Canada is Dying (documentary)

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Red Squirrel

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Sorry guy. If you can’t be bothered to articulate what’s in the video then you aren’t worth the time.

Why should I repeat what is already being said, and what I already been talking about over and over? Here's a shorter video that might fit your attention span, that basically talks about the same thing, coming right from the mouth of a local business owner.

 

ivwshane

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Anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

On a semi related topic: do you know what propaganda looks like? What would one need to do to be sure they aren’t simply consuming propaganda and regurgitating it?

To put it another way; how do scientists confirm their theories? Do you think it’s acceptable, when trying to understand problems or solutions, to rely on feels and gut or something more concrete?

To relate this to the topic at hand; when discussing solutions or even the problem itself, do you think it’s in everyone’s interest to fully understand the problem? More importantly, when/if government plans to address the issue do you think it should do it with a full understand of the problem or do you think it’s ok for government to rely on feels and anecdotes?
 

Red Squirrel

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Anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

It literally is. People are seeing this with their very own eyes, what more evidence do you need?! It's not like people are smashing their own windows and taking a picture this is all happening for real, what's so hard to understand?

I had the starter off my truck stolen, also had someone try to get into my garage. These are all things happening for real and everyone is suffering from it.
 

Tsinni Dave

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At least some of the photos you are seeing are absolutely being staged by attention seeking wannabe vigilantes cosplaying as concerned citizens. It's facebook, ffs.
Why didn't the starter thief take your catalytic converter? I hear they're worth money and lighter and easier to remove than a starter.
 

Fenixgoon

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At least some of the photos you are seeing are absolutely being staged by attention seeking wannabe vigilantes cosplaying as concerned citizens. It's facebook, ffs.
Why didn't the starter thief take your catalytic converter? I hear they're worth money and lighter and easier to remove than a starter.
now i'm curious about the starter thief story.

almost wonder if it were some loose bolts that backed out and the starter fell off somehow. though working on my genesis coupe, i remember that thing being in there pretty good. BUT. vibration is a hell of a thing.
 
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Red Squirrel

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At least some of the photos you are seeing are absolutely being staged by attention seeking wannabe vigilantes cosplaying as concerned citizens. It's facebook, ffs.
Why didn't the starter thief take your catalytic converter? I hear they're worth money and lighter and easier to remove than a starter.

What makes you think it's staged and why would anyone want to stage this? That doesn't even make sense. What does it give you to deny that this is actually a real problem? You can hate the facebook platform all you like but it's still real people posting on it.

I was kind of surprised they didn't go for the cats too, there's two of them. Guessing it would have been too loud. A starter can be done pretty quietly and in the dark while they're under the truck may not even see them on security camera. They did it right in my work parking lot. Anything with copper or steel, they can fill a shopping cart throughout the night as they go around stealing shit, and then by morning they walk to the recycler with it and get their fix once the drug houses open up for business. See them all the time walking with carts full of stuff.
 

Meghan54

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now i'm curious about the starter thief story.

almost wonder if it were some loose bolts that backed out and the starter fell off somehow. though working on my genesis coupe, i remember that thing being in there pretty good. BUT. vibration is a hell of a thing.
Quite true. Hate trying to replace starters. Never conveniently placed and typically tough to reach…nothing like a catalytic converter sitting quite exposed in the exhaust pipe, awaiting its 30-second snip-and-gone theft.

Much easier to steal a converter, quieter to steal, worth multiples of most starters (doubt Red has a Ferrari or the like).

Stolen starter. That’s a laugh.
 
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Fenixgoon

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What makes you think it's staged and why would anyone want to stage this? That doesn't even make sense. What does it give you to deny that this is actually a real problem? You can hate the facebook platform all you like but it's still real people posting on it.

I was kind of surprised they didn't go for the cats too, there's two of them. Guessing it would have been too loud. A starter can be done pretty quietly and in the dark while they're under the truck may not even see them on security camera. They did it right in my work parking lot. Anything with copper or steel, they can fill a shopping cart throughout the night as they go around stealing shit, and then by morning they walk to the recycler with it and get their fix once the drug houses open up for business. See them all the time walking with carts full of stuff.
So these thieves are crawling under your vehicle, pulling a starter motor completely in the dark, knowing exactly where it is on your truck, and doing so quietly without banging a single tool or limb?

