saying things like "one less enemy" might well all be direct calls for more violence

its not confirmation bias, its already happened, and still happening in real time

there is a disturbing amount of so called 'liberals, leftists, or progressives' in this thread who are genuinely happy this man was murdered, and it makes me ashamed that I share a bed with these people.

it doesn't matter if you hated him, this man being dead isn't a good thing, and it doesn't get us closer to more human rights or free healthcare. to dehumanize political opponents is what the nazis did and there sure is a lot of dehumanizing going on in this thread. (and a lot of people being kind, but also a good bunch of hate)
Twisting statements to justify Kirk’s evil

Watching your own backyard means the evil is coming from within. Like the movie meme the killer is inside your own house

You left out the critical 2nd part of the phrase “can’t take the heat” which was “ don’t start fires”. You can’t complain about political violence when you do everything to promote it. Biden or Obama have NEVER advocated for political violence. There are multiple instances where Trump has. Trump had peaceful protesters shit and gassed in DC

BTW - calling Republicans fascist is not political violence. It’s no different then calling Democrats Marxist except the former is factual
 

HomerJS

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any reasonable person doesn't want a civil war, and if one side is fanning the flames you dont just go and help them fan

and you directly said republicans wanted to kill problems away. if you're not seeing it in the MSM where are all of these evil republicans you hear from?

like why all of the gaslighting and doublespeak? anyone can see what your said?

definitely dont want to break the numbers down by county. I live in one of the top 10 highest murder rate cities, in a republican state, in a county and city that is majority blue.

all of this partisan side taking is worthless once you actually get down to the data, this is about individual people and their individual beliefs at the end of the day. Republicans nor democrats as ideologies alone drive someone to be insane and commit murder.

I mean fuck playing the stat game is what all the alt right kiddies do with the FBI stats, its like my same point over and over again, don't play their games.

my mask? I think the only people wearing masks are the folks desperately trying to justify murder and an acceleration towards civil war.

you do not beat charlie kirk and donald trump by being worse than them. fact.
Worse than them? Answer this who is the only party leader who had peaceful protestors shot with rubber bullets and gassed? Who wanted to shoot those same protesters in the legs with live rounds?

Now tell me the bothsides bullshit again
 
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HomerJS

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So you're pretending like the revolution and the civil war didn't exist?


yeah because thats the logicial supposition for someone in that mindstate? And extremists who think trump is a real true to life nazi also might support violence in exactly the same way?


Sorry but how many mass shooting or terrorst attacks are you personally a victim of? I have traveled across the country in my years both for lesuire and for work and I can assure you, the average human being doesn't act they way most people do on P&N, let alone this supposed any tendency towards violence. I have been friends with, worked with, and worked for republicans, democrats, jewish people, muslims, and everywhere in between in my life and I can say without a doubt the average person does not feel extreme towards human life.

I understand these are statististics and the way things may skew, but its not like we're looking at 90/10 splits are we? why are you trying to equate 1 in 3 (in a survey) as an average?


yeah sorry for not wanting my party to stoop to violence

just because you want blood doesn't mean we needed it. major national socialist vibes

you guys just want us to pull a night of broken glass against the republicans? wait... gotta pull a night of the long knives and murder all the 'wrongthinkers' in your party first huh?

there really is no presumption for blood, in a civilized democracy people don't murder each other, especially for political reasons. This wasn't a fucking duel or anything socialized. A human was murdered and dehumanizing him should be taboo but somehow its not... Seriously... we don't want this on our side. thinking its okay on their side only makes things way way worse
Nobody dehumanized Kirk they just quoted him. If his words were acceptable for others why are they not acceptable for him?