Originally posted by: swbsam
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: moshquerade
ffs, enough of these kinda threads. they are men. they have a penis just like you do. nuff said.
well no offense to any, but seriously... some I'd barely call men, other than the physical parts mind you.
that
voice, certain style of walking, the drama, hell some with make up. That ain't right by any stretch. Sorry. It's not the sexual preference either, it's that creepy life style. There's being a true metrosexual type person, but taking it past that line scares me.
But the gays or bi's that are built like beasts, have the typical male interests (doesn't have to be macho. i've known muscular friends, and while I am not quite the level of muscular but same category, who all enjoy tech and computers. all the same).
What I'm saying by that, I don't care what someone chooses to want to prefer in bed (on an animal level, I do deeply care, but not on a social level, and hell... some strange natural form of population control in large primate populations? whatever
), but don't flaunt it in my face and deeply disturb many. be cool and nonchalant about it. And hell... I don't get the idea of wanting to be gay, and going after a gay guy that's more feminine that most women. Baffling.
The question is why does it bother you, their flaunting it? Remember, gays have been in the closet for centuries - burned alive in some cultures, discriminated against since the beginning of time. Now the discussion is starting for equality and we, as a society, are beginning to accept them. While it may annoy you, why not just let them have their sissy coming out party?
Honestly, I'm as pro-gay as can be but cringe whenever I see guys make out. But I bet people cringe when they watch me and my wife make out - i'm a fat, hairy indian dude after all.. My reaction is instinctual, but I have no right to tell them not to make out .. How about you just let gays be, unless they grab your cock?
Well... I treat it just like that. They are free to be as sissy as they want to. I don't care. It disturbs me, but I won't get in their face about it. People do many things they have a right to do, that I find disturbing, but I just keep on walking or whatever. That's what freedom is, and they need to just get used to it. Not a single topic out there in the history of man, has EVER had every single person unified in a certain direction. They can do what they please, and yes some who are upset will cross the line in their reaction, but if it comes to the point of the issue simply offending people, but nothing happens - they should consider that a victory... that's as much as the gays will get. Because that's how much any pure freedom gets. Gun owners are universally loved around the country, people who abuse the first amendment are praised by everyone, it's a simple fact, especially in a country like ours where cultures vary greatly.
However, my original point: I don't care if a gay guy wants to flaunt he's gay. Well, I don't care period what they do. However, I am more accepting of a gay guy who acts like every other guy. And yes, every other guy acts differently, hell... some straight men act quite feminine. But that's perfectly acceptable to me in modern society, and if gays acted like everyone else, they'd blend right in. Maybe, yes, the extremely feminine gays go that route to stand out to be appealing to equally flamboyant gays, I dunno. But I do know that it just rattles me inside. I don't get it, because I guarantee these people didn't act like that until they made some personal decision to change into that style. And I don't get it.
But ultimately, why do I find it so deeply disturbing? I don't like seeing a male of our species act more feminine than almost every female I've ever known, and I don't know too many tom boys, and I sure as hell don't date the tom boys.
That simple issue is what hits so hard with me, because it confuses me in every way possible. I don't understand why a male would do that.
But I'm less socially minded and more animal minded. My society aspect makes me reason that, whatever... this is here to stay, they have a right to do what they want (we're not going to get into marriage here, hell I don't quite favor marriage in general, except for the government aspect which is beneficial, i.e. taxation), and I'm here to ensure citizens get to retain those rights, as rights are exclusive to groups, they are equal to all citizens.
But on my animal side, and I've said this before... I just don't get it. It's backwards, does nothing for the species, and I just don't understand that drive one bit. I know in the animal kingdom, bisexuality has been seen, and a few times where males are exclusively sticking to other males, but bisexuality is more common than that - and it's reasonable. Males are horny, females aren't around, well... gotta do something. That, and it's another way to express dominance/submissiveness in groups.
However, that's all I got to say for the animal nature part. That kind of reasoning isn't too popular in modern society these days, and leads to things like eugenics - which had popular support even here, until the Nazi's turned that one upside down. In theory its great, but in practice, you can't radically change it. To have been acceptable it would have to occurred from the very beginning. And we're so mixed up these days as a species, there is no changing it period. Everyone is carrying genetic material for some disorder, some problem, sometimes just as a carrier and not expressed. And I gotta cut this off eventually or I'm going to write another novel.... too late.
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