miketheidiot
Lifer
such as?
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Carter is just plain looney lately
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such as?
Bush exposed the imbecility of the people who voted for him. Those without a sense of organic shame are powerfully motivated to hide this fact from themselves. They can't allow themselves to see what a disaster Bush is and what their votes have done to the nation. They compound their stupidity with the hubris of denial.
BoomerD
No Lifer
If you compare Jimmy Carter to your Commander-in-Chimp, Former President Carter comes out as a genius, and expert statesman...PLUS, he can say nuk-u-ler...
Was he a great president? No...but we were in the brief depression following the Nixon/Ford years, and after Vietnam...unemployment was pretty high, (between 5.8 and 7.1%) and interest rates were thru the roof...However, since those on the right say Clinton can't lay claim to the prosperity of the 90's, Carter sure can't be blamed for what he inherited in the 70's...
Carter TRIED...god help him, he TRIED...he was a GOOD man in a sh*tty job, during a tough time...The Iranian Hostage Crisis sure didn't help his public image either. IIRC, there was one failed attempt to go in and rescue the hostages...and it fell apart almost before it got started...
MAYBE that should be proof that a truly religious man should never be President...too much conflict of interest...
Was he a great president? No...but we were in the brief depression following the Nixon/Ford years, and after Vietnam...unemployment was pretty high, (between 5.8 and 7.1%) and interest rates were thru the roof...However, since those on the right say Clinton can't lay claim to the prosperity of the 90's, Carter sure can't be blamed for what he inherited in the 70's...
Carter TRIED...god help him, he TRIED...he was a GOOD man in a sh*tty job, during a tough time...The Iranian Hostage Crisis sure didn't help his public image either. IIRC, there was one failed attempt to go in and rescue the hostages...and it fell apart almost before it got started...
MAYBE that should be proof that a truly religious man should never be President...too much conflict of interest...
Whoozyerdaddy
Lifer
Loony or lonely?
There's nothing sadder than a lonely old man crying for attention.
The Hstory Channel did a GREAT show on that event. Frickin' mechanical problems.
There's nothing sadder than a lonely old man crying for attention.
The Hstory Channel did a GREAT show on that event. Frickin' mechanical problems.
Siddhartha
Lifer
Is the OP a troll?
With statements like below I wonder.
"Bogus Nobel Peace prize"
"the vileness of the Democrat hatred towards Bush"
"Bush does some things to drive us all mad, only Carter is off his meds."
ProfJohn
Lifer
We have precedence in our country where former Presidents do not speak ill of those who follow them. Did you notice that Bush 41 never spoke ill of Clinton and Clinton never speaks ill of Bush 43, Clinton seems to go out of his way to be diplomatic about what he disagrees with.
Carter has thrown that precedence to the side and launched a rather harsh attack on the current President. Besides ignoring tons of history this has a very negative affect on how the world views us. It is one thing for people such as the posters on here to run around and attack Bush; it is another for a former President to do the same. As a former President Carter has a duty to uphold and respect the President, even when he doesn?t agree with him.
You are ignorant if you don?t think our enemies will by using these words against the US in the future. I am sure even now the terrorists are planning on ways to use these words to rally more to their sides. And I am sure crazies like the Iranian President will do the same, telling their people how Bush is the worse President in history and the like.
There is nothing positive that can come out of Carter?s statements. Except to make a few of the ?hate Bush? crowd happy.
Carter has thrown that precedence to the side and launched a rather harsh attack on the current President. Besides ignoring tons of history this has a very negative affect on how the world views us. It is one thing for people such as the posters on here to run around and attack Bush; it is another for a former President to do the same. As a former President Carter has a duty to uphold and respect the President, even when he doesn?t agree with him.
You are ignorant if you don?t think our enemies will by using these words against the US in the future. I am sure even now the terrorists are planning on ways to use these words to rally more to their sides. And I am sure crazies like the Iranian President will do the same, telling their people how Bush is the worse President in history and the like.