Pulling one in a well lit garage is obnoxious enough.

How do you know it was stolen? I mean, was there security camera footage showing people crawling under your truck? Or did you come out to start your truck, find the starter missing, and assume that it was stolen?

I'm not saying it's impossible that it was stolen, but the way you're describing the story, I'd argue it's very long odds compared to other target components
 

sdifox

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Or he neglected to replace the engine air filter, causing non start. The shop took him for a ride for a new starter plus labour.

A cat is so much easier to steal. Just need a sawall.
 
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cytg111

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What makes you think it's staged and why would anyone want to stage this? That doesn't even make sense. What does it give you to deny that this is actually a real problem? You can hate the facebook platform all you like but it's still real people posting on it.

I was kind of surprised they didn't go for the cats too, there's two of them. Guessing it would have been too loud. A starter can be done pretty quietly and in the dark while they're under the truck may not even see them on security camera. They did it right in my work parking lot. Anything with copper or steel, they can fill a shopping cart throughout the night as they go around stealing shit, and then by morning they walk to the recycler with it and get their fix once the drug houses open up for business. See them all the time walking with carts full of stuff.
Oh for fucks sake MONEY. There is clicks and subs in scandal and conflict, absurdity and nudity. Are you new to the internet? Content creators left reality behind a long time ago for a coin.
 
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Red Squirrel

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So these thieves are crawling under your vehicle, pulling a starter motor completely in the dark, knowing exactly where it is on your truck, and doing so quietly without banging a single tool or limb?

Pulling one in a well lit garage is obnoxious enough.

How do you know it was stolen? I mean, was there security camera footage showing people crawling under your truck? Or did you come out to start your truck, find the starter missing, and assume that it was stolen?

I'm not saying it's impossible that it was stolen, but the way you're describing the story, I'd argue it's very long odds compared to other target components

Wow so you guys are seriously denying my experience? What exactly do you get by denying that crime is actually happening?

Starters don't just randomly vanish. The whole thing was gone, and wires were cut. It was fucking stolen. I'm not the only victim of this stuff either. A starter is a few bolts and wires, it can be done without making noise. A cat usually requires to sawzall the pipe. We've also had people just smash car doors in, and we have security footage to prove it. Most of these crackheads are only out to harm others they don't really care about the value of things. Someone recently had a decorative bike stolen, you can barely even ride it because it's all painted including the chain. These thieves don't care they'll take anything anyway.

Oh for fucks sake MONEY. There is clicks and subs in scandal and conflict, absurdity and nudity. Are you new to the internet? Content creators left reality behind a long time ago for a coin.

There are a million easier ways to make money than posting pictures and videos on the internet. These are all real, stop denying it. What exactly do you get out of trying to pretend that everything is ok when it clearly isn't?
 

MrSquished

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Wow so you guys are seriously denying my experience? What exactly do you get by denying that crime is actually happening?

Starters don't just randomly vanish. The whole thing was gone, and wires were cut. It was fucking stolen. I'm not the only victim of this stuff either. A starter is a few bolts and wires, it can be done without making noise. A cat usually requires to sawzall the pipe. We've also had people just smash car doors in, and we have security footage to prove it. Most of these crackheads are only out to harm others they don't really care about the value of things. Someone recently had a decorative bike stolen, you can barely even ride it because it's all painted including the chain. These thieves don't care they'll take anything anyway.



There are a million easier ways to make money than posting pictures and videos on the internet. These are all real, stop denying it. What exactly do you get out of trying to pretend that everything is ok when it clearly isn't?

Who is pretending everything is ok? We are quite aware of how messed up this world can be. Including many folks like yourself.

We crunched the data in the same 2000 SQ ft data center as Twitter runs in, and we have the results.

You're not ok. We have proof.
 

ivwshane

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Guys guys!! The fact that it happened to him is proof that it’s a National issue!



I’m guessing he’s the same kind of asshole who refuses to support policies that help others because he hasn’t been personally impacted by those issues.

If I had to guess, he’s a boomer.
 

sdifox

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Guys guys!! The fact that it happened to him is proof that it’s a National issue!



I’m guessing he’s the same kind of asshole who refuses to support policies that help others because he hasn’t been personally impacted by those issues.

If I had to guess, he’s a boomer.

Nutty Squirrel? He's not even forty yet.
 

