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FP

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Have had cats for a few years now as well as a dog.

Recently I have been trying to keep the cat off my desk because his fur gets everywhere including my cpu case. So I either gently take him off or clap my hands until he jumps off.

Perhaps coincidentally, he has started peeing in my things. It first started with my gym bag. He was looking at me the entire time he was doing it and even refused to stop peeing when I picked him up.

Then he went in the dogs bed which was next to my desk, again looking at me the entire time.

Finally, he went in my suitcase when it was open and full of clothes. I wasn't in the room at the time.

He never does this on my wife's belongings or in her presence.

Everything I could find online says that cats do not spray/pee out of spite but I am starting to think this is wrong. They mentioned it is usually due to an illness. I am going to take him to the vet just to be sure but this all seems too coincidental.

Any ATOTers have a cat that has exhibited similar behaviour?

Does my cat hate me? :)
 

HamburgerBoy

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My dog did it, and cats being more clever, I don't see why they wouldn't do things out of spite.
 

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Oh, yes. Cats very definitely absolutely for completely sure do things out of spite.

Like when you don't feed them as much as they think you should. They totally get right on your desk....look you straight in the eye....and push one of your speakers off with their paw - watching you the whole time.

It's like...DAMNIT!! CAT!! OFF!! But, yeah, that has, like, NO effect at all, so....
 

FP

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Originally posted by: dxkj
yes, they do do that


is this a non neutered male?

He is neutered. I can't imagine what it would be like if he wasn't.
 

OdiN

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They do not do it out of spite. How old was the cat when he was neutered?

Take him to the vet.
 

FP

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Originally posted by: OdiN
They do not do it out of spite. How old was the cat when he was neutered?

Take him to the vet.

He is a rescue cat. He was about 1.5 when we adopted him and that was about the time he was neutered.

Speak of the devil... He just walked in the room with a crazy look in his eye. Took this pic just seconds ago.
 

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Originally posted by: binister
Originally posted by: OdiN
They do not do it out of spite. How old was the cat when he was neutered?

Take him to the vet.

He is a rescue cat. He was about 1.5 when we adopted him and that was about the time he was neutered.

Speak of the devil... He just walked in the room with a crazy look in his eye. Took this pic just seconds ago.

Dude, that cat is crazy. I'd close my door at night, never know when he's gonna get the urge to go on you >.>
 
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My dad has 9 cats. Every time I stay at his place I feel like they are plotting something. I've awoken on the couch with four of them staring at me... *shudder*

Evil...
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: binister
Originally posted by: OdiN
They do not do it out of spite. How old was the cat when he was neutered?

Take him to the vet.

He is a rescue cat. He was about 1.5 when we adopted him and that was about the time he was neutered.

Speak of the devil... He just walked in the room with a crazy look in his eye. Took this pic just seconds ago.

There is your problem. He is a male and if he was not neutered until 1 1/2 years, then he is going to spray to mark territory like an non-neutered male would do.
 

FP

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: binister
Originally posted by: OdiN
They do not do it out of spite. How old was the cat when he was neutered?

Take him to the vet.

He is a rescue cat. He was about 1.5 when we adopted him and that was about the time he was neutered.

Speak of the devil... He just walked in the room with a crazy look in his eye. Took this pic just seconds ago.

There is your problem. He is a male and if he was not neutered until 1 1/2 years, then he is going to spray to mark territory like an non-neutered male would do.

I would agree except he isn't spraying, he is doing his business to the full extent and he hasn't done this in the last year we have had him. It started after I would kick him off my desk.

I have seen cats spray and it is more of a quick burst of urine. This is a "grab the paper and make a morning of it" type of action.
 

FP

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Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: binister
Originally posted by: OdiN
They do not do it out of spite. How old was the cat when he was neutered?

Take him to the vet.

He is a rescue cat. He was about 1.5 when we adopted him and that was about the time he was neutered.

Speak of the devil... He just walked in the room with a crazy look in his eye. Took this pic just seconds ago.

Dude, that cat is crazy. I'd close my door at night, never know when he's gonna get the urge to go on you >.>


lol. :D
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: binister
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: binister
Originally posted by: OdiN
They do not do it out of spite. How old was the cat when he was neutered?

Take him to the vet.

He is a rescue cat. He was about 1.5 when we adopted him and that was about the time he was neutered.