There is nothing positive that can come out of Carter?s statements. Except to make a few of the ?hate Bush? crowd happy.
Short and sweet. Your statement is right on the mark. The neo-con use of these Maoist techniques is more revealing of this evil regime than they could imagine.
This is one conservative who's attitude borders on livid that neo-con Trotskyites have taken over my party, used our country's assets against our own interests, murdered thousands and shamed our nation and its good-hearted people. And, oh yeah, treat our Constitution like it was a dirty rag. ("it's only a god damned piece of paper")
I hope the women that elect our next president will choose an honorable MAN next time instead of another like the last two "boy friends". That would be a pleasant beginning to get our country back. Hey, girls. How about a very principled obstetrician for the next president?
Bowfinger
Lifer
Well said, both of you. In spite of the feigned outrage of the Bush faithful, Carter was 100% on the mark. If his remarks open the eyes of even a few more people (bringing them up to speed with the other 95% of the world), it will be worth whatever discomfort it causes those pathetic few who fear America's not strong enough for a little blunt talk.
dmcowen674
No Lifer
I suggest that these people be rounded up as "Enemy Combatants" under the Patriot Act.
The resident die-hard Bush supporters and anyone with ties to this heinous administration.
There is so many of them that Gitmo would be too small of a facility.
One of the Marshall Islands under U.S. authority could be used to exile these America Haters forever until they die.
BaliBabyDoc
Lifer
While pluralities don't necessarily make anything true:
1) Most Americans disapprove of Bush43's job performance.
2) Most world citizens disapprove of Bush43 at multiple levels.
3) Despite domestic and foreign policy initiatives that have been widely praised, most Brits disapprove of Blair.
4) Most world citizens disapprove of Blair.
In addition,
5) Tenet and Powell notwithstanding Blair was the single largest enabler of the Bush War.
6) In Blair's own words, he sought to influence US policy by going along with the Bush War.
7) Bush/Blair played off one another. Basically, claiming they had independent lines of evidence that substantiated one another. When in fact, both were often using the SAME intelligence sources or more accurately the SAME interpretation of minimal intelligence.
8) Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and GHWBush are unlikely to have established black site prisons and an openly extrajudicial purgatory at Gitmo. In fact, GHWBush explicitly disapproved of Rumsfeld. Bush the Idiot appointed Rumsfeld in spite of his father's knowledgeable disdain for Rumsfeld.
In fact, it's only the looney fringe like the OP that fail to realize just how much damage Bush43's foreign policy has done to our nation. We haven't been this weak as a nation since well . . . Jimmy Carter. And at least Carter's foibles came at wholesale.
1) Most Americans disapprove of Bush43's job performance.
2) Most world citizens disapprove of Bush43 at multiple levels.
3) Despite domestic and foreign policy initiatives that have been widely praised, most Brits disapprove of Blair.
4) Most world citizens disapprove of Blair.
In addition,
5) Tenet and Powell notwithstanding Blair was the single largest enabler of the Bush War.
6) In Blair's own words, he sought to influence US policy by going along with the Bush War.
7) Bush/Blair played off one another. Basically, claiming they had independent lines of evidence that substantiated one another. When in fact, both were often using the SAME intelligence sources or more accurately the SAME interpretation of minimal intelligence.
8) Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and GHWBush are unlikely to have established black site prisons and an openly extrajudicial purgatory at Gitmo. In fact, GHWBush explicitly disapproved of Rumsfeld. Bush the Idiot appointed Rumsfeld in spite of his father's knowledgeable disdain for Rumsfeld.
In fact, it's only the looney fringe like the OP that fail to realize just how much damage Bush43's foreign policy has done to our nation. We haven't been this weak as a nation since well . . . Jimmy Carter. And at least Carter's foibles came at wholesale.
