Canadians deliver water to protest Detroit shutoffs

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DCal430

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I don't buy that for one second.

Every fast food place across the country, hell, ANY restaurant period, where you order "water" or "ice water", you are simply not charged. Period.

Bottled water, sure. But water in a paper cup with ice and a straw, get real.

At a restaurant sure, but not many fast food places.
 

Oldgamer

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I just donated 100.00 dollars to help with those who need help paying their water bill. If any of you want to pitch in and help you can. Here is the Detroit Water Project where you can give aid to help.
 

Oldgamer

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With everyone carrying on about how these people ought to pay their bill or to bad get your water shut off, there are several news articles talking about the many local businesses owing hundreds of thousands of dollars in delinquent water bills including a golf course and they have not had their water shut off at all.

Quote from one of the articles:

Some 15,000 residential customers have lost water service, and tens of thousands more are in danger of losing it, thanks to past due bills. But businesses owing hundreds of thousands of dollars have not been disconnected, Detroit Water and Sewerage Department records show.

According to a department list, the top 40 commercial and industrial accounts have past-due accounts totaling $9.5 million. That list includes apartment complexes, the Chrysler Group, real estate agencies, a laundromat and even a cemetery. So far, most businesses have been exempt.

Vargo Golf Co., an Oakland County-based golf course management firm, owes $478,000, while a business called Russell Industrial Associations is more than $181,000 behind.

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Oldgamer

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Then why don't people make some jobs? Has the city done anything to attract investors?

Detroit is bankrupt, that is the problem they have no money. So kinda hard to attract job makers and creators when more than half your city is a slum and in dire straights, and the infrastructure is falling apart.
 

her209

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With everyone carrying on about how these people ought to pay their bill or to bad get your water shut off, there are several news articles talking about the many local businesses owing hundreds of thousands of dollars in delinquent water bills including a golf course and they have not had their water shut off at all.

Quote from one of the articles:

Some 15,000 residential customers have lost water service, and tens of thousands more are in danger of losing it, thanks to past due bills. But businesses owing hundreds of thousands of dollars have not been disconnected, Detroit Water and Sewerage Department records show.

According to a department list, the top 40 commercial and industrial accounts have past-due accounts totaling $9.5 million. That list includes apartment complexes, the Chrysler Group, real estate agencies, a laundromat and even a cemetery. So far, most businesses have been exempt.

Vargo Golf Co., an Oakland County-based golf course management firm, owes $478,000, while a business called Russell Industrial Associations is more than $181,000 behind.

Link source

I bet if you go to their golf course, they have alcohol and cigarettes lying around.
 

Spungo

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Detroit is bankrupt, that is the problem they have no money. So kinda hard to attract job makers and creators when more than half your city is a slum and in dire straights, and the infrastructure is falling apart.
It's quite easy, actually. Just declare bankruptcy and the debt goes away. No sane person would invest in Detroit while they're bogged down in debt because there's always the risk of them jacking taxes way up in an attempt to pay the debt. They've been doing that for the past 40 years. Detroit has some of the highest property taxes in the country because they keep trying to pay the debt instead of Welching on it.

The city is just like a company. No sane person wants to buy a troubled company before bankruptcy because that means the stock goes to 0 and you lose everything. After a company declares bankruptcy and goes through restructuring, investors jump in head first because the threat of bankruptcy is no longer an issue. GM's stock went all the way to 0 when they declared bankruptcy. After bankruptcy, the stock is worth 56 billion dollars. Detroit really needs to declare bankruptcy.
 

Oldgamer

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It's quite easy, actually. Just declare bankruptcy and the debt goes away. No sane person would invest in Detroit while they're bogged down in debt because there's always the risk of them jacking taxes way up in an attempt to pay the debt. They've been doing that for the past 40 years. Detroit has some of the highest property taxes in the country because they keep trying to pay the debt instead of Welching on it.