Speak of the devil... He just walked in the room with a crazy look in his eye. Took this pic just seconds ago.

There is your problem. He is a male and if he was not neutered until 1 1/2 years, then he is going to spray to mark territory like an non-neutered male would do.

I would agree except he isn't spraying, he is doing his business to the full extent and he hasn't done this in the last year we have had him. It started after I would kick him off my desk.

I have seen cats spray and it is more of a quick burst of urine. This is a "grab the paper and make a morning of it" type of action.

Fine...watch for spraying. But still..this is abnormal behaviour. Unless his litterbox is really dirty and not being cleaned. Take him to the vet and have him checked out - it could be a serious probem.
 

Vic

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Cats definitely do things out of spite, including pee or crap if they're really angry at you. They're very intelligent animals, with strong emotions and long memories. I would say that he thinks you're ignoring or slighting him and he is determined to get your attention, positive or negative. You should still take it to the vet, of course, because this could also be the cat's way of getting your attention that it is sick (if that is the case).

While both involve urine, spraying is much different behavior than peeing. When a male cat sprays, it does so standing up, with its tail and back lifted high and tensed, and the urine shoots straight out behind it. Peeing is done from a more relaxed hunched position. If allowed to continue, cats have a tendency to spray over and over again in the same spot.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Vic
Cats definitely do things out of spite, including pee or crap if they're really angry at you. They're very intelligent animals, with strong emotions and long memories. I would say that he thinks you're ignoring or slighting him and he is determined to get your attention, positive or negative. You should still take it to the vet, of course, because this could also be the cat's way of getting your attention that it is sick (if that is the case).

While both involve urine, spraying is much different behavior than peeing. When a male cat sprays, it does so standing up, with its tail and back lifted high and tensed, and the urine shoots straight out behind it. Peeing is done from a more relaxed hunched position. If allowed to continue, cats have a tendency to spray over and over again in the same spot.

No cats do not do things out of spite.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: binister
Perhaps coincidentally, he has started peeing in my things.

Coincidentally? Ha ha.

Originally posted by: binister
He never does this on my wife's belongings or in her presence.

That's because your wife isn't rejecting him, or shooing him away.

Originally posted by: binister
Does my cat hate me? :)

He doesn't hate you, he's just teaching you who is boss.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: OdiN
No cats do not do things out of spite.
I've had cats all my life and know for fact that they do. I take it you've never had any cats? Or maybe you just think they're stupid furballs and have never bothered to get inside their little heads?
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: binister
Have had cats for a few years now as well as a dog.

Recently I have been trying to keep the cat off my desk because his fur gets everywhere including my cpu case.

What's more important? Keeping fur off your desk, or urine out of your clothes? Maybe it's time to let him back on the desk.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: binister
Have had cats for a few years now as well as a dog.

Recently I have been trying to keep the cat off my desk because his fur gets everywhere including my cpu case.

What's more important? Keeping fur off your desk, or urine out of your clothes? Maybe it's time to let him back on the desk.

That is the worst suggestion ever. You can't teach cats not to do something by just allowing them to do it. His being removed from a desk has nothing to do with him peeing on things.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: OdiN
No cats do not do things out of spite.
I've had cats all my life and know for fact that they do. I take it you've never had any cats? Or maybe you just think they're stupid furballs and have never bothered to get inside their little heads?

I have a cat. And I've had many, many, many cats over the years and know for a fact that they don't. I am not saying that they are stupid. They are far from that. But they do not do things out of spite - it is a foreign concept to them.
 

Vic

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Speaking of... my Maine my excellent compatriot just made a pain in the ass of himself on my desk trying to drink out of my water glass. That's his way of telling me that he felt the water in his dish was not fresh enough. He got his way -- I gave him fresh water (he demands I change it several times a day). But nah... they're stupid animals incapable of thought. Those 2 incidences couldn't have been related.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: OdiN
No cats do not do things out of spite.
I've had cats all my life and know for fact that they do. I take it you've never had any cats? Or maybe you just think they're stupid furballs and have never bothered to get inside their little heads?
I have a cat. And I've had many, many, many cats over the years and know for a fact that they don't. I am not saying that they are stupid. They are far from that. But they do not do things out of spite - it is a foreign concept to them.
Spite a foreign concept to cats? That's one of the funniest things I've ever read on ATOT.