I don't really want to get into the whole carter bashing discussion, but I really want to know something. Who is allowed to criticize the president? All I ever seem to hear about is how this person shouldn't be speaking out against the president, that person shouldn't be. This group should be doing what the president wants, etc... etc... etc. Who is allowed!?
Lemon law
Lifer
Time to dispute the bogus Nobel peace prize thing----you may not like the fact that Carter was awarded the Nobel prize but at least it was not self awarded. And its quite genuine and also for what its worth, the Israeli Egyptian peace is still holding.
I also fail to see why the Carter foreign policy was a disaster. If anything, the Carter administration was a point at which world respect for the US was at a high point. And Carter, quite unlike Reagan and GWB, did not negotiate with or arm terrorists.
I also dispute the mere 50,000 Iraqi deaths even though precise statistics may never be never known. Some estimates based on fairly good science places the Iraqi death toll at closer to 650,000 and thats a dated figure. But GWB in ignorance or by design has set loose passions that will alter the world. So far it seems an unmitigated disaster and Carter has every right to call it as he sees it. I think Carter with a Nobel peace prize has a wee mite more credibility than GWB who self awarded himself as a uniter and not a divider.
Carter has the legacy of a uniter and GWB has the record of dividing into armed violence. Its kinda what a peace prize is all about come to think of it.
I also fail to see why the Carter foreign policy was a disaster. If anything, the Carter administration was a point at which world respect for the US was at a high point. And Carter, quite unlike Reagan and GWB, did not negotiate with or arm terrorists.
I also dispute the mere 50,000 Iraqi deaths even though precise statistics may never be never known. Some estimates based on fairly good science places the Iraqi death toll at closer to 650,000 and thats a dated figure. But GWB in ignorance or by design has set loose passions that will alter the world. So far it seems an unmitigated disaster and Carter has every right to call it as he sees it. I think Carter with a Nobel peace prize has a wee mite more credibility than GWB who self awarded himself as a uniter and not a divider.
Carter has the legacy of a uniter and GWB has the record of dividing into armed violence. Its kinda what a peace prize is all about come to think of it.
Frankly, it's even more distressing that you actually think you can argue against Carter's postion, mainly because he's absolutely right.
George W. Bush and his entire adminstration should be tried for the MURDER of every American who has died in their WAR OF LIES in Iraq. That's 3422, as of today, including seven just yesterday. Every excuse they fed us as a reason for starting this war was lie after ever changing lie. Those deaths are the direct result of their callous, wanton, reckless disregard for the truth and for the foreseeable, expected consequences of their lies.
George W. Bush and his entire adminstration should be tried for TREASON for shredding the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution.
Anyone who who calls Carter "looney" and "a belligerent little turd" for speaking the truth and continues to apologize and cover for the Bushwhacko administration in the face of so much evidence of their criminality is far worse than a "belligerent little turd." They are one of the traitors. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:
As a former President
Yet another blatant LIE from PrevaricatorJohn[/i]. How can you possibly argue that a President who swore to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the United States is obligated to "uphold and respect" a murdering traitor like George W. Bush? :shocked:
Another of your tyipical, piss poor sycophantic attempts to dodge the issue and distract attention anywhere but the Criminal In Chief and his cabal of murderers and traitors. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:
At least, you didn't try to tell us it was Clinton's fault... for a change. 😛
Do you have a problem with the truth? :shocked:
Whether you liked Carter as a President, he is respected worldwide for being truthful and honest. As a former President, he is among the most qualified to speak out against the criminal traitor currently occupying the office.
Lately?
Carter has been a crackpot ever since they pulled him off the peanut farm to DC.
This is just the latest shining example of another ex-POTUS going berserk. Carter has actually argued against the US at the UN on numerous occasions. It's disgraceful, despicable, and downright shameful.
Carter has been a crackpot ever since they pulled him off the peanut farm to DC.
This is just the latest shining example of another ex-POTUS going berserk. Carter has actually argued against the US at the UN on numerous occasions. It's disgraceful, despicable, and downright shameful.
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