Red Squirrel

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I'm only one of MANY that have it happened. What is so hard to understand? You people are the ones who are pathetic. What good does it do to deny that there is a drug and crime issue when there is a drug and crime issue? Putting your head in the sand will not make the problem go away.

I support policies that help others. Policies that help others be protected from crime and feel safe in their community would be a good start. We need harsher penalties for theft, and right to defend ourselves and our property. That would help way more people that enabling destructive drug use that destroys families and communities.
 

cytg111

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There are a million easier ways to make money than posting pictures and videos on the internet. These are all real, stop denying it. What exactly do you get out of trying to pretend that everything is ok when it clearly isn't?

Dude.

DUDE.

DUDE.

So not all are staged, but here is how these content creators minds work, always looking for the next thing to go viral and if they can hitch a ride early on? -> coin. Of course some of them create a specific kind of content from the outright with the intent and hope for it to viral to advance a certain message.

Social media content creators are destroying peoples brains. Fact.
 

ivwshane

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I'm only one of MANY that have it happened. What is so hard to understand? You people are the ones who are pathetic. What good does it do to deny that there is a drug and crime issue when there is a drug and crime issue? Putting your head in the sand will not make the problem go away.

I support policies that help others. Policies that help others be protected from crime and feel safe in their community would be a good start. We need harsher penalties for theft, and right to defend ourselves and our property. That would help way more people that enabling destructive drug use that destroys families and communities.

No you don’t. You support policies you think will help others but only if those policies agree with your feels. You won’t even bother to educate yourself on the topic, whether that’s to better understand the problem or to find out what’s more effective. You are the worst kind of citizen, an uneducated know it all.
 
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Meghan54

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Wow so you guys are seriously denying my experience? What exactly do you get by denying that crime is actually happening?

Starters don't just randomly vanish. The whole thing was gone, and wires were cut. It was fucking stolen. I'm not the only victim of this stuff either. A starter is a few bolts and wires, it can be done without making noise. A cat usually requires to sawzall the pipe. We've also had people just smash car doors in, and we have security footage to prove it. Most of these crackheads are only out to harm others they don't really care about the value of things. Someone recently had a decorative bike stolen, you can barely even ride it because it's all painted including the chain. These thieves don't care they'll take anything anyway.



There are a million easier ways to make money than posting pictures and videos on the internet. These are all real, stop denying it. What exactly do you get out of trying to pretend that everything is ok when it clearly isn't?
So, what you’re saying is you really have zero experience with actual drug addicts or even syringes that were previously used to actually inject a substance, right?

Only say this because no self-respecting IV drug user will dispose of a needle before the ink printing on the syringe is worn off. (I’m a retired RN who has a little experience with drug users of various stripes, incl an anesthesiologist who loved Innovar, esp just before major surgeries; and more than a few vets in various stages of self-destruction)

And those syringes were too damned clean to have been used…pro tip: when a syringe is used to inject a substance, the tip of the syringe—just where the needle slip-fits onto the syringe—never clears of the substance injected. So a used syringe should show remnants of what it injected…your syringe pics are of brand new, unused syringes.
 
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Red Squirrel

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No you don’t. You support policies you think will help others but only if those policies agree with your feels. You won’t even bother to educate yourself on the topic, whether that’s to better understand the problem or to find out what’s more effective. You are the worst kind of citizen, an uneducated know it all.

Keep thinking that. I literally see the damage it's causing and there thousands of others in my city alone who think the same way (probably more like 10's of thousands). We see the damage it's causing and want change. People like you guys who just want to keep the status quo of destruction are becoming the minority.
 

Red Squirrel

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self-respecting IV drug user

None of these people are "self respecting" lol. They are borderline zombies, they absolutely do not care about anyone, they don't even care about themselves. If they did, they wouldn't be injecting these substances into their bodies in first place. These people are far gone into a completely different world where their entire life focus is the next fix.

A lot of the clean needles are unused. When they get them for free they come in packs of 10 with some literature and other supplies. It's basically a drug kit. Sometimes they get rid of the ones they didn't use or hide them to get to them later. One of my coworkers who often walks to work sees a lot of these on his way as he passes by one of the parks where the issue is very bad.

Again, there is no sense in denying something that is literally happening. Feel free to come for a visit, just walk through Hollinger Park you'll eventually find this stuff. It's everywhere.