I took a family member with an interest in dinosaurs on a trip to Montana to hunt them. We visited a number on national parks and crossed into Canada. I carried a weapon for my relative's protection since we were way off the beaten paths on numerous occasions and camping alone in some real wilderness. I didn't really care what the law was because I wasn't there to do harm. I felt that the person in my care was more important that Canada's worries about what a gun carrier might be up to. I didn't think Canada had anything to worry about and it turned out to be so. I went in and out without incident, fortunately.
Two things:
It's not the same crown.
It's theatre. The monarch has no actual power. They are figureheads.
Your point?
Do you understand how a constitutional monarchy works?
Do you understand the, admittedly odd, manner in which constitutional monarchies like Canada, New Zealand, Australia and England work?
If you did, you'd understand that what you posted is meaningless.
rudeguy
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Yea...that's the second time he has posted some random shit he found on Wiki and fought to defend it. Even though it didn't relate to the subject at hand. Me thinks he's off his meds.
Isn't the Queen the Head of State for Canada? Kind of like our Secretary of State but not?
I don't think he can be charged with a felony in NY, as a police officer (of New York) has to witness the crime. Isn't it only domestic violence can be charged if the police officer doesn't witness the crime, or am I way off base here. Please confirm or deny, thx
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Way off base. So if I rob a store and a cop doesn't see me do it, I can't be charged?
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Not very helpful rudeguy but I think I've found out what I'm looking for
Upon further investigation, its up to the state laws whether misdemeanors have to be seen by a cop to be arrested. Up until the NY SAFE act, unlicensed pistol possession was a misdemeanor, but now a felony (iirc, which hasn't been correct much lately)
http://forums.officer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-143028.html
"in florida an officer must witness the misdemeanor offense to make an arrest unless it is a misdemeanor exception"
and in my state "In VT if the crime did not happen in our presence and there is not an exception to the crime, we issue a citation to appear in court, or we forward the case to the States Attorney's Office and they will tell us to either cite them or not cite them."
Upon further investigation, its up to the state laws whether misdemeanors have to be seen by a cop to be arrested. Up until the NY SAFE act, unlicensed pistol possession was a misdemeanor, but now a felony (iirc, which hasn't been correct much lately)
http://forums.officer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-143028.html
"in florida an officer must witness the misdemeanor offense to make an arrest unless it is a misdemeanor exception"
and in my state "In VT if the crime did not happen in our presence and there is not an exception to the crime, we issue a citation to appear in court, or we forward the case to the States Attorney's Office and they will tell us to either cite them or not cite them."
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rudeguy
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but the Queen is the Head of State for Canada, right?
Head of State=foreign relations
Prime Minister=domestic stuff
Am I wrong again? I never understood the separation of duties.
Technically, in Canada:
Head of State = the Queen
Head of Government = the Prime Minister
That being said, the PM acts as Head of State in 99% of occasions. The Queen is a symbol. Technically speaking, she does have authority, but it is tightly controlled through tradition. Even then, she has a delegate in Canada that we call the Governor General who acts as The Queen's representative in all official duties. Again, tightly controlled through tradition.
Head of State = the Queen
Head of Government = the Prime Minister
That being said, the PM acts as Head of State in 99% of occasions. The Queen is a symbol. Technically speaking, she does have authority, but it is tightly controlled through tradition. Even then, she has a delegate in Canada that we call the Governor General who acts as The Queen's representative in all official duties. Again, tightly controlled through tradition.
rudeguy
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i'm not sure i would consider 1 gun "intent to smuggle". a .380 pistol would be worth a few hundred dollars. depending on where you're going in canada, that might not even cover gas.
Your comparison to a kilo of cocaine is a bit suspect. a kilo of cocaine would be worth anywhere from $20,000 to $130,000 (googled... now i have value of a kilo of cocaine in my search history >_<). there's far incentive to smuggle that. If you intend to use cocaine as the comparison, then the amount should be a few rocks at most.
Anyone with half a brain knows not to transport weapons across a border crossing. Only Terrorists do that.
In most states it is illegal to carry a loaded weapon in the passenger compartment of an automobile. That will get you arrested in most states.
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Head of State = Governor General
That position represents the Crown (Queen or King) in Canada.
Actually, your president is your Head of State. In Canada, the Queen of Canada is Head or State but in a constitutional monarchy that actually doesn't mean a lot as it's at the sufferance of parliament. i.e. If the monarch ever actually tried to 'rule' as Head of State, Canada would very quickly end the role of the monarchy (as would Britain or Australia or New Zealand in the same circumstances).
As I mentioned in another post, the monarchy is a figurehead, essentially it's theatre.
No, it's not. You seemed to be stating that Canada was subservient to the Queen and as such was also subservient to Britain. It's not. Canada is a fully independent country and neither the monarchy or Britain has any power over Canada.
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:thumbsup:
I like people that forgive my ignorance and help me figure things out.
In some ways we (along with countries like Britain and Australia) have a bit of an odd way of governing ourselves, at least as outsiders might see it. Lot's of folks get tripped up by the theatre of it all. Some things, like the monarchy and it role, just aren't what they might appear to be on the surface. Easy to get confused.
Ignorance is never a bad thing unless it's willful. Otherwise it simply means that there is something that you don't know/haven't learned about.
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That's a fucking parody site... LOL. You got onion'd.
NRA being the bitch of the gun manufacturers is a huge myth. Their power comes from their huge membership who are largely single issue voters. They also donate a lot of money. Sure, the gun manufacturers put a lot of money in too but it's the votes that the membership delivers that gives power.
Maybe Heston wanted them to operate here but I believe that the NRA is forbidden by its own rules to spend money in foreign countries.
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