Can't shoot someone unless they have a gun too

madoka

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Libtards have lost their minds. Can't picture many women wanting to lay down their guns so they can fist fight men or talk to their rapists.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...less-your-attacker-has-a-gun/#comment-1214425

The world the people behind Mayors Against Illegal Guns inhabit seems to be mighty black and white. With maybe a slight green tinge to the sky. Mark Glaze, executive director of MAIG, believes that someone should only be allowed to use a gun to defend themselves if their attacker also has a one. In his opinion, the lack of a gun indicates that the attacker “just wants to have a fistfight.” Yeah, well, tell that to the two people per day in this country who are beaten to death with their attackers’ bare hands. Or the 12 others who die every day from attacks that don’t involve firearms. In those cases, Mark Glaze would rather the victim not even have the option to defend their lives. Here’s the transcript of a conversation he had recently with noted Constitutionalist Chris Matthews via FreeBeacon.com:


MARK GLAZE: Very often somebody will come at you. They might want to have a fistfight. They might come at you with an axe handle.

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Would you consider the guy with the axe handle armed or not?

MARK GLAZE: Not with a gun.

CHRIS MATTHEWS: I would consider him armed [laughter].

MARK GLAZE: I have a word for him. I grew up in Colorado where my dad was a gun dealer, and a guy who shoots somebody who has anything other than a gun when they could have done something else like talk or fight with their fists –

CHRIS MATTHEWS: How do you talk to a guy with an axe handle?

MARK GLAZE: Well, you fight him. You run away. You deescalate the situation.
 

Zodiark1593

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So, that world they inhabit, is it filled with unicorns and rainbows too? Maybe clouds depicting a very certain leaf floating in the sky. A few friends would pay very dearly to have what they're smoking.

I don't even think that kind of mentality deserves any sort of intelligent thought on my part, or even proper grammar for that matter. I understand (and can disagree with) people wanting to restrict access to firearms, but debating with someone Mark Glaze is akin to repeatedly smashing my head against a brick wall.
 
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Fuck that. They're ignorant, insane fucktards and a danger to all mankind. They ever get this thinking anywhere near reality and I'll personally raise an army to kill them all before they destroy what's left of the world.
 

SparkyJJO

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From one of the comments, hits the nail on the head:

If a 5’2″100 lb beauty is attacked by a 6’5″ 250 lb guy with the intention of rape and murder, if he doesn’t have a gun, she has to rely on her ability to physically overpower the man.

Wonder if Glaze really thought his position through. I suppose that's probably asking too much for him to do that.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Anything other than a gun? Is guy guy mentally damaged or just a trolling gun prohibitionist? He expects someone defending themselves from a knife wielding attacker to just give ground when they have a means to turn the table? I'm sorry but this guy is a moron and seems to typify the gun prohibition movements irrational views.
 
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davmat787

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Attacking someone with a deadly weapon DOES NOT mean the deadly weapon is a firearm. Mayor needs to realize this.

A legally armed woman should be able to use that option if for example someone who is twice their size is trying to rape them. If I understand the issue in the OP, the mayor thinks she should not be able to do so.

Yet another example of someone completely clueless to firearms and the myriad of laws that pertain to them and their usage trying to drastically alter the way they can be used.
 

davmat787

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Anything other than gun? Is guy guy mentally damage or just a trolling gun prohibitionist? He expects someone defending themselves from a knife wielding attacker to just give ground when they have a means to turn the table? I'm sorry but this guy is a moron and seems to typify the gun prohibition movements irrational views.

There are good reasons that in law the phrase "deadly weapon" is used rather than "firearm" in laws.

He wants to remove the equalizer that a firearm is from women it sounds like. The amount of unintended consequences this law change would have leads me to believe he is both clueless to firearms and their associated laws.
 

Zaap

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MARK GLAZE: Very often somebody will come at you. They might want to have a fistfight. They might come at you with an axe handle.
Seriously, is this some sort of dark comedy?

An axe handle? Really?

So what if there's actually an axe BLADE attached to that handle as axes tend to have?


This guy (if actually serious and not involved in some sort of dark comedy routine) is a total idiot. It's long been a tactic of biker gangs and such to carry common tools with them as they can't be arrested for just having ordinary tools... but what sort of NITWIT doesn't realize that a guy coming at you with a ball-peen hammer will freakin' KILL your ass in about 3 seconds? Or with just about any common household screwdriver?

"Oh well, those are just tools! No law against carrying your tools around with you! Why would you need self-defens against common tools?"

What a nitwit.

I'll just say it, a universal truth: Criminals are smarter than leftists. Period. So I don't trust leftists who are by far dumber than most any criminal to set laws and policies that supposedly deal with the criminal element. Libs- you're OUTSMARTED every time by them, at every turn, so don't even try it. Just sit down, and shut up when it comes to matters of crimes if you lean left.
 
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Doppel

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Retarded. No country in the world has a law supporting his view and no police force in this country would ever espouse it, either. It thoroughly ignorant.
 

PokerGuy

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hahaha, another good example of the level of stupidity permeating the anti-gun zealot group.
 

boomerang

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Fuck that. They're ignorant, insane fucktards and a danger to all mankind. They ever get this thinking anywhere near reality and I'll personally raise an army to kill them all before they destroy what's left of the world.
I sometimes think that war may actually be fought some day.
 

boochi

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Liberals are against guns because they are losing their voters to bullets.
 

piasabird

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If some person attacks you pull out your gun and keep shooting till they quit moving. However, for concealed carry your life has to be in danger. I would say if somone is going to rape you, grab you roughly or tries to punch you, then your life is in danger. If you are a woman you might not be able to reach a gun so maybe a knife or a taser or something else is also a good idea. Female soldiers in Seoul, Korea use to feel endangered and sometimes they would carry a bayonet.

Stabbing someone with a Tampon probably will not work. Maybe they should put pepper spray in a hairspray bottle. Hair brush with a knife inside. Hair pin as a deadly weapon.
 

irishScott

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So Bloomberg's hack organization said something completely stupid? What a shock.

Best thing is even (especially) the most uneducated voters have been exposed to enough violence to know how full of shit that philosophy is.
 
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nehalem256

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Fuck that. They're ignorant, insane fucktards and a danger to all mankind. They ever get this thinking anywhere near reality and I'll personally raise an army to kill them all before they destroy what's left of the world.

I would recommend equipping yourself with axes so they can't use guns to stop you :p
 

waggy

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WTF chris mathews being logical? People saying a guy with a AXE handle is NOT ARMED? and to Fight him?

is this a onion article? or did i wake up in bizaro world?
 

spacejamz

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Chris M should have asked him what if that person being attacked/assaulted was his wife/daughter, if he is okay with them not shooting the attacker if he didn't have a gun.

What a tool...
 

poofyhairguy

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I don't like the implication that "just a fistfight" is ok.

If you go around starting fistfights, the world can do without you.
 

waggy

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I don't like the implication that "just a fistfight" is ok.

If you go around starting fistfights, the world can do without you.

hwo does the other person know its just going to be a fistfight?

as someone said is a 100lb women sopposed to fight a 200lb man? I know a few badass women (black belts in hapkido and one has great in judo) but even they would have issues.
 

Juddog

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I hate the fact that everybody who is anti-gun is automatically a liberal now; I know a ton of liberals who are pro-gun.