The city is just like a company. No sane person wants to buy a troubled company before bankruptcy because that means the stock goes to 0 and you lose everything. After a company declares bankruptcy and goes through restructuring, investors jump in head first because the threat of bankruptcy is no longer an issue. GM's stock went all the way to 0 when they declared bankruptcy. After bankruptcy, the stock is worth 56 billion dollars. Detroit really needs to declare bankruptcy.


Yea here some info on what is going on with negotiations and bankruptcy for this city. http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2014/07/a_simple_guide_to_what_comes_n.html
 

Zaap

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Detroit is bankrupt, that is the problem they have no money. So kinda hard to attract job makers and creators when more than half your city is a slum and in dire straights, and the infrastructure is falling apart.
According to some dimbulbs around here, just wanting to consume creates jobs.

So the people of Detroit just don't want things badly enough I guess.
 

boomerang

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Detroit is bankrupt, that is the problem they have no money. So kinda hard to attract job makers and creators when more than half your city is a slum and in dire straights, and the infrastructure is falling apart.
It all started with Jerry Cavanagh in 1962. Every mayor since has been a Democrat. Every mayor since has promised the people of the city more and better. Every mayor needed just one more term to complete his mission of restoring prosperity. It didn't pan out because Democrat policies are unsustainable. You can't continue to provide more when you have less. Mathematics is a real bitch.

It's time for our nation without borders to send our poor to more affluent nations. Canada is the beacon of prosperity. Load up the buses and take them to a better land. Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore - all aboard the prosperity bus! Next stop - Canada!
 

Zaap

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It's time for our nation without borders to send our poor to more affluent nations. Canada is the beacon of prosperity. Load up the buses and take them to a better land. Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore - all aboard the prosperity bus! Next stop - Canada!
This is a GREAT idea! I'm all for it.

Other countries send their poor to the US and supposedly it makes everything so much better that our country can't even function without this steady stream of poor people.

So according to the same logic, we'll be doing the Canadians a big favor by shipping our poor up to them. They can do jobs for pennies on the dollar. It'll have no effect what-so-ever on their job market- anyone who complains about it or dares call it an invasion is just a racist xenophobe.

Let's get this started! American poor, this is your chance- Go North!
 

Orignal Earl

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It's time for our nation without borders to send our poor to more affluent nations. Canada is the beacon of prosperity. Load up the buses and take them to a better land. Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore - all aboard the prosperity bus! Next stop - Canada!

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless,
Tempest-tossed to me
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

We'll take that sweet statue too
 

Zaap

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Come get it! Stick it right on the border. Our poor get to ignore any immigration laws your country may think it has some right to have though- unlike all those that came to the US through Ellis Island. :p
 

SheHateMe

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Most McDonalds here do NOT have free water. There is no water on the soda machine.

Why are you lying, dude? There most certainly is water on a Soda machine...just like there is a Soda water button on the machine.
 

WelshBloke

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Are you guys really taking the piss just because your pride is injured because some "foreigners" are helping out?
 

Rakehellion

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In Detroit:
50 % of the people pay their water bill
66% pay their cable or satellite bill
72% pay their cellphone bill

So you arguing that everyone in the city of Detroit who needs to drink water to live also has a satellite TV subscription?
 

unokitty

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PC and social justice demands that certain issues be addressed.

If you look at the picture above, you'll see that the Canadians didn't distribute their thousand litres to the people of Detroit. They brought it to St. Peter’s Episcopal Church. That's the building with the cross in the picture above.

We all know that its Ramadan.

Is it politically correct to expect Muslims to go to an Episcopal Church to get their free Canadian water?

What about atheists? Why do they have to go to a church to get their free Canadian water?

Of course, since 15,000 Detroit homes have already had their water shut off, the vast majority of them won't get any free Canadian water either.


'Merica sends four billion dollars to our southern border for Central American children.

Canada sends one thousand litres of water to a Detroit church.

Where is the social justice in that?

Uno
 
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