Can God create a stone SO heavy not even he can lift it?

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: SampSon
Gods don't make sense when you apply logic.

*Fixed

Woah now, there is only ONE god, pal.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
the flaw here is that we assume we're capable of understanding the scope of a god's capability

We better, we made him. I wonder if there is a way to turn this into a product liability suit? John isn't busy right now, hmmm.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: ironwing
Pelicans walking on hard ground are funny to watch.

Indeed.

 

[Mo0o]

Well god already exists outside the laws of physics so i'm pretty sure gravity and mass are inconsequential factors.

 

[child of wonder]

I've heard of this problem, too. The problem is that the question is not logically consistent, meaning that the premises cannot all be true simultaneously, therefore they cannot defer any valid conclusion.

"Can a being capable of anything not do something" is essentially the question which is not a valid question.

Don't mistake me as a Christian apologist, however, I'm couldn't be farther from it. However, this question isn't really a valid argument for or against anything.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
God can create a stone that is so large that weight, and therefore lifting become irrelevant. A better question is can god create a stone so large that he cannot move it at all, but then we run into the problems of movement within the universe. If he can't move the rock then can he move the universe around it in such a way the the end effect is the same? Might this have been the way he had always moved things anyway, and therefore nothing within the universe can be immovable because our conception of movement itself is utterly wrong?

Watching how people act in the grocery store, I think you're on to something profound. It is okay to block the isle with a zombie-like look on your face and two thumbs up your butt because the universe will simply flow around you in some inexplicable manner.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: ironwing
Pelicans walking on hard ground are funny to watch.

Indeed.

LOL LMAO!!!!!!

 

[Injury]

Look at it this way: If you were God, would you waste your time making a bunch of stupid rocks to try and lift them to show off... or would you make yourself a bunch of chicks and work on a few more sons? Thus, the answer is "Who cares? Why don't you worry about more important things."

 

[ColdFusion718]

God cannot contradict himself so just use that and you will have your answer.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
God can create a stone that is so large that weight, and therefore lifting become irrelevant. A better question is can god create a stone so large that he cannot move it at all, but then we run into the problems of movement within the universe. If he can't move the rock then can he move the universe around it in such a way the the end effect is the same? Might this have been the way he had always moved things anyway, and therefore nothing within the universe can be immovable because our conception of movement itself is utterly wrong?

Watching how people act in the grocery store, I think you're on to something profound. It is okay to block the isle with a zombie-like look on your face and two thumbs up your butt because the universe will simply flow around you in some inexplicable manner.

Of all theological questions this is the one that cannot be theorized. If there is a God let his first revelation be the way to move the fatties from the center of the canned meat aisle. Amen.

 

[Schfifty Five]

God cannot be understood on our level of thinking. Like Child of Wonder mentioned, the question itself if flawed b/c we cannot begin to understand the omnipotence of God (that is if you actually do believe in God).

But a way of answering this would be to ask another question. How does creating a stone so heavy that He cannot lift glorify Himself? Remember, everything God does in one way or another glorifies him. If that's true, then the original question does not fall into the scope of God.

But like I said, we can't understand God fully so the question isn't valid.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

Can an all powerful God commit suicide?

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
$bash: God
"God" not found

OMG I want that on a t-shirt!

 

[Minjin]

God cannot do anything because the act of doing presupposes opposition.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: TheSiege
I read it in a book. Its kind of a conundrum. God can create anything, so can't he create a stone that it is too heavy for even Him? Well if He does then He is limited by his own creation, which would go against Him being omnipotent. So can He not create a stone too heavy for Him? Then He would be limited again.

It makes my head hurt.

Maybe if you shaved some of that fur off your face your head wouldn't hurt.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: Minjin
God cannot do anything because the act of doing presupposes opposition.

Ah but God is the opposition and the doing. All that god does is done unto himself. All that is done and all that is done upon is God. ~Erroneous 1:1

 

[Green Man]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: SampSon
Gods don't make sense when you apply logic.

*Fixed

Woah now, there is only ONE god, pal.

LOL, since when?

 

[MovingTarget]

This question presumes that such physical limitations are indeed relevant to God, that he is constrained by physics itself. Applying one to the other is like apples and oranges. The question of God is not one that can/should be answered by science and vice-versa.

BTW... from bash.org:
DHS : Could god make a game so powerful, that even his computer couldn't run it at full settings?
PoorLeno : It's called Crysis.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
$bash: God
"God" not found

my inner geek lold at that.

 

[TwiceOver]

Sure, I mean he is fucking GOD after all. I think the better question is "Can The Siege Make a post so sucky that none of ATOT will post to it". Still, the answer is no, ATOT will post to anything.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Look, I'm about as atheistic as they come, but even I don't think that the "rock so heavy God can't lift it" argument is anything more than sophomoric, pseudo-intellectual philo-babble.

 

[funkymatt]

Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot he, himself could not eat it?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: funkymatt
Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot he, himself could not eat it?

Jesus doesn't eat burritos fool.

 

[Imaginer]

IDDQD?

A true god has no limits. Therefore what the OP's title states is a contradiction. We only place such limits because we ourselves do not fully grasp the concepts of being omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, benevolent, impassible, etc.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: funkymatt
Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot he, himself could not eat it?

Jesus doesn't eat burritos fool.

Jesus was consuming burritos before mankind was conceived. He farted galaxies and finally shit the universe. Science can't disprove it.